Which prog metal genre is your favourite?
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Topic: Which prog metal genre is your favourite?
Posted By: (De)progressive
Subject: Which prog metal genre is your favourite?
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 03:49
What is your favourite progressive metal genre and why? It'd be nice to give some band examples by the way about the genre.  ------------- ''Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.'' (Friedrich Nietzsche) 
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 07:03
| You forgot experimental/post. |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 07:06
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Are black metal and avant-garde metal really linked?
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 07:12
I was thinking the exact same thing. Growing up listening to Burzum and Ulver - and now listening to a lot of avant stuff, I find it difficult to see any kind of relationship between the 2 of them. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Henry Plainview wrote:Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 07:13
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Voted for Black n´ Avant though... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 07:14
Not enough to combine both, I think
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 09:48
You do get Aavnt garde black metal like In Lingua Mortua and Deathspell Omega. Voted for Black/Avant though. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 09:56
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Extreme prog metal(maybe)is my favorite kind of music as you know.But I voted the 1st option because Opeth belongs there.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 10:07
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Plain jane prog metal for me......that death/evil (eval) stuff me no like. -------------   
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 10:30
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I don't have favorite genres, only favorite artists, smug smug... Also I've never seen prog metal genres categorized like this so I need to think... Anyway, my fav progressive metal bands are Opeth, Psychotic Waltz, Enslaved, Voivod, Anathema, The Gathering and Neurosis. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:02
Same here ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:11
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I honestly don't understand these genres so I guess my vote is for plain Prog Metal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:12
Is that Karn Eval? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:19
Yes of course....what are you a numpty or something??
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:22
I am....I've only just realised that you were way ahead of me and and spelled evil both ways. You already made the joke without my help.  Next time I will read a post properly.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: kawkaw123
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:36
| The one with Dream Theater, Riverside, Pain of Salvation. which IMO are some of the best progressive acts out their today. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:40
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Progressive Metal, with Opeth as an exception if Im in the mood. Dream Theater, Symphony X, Liquid Tension Experiment, Riverside, Pain of Salvation, Indukti, Planet X, Derek Sherinian, OSI, Fates Warning are my kind of prog metal bands. I could never get into anything with excessive growls like death, black, extreme, -core, etc... I was always more into classic heavy metal and thrash metal. Ive also come to the conclusion that "post-" anything is usually not that good to my ears (except post-bop  )------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:42
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I've never considered LTE to be Progresive Metal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:49
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they're just an extension of DT I guess I'll also mention I like a lot of DT members' solo side projects, like Petrucci's solo album, and Jordan Rudess' albums like Feeding the Wheel and Rhythm of Time. LaBrie's stuff is ok, not my favorite. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 11:52
Are they? I disagree. They do music that DT doesn't do. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:13
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I don't really like black metal much at all, but I like the avant stuff much more than other metals...can't really vote for it though, since I don't like black metal.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:20
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My favourites being Agalloch, Negura Bunget, Isis, Indukti, Ulver, Deathspell Omega, Opeth, Maudlin Of The Well, Drudkh, Enslaved, Fen, East Of The Wall, BTBAM, Unexpect, Blotted Science, Animals As Leaders, Alchemist, In Lingua Mortua etc. I think I can easily vote Black/Avant just over Tech/Extreme, even if I was initially taken aback by the lack of Post/Exp. and wanted not to vote. I don't like how Prog-Metal leads with such a comfortable margin. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:23
I'd say Prog Metal is the most obvious winner on a Prog forum The others are far more progressive though  EDIT: hej, you like Alchemist  |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:27
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^ It was one of Kevin's recs. A couple of my prog-metal favourites: Parallaxe and MCM. Oh and Psychotic Waltz (but I don't know them very well). Oh crap, I forgot Indukti in the previous post, what the hell! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 12:59
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i used to like Drudkh when they had only 2 albums, also Emporer, Death, and a bunch of those types of bands, but i fell out of that style long ago. Opeth is the only band like that I can listen to at all these days LTE is prog metal, they're just instrumental, and they just have a lot of other influences in the music ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:05
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I like this kind of heavy metal, from Legend's 1979 album And, though not in PA, I consider it progressive. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:18
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^ I'm not well versed in pre-Metal  , but if they have an album full of this they could fit Heavy Prog.They probably didn't make it yet as they are considered a NWOBHM band. |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:24
My most exciting recent discovery is Yakuza. Have the last 3 albums and they are all killer. Samsara is even a masterpiece IMO. Dunno which of the 4 genres they fit in though. Post-Neurosis Metal I call it. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:25
Agreed. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:41
