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USA2112 
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 Posted: July 31 2005 at 20:01 |
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F**K YES! They are AMAZING!!! Nice Post!!!!!
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DavidInsabella
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 20:16 |
Jesus, Radiohead is more progressive than Death.
I concider Death regressive for taking part in making screams and nonesence a valid form of music.
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Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be.
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USA2112
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:23 |
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Radiohead sucks
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Posted: July 31 2005 at 21:45 |
"death" is allready here  
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Drew
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 00:43 |
 sstarless wrote:
Death is defined as progressive death metal, there is no question about this, so of course it should be here. |
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:13 |
Drew wrote:
sstarless wrote:
Death is defined as progressive death metal, there is no question about this, so of course it should be here. |
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You know,since this topic started I have dug out my Death cd's and have been listening to Human,Symbolic and Sound of Perseverance and honestly,in light of Opeth and Meshuggah's inclusion,they should be on here.
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Cygnus
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:19 |
Definetly!!! Sound of Perseverance is a masterpiece and so is Symbolic.
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Drew
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 01:54 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
Drew wrote:
sstarless wrote:
Death is defined as progressive death metal, there is no question about this, so of course it should be here. |
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You know,since this topic started I have dug out my Death cd's and have been listening to Human,Symbolic and Sound of Perseverance and honestly,in light of Opeth and Meshuggah's inclusion,they should be on here.
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I LOVE YOU BROTHER
btw- your picture rules- NP is my fav drummer- ever
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 03:17 |
Drew wrote:
TheProgtologist wrote:
Drew wrote:
sstarless wrote:
Death is defined as progressive death metal, there is no question about this, so of course it should be here. |
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You know,since this topic started I have dug out my Death cd's and have been listening to Human,Symbolic and Sound of Perseverance and honestly,in light of Opeth and Meshuggah's inclusion,they should be on here.
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I LOVE YOU BROTHER
btw- your picture rules- NP is my fav drummer- ever
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ty drew.I have been drumming since age 6 and Peart is the main man in my "holy trinity" of favorite drummers-Peart,Portnoy and Carey.
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Humanizzimo
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 13:13 |
f**k Radiohead, Up Death! 
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 14:36 |
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How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez.........
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 15:07 |
King of Loss wrote:
How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... |
Listen to them - they're quite complex. Too complex to be reduced to Death Metal, a bit like Cynic.
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Drew
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 15:27 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... |
Listen to them - they're quite complex. Too complex to be reduced to Death Metal, a bit like Cynic.
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Exactly!!!!
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philippe
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 16:18 |
and together we summon the devil!!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 01 2005 at 16:20 |
philippe wrote:
and together we summon the devil!! |
To do that we simply have to add more metal bands until we have 666 of them in the archives.
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Bryan
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 03:00 |
DavidInsabella wrote:
Jesus, Radiohead is more progressive than Death.
I concider Death regressive for taking part in making screams and nonesence a valid form of music.
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King of Loss wrote:
How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in
the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... |
philippe wrote:
and together we summon the devil!! |
Have any of you actually heard any of Death's albums from Human
onwards, or are you just saying this based on their reputation as the
founders of death metal? I mean I'd expect this kind of ignornace
towards metal from Philippe, but David and King both seem like pretty
intelligent guys, and I really hate to see such naive comments from
intelligent people.
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Coya
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Joined: July 05 2005
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:04 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... |
Listen to them - they're quite complex. Too complex to be reduced to Death Metal, a bit like Cynic.
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Death Metal does not reduce anyone. Prog is not a quality, it is a style, and if a band plays mainly death metal with prog influences, then it's as simple as that, death metal with prog influences. Everyone can make complex music without being prog. F***ing superiority complexes!!
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 07:15 |
Coya wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
How can you call a band that is hailed mostly in the DEATH METAL SCENE as Progressive Metal? Geez......... |
Listen to them - they're quite complex. Too complex to be reduced to Death Metal, a bit like Cynic.
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Death Metal does not reduce anyone. Prog is not a quality, it is a style, and if a band plays mainly death metal with prog influences, then it's as simple as that, death metal with prog influences. Everyone can make complex music without being prog. F***ing superiority complexes!!
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I didn't mean to bash Death Metal. But the general Death Metal style is not about complexity, more about brutal thrashing and growling. Every complex Death Metal band is described with an adjective like complex or progressive.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 08:42 |
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Human,Symbiotic and Sound of Perseverance are pretty complex albums and not your typical death metal,even though Death and in particular Chuck Shuldiner are the fathers of the genre.By the time Human came out Death was going beyond death metal and taking it in another direction.And with Control Denied Shuldiner was definitely in progressive death metal territory.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Joined: April 29 2005
Location: Poland
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Posted: August 02 2005 at 09:15 |
Ow God, People watch out, this looks lika a Flamewar to me. Some harsh languege commin up. No one likes a pooty-mouth, so watch ye languege, young men...
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