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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:13
I don't really like black metal much at all, but I like the avant stuff much more than other metals...can't really vote for it though, since I don't like black metal. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:20
My favourites being Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Indukti, Ulver, Deathspell Omega, Opeth, Maudlin Of The Well, Drudkh, Enslaved, Fen, East Of The Wall, BTBAM, Unexpect, Blotted Science, Animals As Leaders, Alchemist, In Lingua Mortua etc. I think I can easily vote Black/Avant just over Tech/Extreme, even if I was initially taken aback by the lack of Post/Exp. and wanted not to vote. I don't like how Prog-Metal leads with such a comfortable margin.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:23
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

My favourites being Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Ulver, Deathspell Omega, Opeth, Maudlin Of The Well, Drudkh, Enslaved, Fen, East Of The Wall, BTBAM, Unexpect, Blotted Science, Animals As Leaders, Alchemist, In Lingua Mortua etc. I think I can easily vote Black/Avant just over Tech/Extreme, even if I was initially taken aback by the lack of Post/Exp. and wanted not to vote. I don't like how Prog-Metal leads with such a comfortable margin.


I'd say Prog Metal is the most obvious winner on a Prog forum Smile
The others are far more progressive though Big smile

EDIT: hej, you like Alchemist Cool


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:27
^ It was one of Kevin's recs.

A couple of my prog-metal favourites: Parallaxe and MCM. Oh and Psychotic Waltz (but I don't know them very well).

Oh crap, I forgot Indukti in the previous post, what the hell!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:59
i used to like Drudkh when they had only 2 albums, also Emporer, Death, and a bunch of those types of bands, but i fell out of that style long ago. Opeth is the only band like that I can listen to at all these days

LTE is prog metal, they're just instrumental, and they just have a lot of other influences in the music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:05
I like this kind of heavy metal, from Legend's 1979 album



And, though not in PA, I consider it progressive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:18

^ I'm not well versed in pre-Metal Tongue, but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.
They probably didn't make it yet as they are considered a NWOBHM band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:24
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ It was one of Kevin's recs.

A couple of my prog-metal favourites: Parallaxe and MCM. Oh and Psychotic Waltz (but I don't know them very well).

Oh crap, I forgot Indukti in the previous post, what the hell!


My most exciting recent discovery is Yakuza. Have the last 3 albums and they are all killer. Samsara is even a masterpiece IMO.
Dunno which of the 4 genres they fit in though. Post-Neurosis Metal I call it. Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:25
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


^ I'm not well versed in pre-classic heavy Metal Tongue, but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.



Agreed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:41
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


^ I'm not well versed in pre-Metal Tongue, but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.
They probably didn't make it yet as they are considered a NWOBHM band.


I don't think the whole album is up to that, and I know that under PA's system it would be considered for Heavy Prog, or possibly related, but I'm not thinking of proposing it (I just wanted to highlight the track as an example of music I really like). But it is not pre-metal, unless metal has been seperated from heavy metal, or classic metal (I remember at metal music archives when I suggested AC/DC being told that I don't know metal.  Well, Back in Black was commonly considered heavy metal at the time, I remember that first-hand, but there's been a lot of revisionism). 

Anyway, it's a very rare album, actually, and some say a very early Viking metal release.  I actually think it sounds  rather dated for 1979.

Incidentally, someone might be able to recommend some music to me: What i really like is psych-cosmic influenced music.  What I think I'd really like is Kosmische metal fusion, or Metal-Electronic fusion -- Kraut metal that perhaps contrasts brutality with a Zeit like aesthetic.

I'd like to make a New Age Viking Metal album: Listening to it would be like doing yoga in a meditation garden while a hairy viking sets fire to the garden then slaughters you with his battleaxe. Tranquility meets brutality.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:42
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:



LTE is prog metal, they're just instrumental, and they just have a lot of other influences in the music

Well as I said, to me they aren't. No point in discussing it further though. We'll have to just disagree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:47
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

^ It was one of Kevin's recs.

A couple of my prog-metal favourites: Parallaxe and MCM. Oh and Psychotic Waltz (but I don't know them very well).

Oh crap, I forgot Indukti in the previous post, what the hell!


My most exciting recent discovery is Yakuza. Have the last 3 albums and they are all killer. Samsara is even a masterpiece IMO.
Dunno which of the 4 genres they fit in though. Post-Neurosis Metal I call it. Smile


I just call the Experimental and be done with it. And I find OF Seismic Consequence to be their best.
Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:08
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


^ I'm not well versed in pre-Metal Tongue, but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.
They probably didn't make it yet as they are considered a NWOBHM band.


I don't think the whole album is up to that, and I know that under PA's system it would be considered for Heavy Prog, or possibly related, but I'm not thinking of proposing it (I just wanted to highlight the track as an example of music I really like). But it is not pre-metal, unless metal has been seperated from heavy metal, or classic metal (I remember at metal music archives when I suggested AC/DC being told that I don't know metal.  Well, Back in Black was commonly considered heavy metal at the time, I remember that first-hand, but there's been a lot of revisionism). 

