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presdoug
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 16:47 |
Helmut Koellen-You Won't See Me
Not many people know it even exists, and it is not listed anywhere in PA, except in my posts about it! Since it's initial release on lp in Germany in October of 1977, it has never been re-issued on any format, and is hard as sin to find.
It happens to be my favorite album.
Edited by presdoug - June 22 2012 at 19:38
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 17:39 |
I guess Lizard by King Crimson. Yes, I know that a lot of people on this site like this album, but a lot of web reviewers (including Mark Prindle, John McFerrin, George Starostin, Evan Lublinski) consider it terrible. In fact, I bought it just because they said it was bad, and after the last chords of "Big Top" faded out, I was left dumbfounded, asking myself "Am I listening to the same record that they were describing?"
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 17:52 |
The ELPowell album is rather unjustly neglected and I happen to really like ELP's Black Moon.
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 18:06 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
The ELPowell album is rather unjustly neglected and I happen to really like ELP's Black Moon.
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I loved ELPowell. The Score, The Miracle, Touch and Go and their interpretation of Mars were all great. For me, I'd have to say (wearing my bullet proof vest of course) Abacab. I don't think it's half as bad as its critics say it is. I think the title track, Me and Sarah Jane, Dodo/Lurker are all great Genesis songs, and even the poppier stuff on it is fairly quality pop. Another one that I think is really underrated is 90125.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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raeloneq
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:11 |
I really like Frank Zappa's Sleep Dirt.
But, then again, Zappa is underrated anyways.
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crimson87
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 19:14 |
Probably both records by Watchtower , I mean this is the band that invented progressive metal and have few reviews.
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infocat
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 22:47 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Youth Pictures Of Florence Henderson - Unnoticeable In A Tiny Town, Invisible In The City Maps And Atlases - Perch Patchwork Charts And Maps - Dead Horse Hella - There's No 666 In Outer Space TesseracT - One
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Off topic, but your avatar is awesome. |
But is it underrated?
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-- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 23:04 |
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
Fox On The Rocks wrote:
Youth Pictures Of Florence Henderson - Unnoticeable In A Tiny Town, Invisible In The City Maps And Atlases - Perch Patchwork Charts And Maps - Dead Horse Hella - There's No 666 In Outer Space TesseracT - One
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Off topic, but your avatar is awesome. |
Thanks! Toby Driver is an inspiration to me - I love every musical project that guy touches.
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Ambient Hurricanes
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 23:56 |
I'm a huge motW fan, and I'm working on Kayo Dot's discography. I have yet to hear any of his other projects, but I'm planning to check them out soon so that I can become a full-fledged Toby fanboy .
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I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 00:30 |
Cthulhu42 wrote:
silverpot wrote:
If we're talking about PA rankings only - - Abbey Road! It should be more appreciated around here. It's a masterpiece, ahead of ot's time.
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An average rating of around 4.5 isn't high enough?
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Maybe it was meant as a joke.
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Sagichim
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 00:45 |
I can add PFM's Jet Lag.
Yes it's not majestic like Per Un Amico but it's still a great album, with high quality music.
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richardh
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 01:51 |
In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:01 |
richardh wrote:
In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though. |
Agree with pretty much everything here but would insist that Lake be held to account for a frankly wretched 20 minutes of anyone's time (apart from Hallowed Be Thy Name) Greg really let the side down here. I do like Carl's portion yet could never get overly enthusiastic about the big band arrangement of Tank. But yeah, Works Vol 1 has stood the test of time and just suffers 'false memory syndrome' amongst it's most virulent detractors. Like Topographic Oceans, it's become one of Prog's 'standard issue' scapegoats.
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Ancient Tree
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 02:57 |
wish bone ash albums (they are all underrated)
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crimson87
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 06:27 |
richardh wrote:
In PA terms the one that rankles with me is ELP - Works Volume One. Only scrapes just above two stars. I have a theory that this is the ELP album that most like to take out their pent up anger on about ELP's 'bombastic' approach in general. However it is far from their most bombastic album so there is some irony in this.
Pirates is just about the most perfect symphionic prog track I've ever heard. Fanfare For The Common Man is totally unique. OK there is a load of solo music but mostly its of a very high standard. Keith Emerson's piano concerto is much praised and been performed by orchestras around the world. The Lake and Sinfield songs may not be too everyone's taste I understand but they are still interesting.Palmer's side features some strong jazz rock fusion stuff and a mighty version of Tank.
Overall it should be rating at least 3 stars imho. ELP's crash and burn really happened after this although the negative publicity springing from the orchestral tour probably precipated it. The album was still decent though. |
I totally agree with what you stated. I gave Works vol 1 a 4 stars review. Moreover , trimmed down to a 50 minute record comprised of :Keith's side - ELP side and a song from Carl's and Greg's side it would be a 5 star one. But then , it's ELP so you gotta take into account all the flak the band recieves.
Another , album that is vastly underrated in my opinion is St Anger from Metallica. It's great fun and a return to metal since the dreadful 90's. This record has a 1.63 rating (including my 4 stars review as a prog reviewer)
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aerosolgrey
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 01:03 |
Perhaps Yes, Tormato Gentle Giant, The Missing Piece Emerson, Lake and Powell. same Blue Shift', Not the Future I OrderedTwin Age, Lialim High Jan Akkerman and Thijs Van Leer, Focus
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presdoug
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:27 |
^I love The Missing Piece
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geneyesontle
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:49 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
I guess Lizard by King Crimson. Yes, I know that a lot of people on this site like this album, but a lot of web reviewers (including Mark Prindle, John McFerrin, George Starostin, Evan Lublinski) consider it terrible. In fact, I bought it just because they said it was bad, and after the last chords of "Big Top" faded out, I was left dumbfounded, asking myself "Am I listening to the same record that they were describing?"
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Agree, very underrated album
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
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Horizons
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 16:56 |
For sure not the most underrated album, but i enjoy Camel's Breathless more than Rain Dances or The Snow Goose.
Echoes is one of their best songs ever, plus the album is riddled with catchy melodies and vocal lines.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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The_Jester
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 19:58 |
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I knew it was sarcasm but I forgot the emoticon... Damn life...
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