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Sometimes the best albums take a while to sink in.

I actually hated Relayer by Yes at first. I thought it was a pointless record, a cacophony. Now I think it's great - not their best - but great nonetheless.

Octopus by Gentle Giant, as already mentioned here, is a very intricate and well crafted album. When I first heard I thought it was awful, and conjured up images of Morris dancers, and men in tights, blowing horns ...

As a contrast Images & Words by Dream Theater was an instant hit with me. I thought it was excellent. Now I cant be bothered with it at all.

Titan wrote: Blacksword wrote: Sometimes the best albums take a while to sink in. I actually hated Relayer by Yes at first. I thought it was a pointless record, a cacophony. Now I think it's great - not their best - but great nonetheless. Octopus by Gentle Giant, as already mentioned here, is a very intricate and well crafted album. When I first heard I thought it was awful, and conjured up images of Morris dancers, and men in tights, blowing horns ... As a contrast Images & Words by Dream Theater was an instant hit with me. I thought it was excellent. Now I cant be bothered with it at all. Welcome to the club Relayer, we have 4 members already :) Octopus has been mentioned 2 or even 3x tho

Octopus is an excellent example though, of a slow grower. I thought it deserved another mention..

I think these 'slow grower' albums are always the best. There is more subtlety to them, more to discover. An album thats grabs you immediately is often 'all mouth and no trousers' and I'm starting to feel that Dream Theater fall into that category, for me anyway.

Progzilla wrote: Awake by dream theater is probably the album I've had to listen to the most in order for it to be really great. I hated it when it came out, I had so high expectations, and it sounded pretty dull. Then it gradually got better, but very slowly. It wasn't until I knew ALL the tracks in my head that the album opened, and the harvest was ready to reap.

And I thought I was the only one who had felt this way about "Awake"... I was extremely enthusiastic after listening to "Images and Words" and wanted to get more of the same thing. "Awake" proved so very different and completely inaccessible at first that I wanted to throw it out of the window. Luckily I gave it another listen, and another... and voila, I love it as much as I do "I&W". 

Funnily enough, the same thing happened to me with "Falling into Infinity", only that in this case I thought at first listen that it sounded too accessible and banal. Fortunately repeated listens proved that I had been wrong again, it is a very good album.   

Manunkind wrote: Progzilla wrote: Awake by dream theater is probably the album I've had to listen to the most in order for it to be really great. I hated it when it came out, I had so high expectations, and it sounded pretty dull. Then it gradually got better, but very slowly. It wasn't until I knew ALL the tracks in my head that the album opened, and the harvest was ready to reap. And I thought I was the only one who had felt this way about "Awake"... I was extremely enthusiastic after listening to "Images and Words" and wanted to get more of the same thing. "Awake" proved so very different and completely inaccessible at first that I wanted to throw it out of the window. Luckily I gave it another listen, and another... and voila, I love it as much as I do "I&W".  Funnily enough, the same thing happened to me with "Falling into Infinity", only that in this case I thought at first listen that it sounded too accessible and banal. Fortunately repeated listens proved that I had been wrong again, it is a very good album.

I had the same thing about FII, although it was more like I admitted to myself several years afterwards that I do infact like it.

What about the following DT albums? With ToT for example, I first thought it might be a good album, because it sounded ok at first listen. But after lots of listens, it just got worse! The same thing with 6doit first cd (6doit track on cd 2 is really good though). Let's see what happens with octavarium...

Progzilla wrote: Manunkind wrote: Progzilla wrote: Awake by dream theater is probably the album I've had to listen to the most in order for it to be really great. I hated it when it came out, I had so high expectations, and it sounded pretty dull. Then it gradually got better, but very slowly. It wasn't until I knew ALL the tracks in my head that the album opened, and the harvest was ready to reap. And I thought I was the only one who had felt this way about "Awake"... I was extremely enthusiastic after listening to "Images and Words" and wanted to get more of the same thing. "Awake" proved so very different and completely inaccessible at first that I wanted to throw it out of the window. Luckily I gave it another listen, and another... and voila, I love it as much as I do "I&W".  Funnily enough, the same thing happened to me with "Falling into Infinity", only that in this case I thought at first listen that it sounded too accessible and banal. Fortunately repeated listens proved that I had been wrong again, it is a very good album.    I had the same thing about FII, although it was more like I admitted to myself several years afterwards that I do infact like it. What about the following DT albums? With ToT for example, I first thought it might be a good album, because it sounded ok at first listen. But after lots of listens, it just got worse! The same thing with 6doit first cd (6doit track on cd 2 is really good though). Let's see what happens with octavarium...