Anyway, it's a very rare album, actually, and some say a very early Viking metal release.  I actually think it sounds  rather dated for 1979.

Incidentally, someone might be able to recommend some music to me: What i really like is psych-cosmic influenced music.  What I think I'd really like is Kosmische metal fusion, or Metal-Electronic fusion -- Kraut metal that perhaps contrasts brutality with a Zeit like aesthetic.

I'd like to make a New Age Viking Metal album: Listening to it would be like doing yoga in a meditation garden while a hairy viking sets fire to the garden then slaughters you with his battleaxe. Tranquility meets brutality.


Oh I was teasing a bit with the "pre-Metal" thing, though it sounds rather early 70's then end 70's.
Interesting request, that Kosmische metal thing, but I'm not sure it exist. Kraut/Electronic and Metal are kind of polar opposites...
Voivod went into a spacey direction, also Alchemist but they are very brutal. Can't think of much else right now.
I'll keep my eyes open.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:24
Greg, do you know the band 35007? They're in Space Rock here, but they're very metal.



As cosmic as possible IMO. Sounds like Popol Vuh doing metal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:26
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:



LTE is prog metal, they're just instrumental, and they just have a lot of other influences in the music

Well as I said, to me they aren't. No point in discussing it further though. We'll have to just disagree.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:31
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


^ I'm not well versed in pre-Metal Tongue, but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.
They probably didn't make it yet as they are considered a NWOBHM band.


I don't think the whole album is up to that, and I know that under PA's system it would be considered for Heavy Prog, or possibly related, but I'm not thinking of proposing it (I just wanted to highlight the track as an example of music I really like). But it is not pre-metal, unless metal has been seperated from heavy metal, or classic metal (I remember at metal music archives when I suggested AC/DC being told that I don't know metal.  Well, Back in Black was commonly considered heavy metal at the time, I remember that first-hand, but there's been a lot of revisionism). 

Anyway, it's a very rare album, actually, and some say a very early Viking metal release.  I actually think it sounds  rather dated for 1979.

Incidentally, someone might be able to recommend some music to me: What i really like is psych-cosmic influenced music.  What I think I'd really like is Kosmische metal fusion, or Metal-Electronic fusion -- Kraut metal that perhaps contrasts brutality with a Zeit like aesthetic.

I'd like to make a New Age Viking Metal album: Listening to it would be like doing yoga in a meditation garden while a hairy viking sets fire to the garden then slaughters you with his battleaxe. Tranquility meets brutality.


Oh I was teasing a bit with the "pre-Metal" thing, though it sounds rather early 70's then end 70's.
Interesting request, that Kosmische metal thing, but I'm not sure it exist. Kraut/Electronic and Metal are kind of polar opposites...
Voivod went into a spacey direction, also Alchemist but they are very brutal. Can't think of much else right now.
I'll keep my eyes open.



It does sound early 70's -- a Black Sabbath etc influence.

I knew you were teasing a bit -- there is no definite dividing line between hard rock and heavy metal.  I like Voivod.  Will look for Alchemist.  It was the first prog metal band I liked.  They are kind of polar opposites, but then I like contrast in music, and that could make for some extreme contrast.  By they way, I hear about Krautmetal, but what I've heard of it just sounds like pretty typical mainstreamish metal from Germany and does not seem influenced by the German schools of Krautrock.

Another type of music I like is Jazz-metal Fusion.  Of the options, I like experimental and ambient metal the most.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:33
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Greg, do you know the band 35007? They're in Space Rock here, but they're very metal.



As cosmic as possible IMO. Sounds like Popol Vuh doing metal.


I didn't.  Sounds great! Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:34
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Greg, do you know the band 35007? They're in Space Rock here, but they're very metal.

As cosmic as possible IMO. Sounds like Popol Vuh doing metal.


Also, stoner psych often sounds like in between krautrock and metal. Please allow me to plug-in one of my Romanian bands, The :Egocentrics, as an example:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:39
Also, Greg, I hope I'm only being redundant here by recommending you Indukti. They're a must, you probably know them already. I mean, psychedelic metal with haunting violin and harp! They're a bit extreme, though. Not very 70s (but they do sound a lot like an updated 72-74 King Crimson).



I'm starting to flood here, sorry! Here's some splendid psychedelic metal-fusion:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:59
Thanks Alex.  I have Indukti's SUSAR -- great album which I haven't listened to for some years.  I was rather dismissive of modern metal until I discovered that album.  It was the violin that caught my attention with it, and why I got the album after hearing samples.  The Egocentrics is good -- enjoying it right now, and I've heard some Freakzoid before.

Jazzy metal exotica/ lounge music would be really cool.

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