Well, "SfaM", for example, despite all the hype, has IMO always been an album that deserves 2.5, 3 stars at best, no change here.

I really liked "ACoS" from the very first listen and it only gets better with each listen, a truly inspiring piece of music. 

I seem to be one of the very few people here who absolutely love both sides of "6DoIT" and "ToT". I really can't see any change occuring here, either.

"Octavarium" has so far been a disappointment for me, I do need some more time with it, but I'm fairly certain it's going to wind up as my least fav DT album.

I haven't heard "When Day and Dream Unite".

  

Progzilla wrote: Manunkind wrote: Progzilla wrote: Manunkind wrote: Progzilla wrote: Awake by dream theater is probably the album I've had to listen to the most in order for it to be really great. I hated it when it came out, I had so high expectations, and it sounded pretty dull. Then it gradually got better, but very slowly. It wasn't until I knew ALL the tracks in my head that the album opened, and the harvest was ready to reap. And I thought I was the only one who had felt this way about "Awake"... I was extremely enthusiastic after listening to "Images and Words" and wanted to get more of the same thing. "Awake" proved so very different and completely inaccessible at first that I wanted to throw it out of the window. Luckily I gave it another listen, and another... and voila, I love it as much as I do "I&W".  Funnily enough, the same thing happened to me with "Falling into Infinity", only that in this case I thought at first listen that it sounded too accessible and banal. Fortunately repeated listens proved that I had been wrong again, it is a very good album.    I had the same thing about FII, although it was more like I admitted to myself several years afterwards that I do infact like it. What about the following DT albums? With ToT for example, I first thought it might be a good album, because it sounded ok at first listen. But after lots of listens, it just got worse! The same thing with 6doit first cd (6doit track on cd 2 is really good though). Let's see what happens with octavarium... Well, "SfaM", for example, despite all the hype, has IMO always been an album that deserves 2.5, 3 stars at best, no change here. I really liked "ACoS" from the very first listen and it only gets better with each listen, a truly inspiring piece of music.  I seem to be one of the very few people here who absolutely love both sides of "6DoIT" and "ToT". I really can't see any change occuring here, either. "Octavarium" has so far been a disappointment for me, I do need some more time with it, but I'm fairly certain it's going to wind up as my least fav DT album. I haven't heard "When Day and Dream Unite". Interesting! I don't think SFAM is nearly as good as everybody seems to think (it might be that nowadays it is the DT album that most DT fans have heard first!)  ACOS was great from the beginning, agree with you there. If you can stand poor production and a hilarious singer, WDADU is a real gem. But it needs ALOT of listens.

From the bits and pieces of "WDaDU" I managed to hear it does seem to be a gem. And the term 'poor production' is almost meaningless to me.

Let´s don´t turn it in another dt poll shall we?

I used to hate Vapor Trails but after some listenings as a background music I came to love it. Very inteligent album.

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Trouserpress wrote: Blacksword wrote: Titan wrote: Blacksword wrote: Sometimes the best albums take a while to sink in. I actually hated Relayer by Yes at first. I thought it was a pointless record, a cacophony. Now I think it's great - not their best - but great nonetheless. Octopus by Gentle Giant, as already mentioned here, is a very intricate and well crafted album. When I first heard I thought it was awful, and conjured up images of Morris dancers, and men in tights, blowing horns ... As a contrast Images & Words by Dream Theater was an instant hit with me. I thought it was excellent. Now I cant be bothered with it at all. Welcome to the club Relayer, we have 4 members already :) Octopus has been mentioned 2 or even 3x tho   Octopus is an excellent example though, of a slow grower. I thought it deserved another mention.. Am I really the only person to love Octopus instantly?

I confess I haven't yet given GG a fair shot yet apart from the mp3's on this site, but out of those, the one from Octopus is for me the least enjoyable for the first few listens (sorry mr. press...).  However, it definitely does sound to me like if I had the whole album and gave it a few more tries I would love it for eternity. 

lynton samuel wrote: i had a hard time getting into gentle giant and VdGG, but now they are among my alltime favourites!

I agree. I hated Still Life when I first bought it, but now I'm older and wiser (?) I can really appreciate it. This is the essence of most prog music, it's often takes repeated listening to get into. IMO that makes it last longer, some songs are easy to like on the first listening, then you get bored with them later on.