I don't think the whole album is up to that, and I know that under PA's system it would be considered for Heavy Prog, or possibly related, but I'm not thinking of proposing it (I just wanted to highlight the track as an example of music I really like). But it is not pre-metal, unless metal has been seperated from heavy metal, or classic metal (I remember at metal music archives when I suggested AC/DC being told that I don't know metal. Well, Back in Black was commonly considered heavy metal at the time, I remember that first-hand, but there's been a lot of revisionism). Anyway, it's a very rare album, actually, and some say a very early Viking metal release. I actually think it sounds rather dated for 1979. Incidentally, someone might be able to recommend some music to me: What i really like is psych-cosmic influenced music. What I think I'd really like is Kosmische metal fusion, or Metal-Electronic fusion -- Kraut metal that perhaps contrasts brutality with a Zeit like aesthetic. I'd like to make a New Age Viking Metal album: Listening to it would be like doing yoga in a meditation garden while a hairy viking sets fire to the garden then slaughters you with his battleaxe. Tranquility meets brutality. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:42
Well as I said, to me they aren't. No point in discussing it further though. We'll have to just disagree. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 13:47
I just call the Experimental and be done with it. And I find OF Seismic Consequence to be their best. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:08
Oh I was teasing a bit with the "pre-Metal" thing, though it sounds rather early 70's then end 70's. Interesting request, that Kosmische metal thing, but I'm not sure it exist. Kraut/Electronic and Metal are kind of polar opposites... Voivod went into a spacey direction, also Alchemist but they are very brutal. Can't think of much else right now. I'll keep my eyes open. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:24
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Greg, do you know the band 35007? They're in Space Rock here, but they're very metal. As cosmic as possible IMO. Sounds like Popol Vuh doing metal. |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:26
i guess  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:31
It does sound early 70's -- a Black Sabbath etc influence. I knew you were teasing a bit -- there is no definite dividing line between hard rock and heavy metal. I like Voivod. Will look for Alchemist. It was the first prog metal band I liked. They are kind of polar opposites, but then I like contrast in music, and that could make for some extreme contrast. By they way, I hear about Krautmetal, but what I've heard of it just sounds like pretty typical mainstreamish metal from Germany and does not seem influenced by the German schools of Krautrock. Another type of music I like is Jazz-metal Fusion. Of the options, I like experimental and ambient metal the most. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:33
I didn't. Sounds great! Thanks. |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:34
Also, stoner psych often sounds like in between krautrock and metal. Please allow me to plug-in one of my Romanian bands, http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5656" rel="nofollow - The :Egocentrics , as an example: |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:39
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Also, Greg, I hope I'm only being redundant here by recommending you Indukti. They're a must, you probably know them already. I mean, psychedelic metal with haunting violin and harp! They're a bit extreme, though. Not very 70s (but they do sound a lot like an updated 72-74 King Crimson). I'm starting to flood here, sorry! Here's some splendid psychedelic metal-fusion: |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:59
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Thanks Alex. I have Indukti's SUSAR -- great album which I haven't listened to for some years. I was rather dismissive of modern metal until I discovered that album. It was the violin that caught my attention with it, and why I got the album after hearing samples. The Egocentrics is good -- enjoying it right now, and I've heard some Freakzoid before. Jazzy metal exotica/ lounge music would be really cool. |
Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 15:02
Who can you add my least favorite metal genre (Black Metal) with my most favorite one (Avant-Garde Metal)?!?  Hulk MAAAD!  Edit: voted for Death/Technical/Math ------------- 
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 15:09
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what's Progressive Doom/Drone/Atmospheric???? ------------- -music is like pornography... sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 15:25
| Progressive Metal , but also like a lot progressive death melted with technical stuff, really great to listen |
Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 15:50
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I like specific bands in most metal genres that have any hope of being called prog.
Subdividing metal is always a sloppy affair though this one is especially messy.
I like:
Technicality
Layers
Jazzy drumming
Cleaner vocals with harsh harmony
Non standard song structure
But I'll line up for a great riff no matter what genre. ------------- You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:06
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Progressive Metal and some Experimental/Post Metal. I don't like Death or Doom Metal at all and I'm not too fond of guitar heroism either. I like most of Dream Theater and Maudlin of the Well and sometimes I hear a random chosen sample of one or another Prog Metal band that I like. ------------- 
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:28
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Black/Avant-Garde. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:47
I wouldnt say Indukti are particularly extreme, at least not on SUSAR, though I think you could say Idmen is very intense. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 16:49
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^ That is why I said "a bit"
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 21:13
Maybe another way of saying Experimental/Post Rock ? I'm not sure though. I do love atmospheric,dark music like IN THE WOODS... ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 21:39
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 21:42
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You need an option "None". ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 22:41
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Definitely prog metal. The others are usually to heavy for my tastes.
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Posted By: (De)progressive
Date Posted: March 30 2011 at 23:48
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Haha one day I'm gone and look at this, three pages. By the way I forgot to put the Experimental/Post-Metal above, I'm sorry. You can use Doom/Drone/Atmospheric as that though. It's not an unexpected thing to see Prog Metal as 1st but my favourite genre is of course Prog Black/Avant-Garde as you can see in my avatar. Enslaved, Negura Bunget, Arcturus, Ulver, Emperor, Blut Aus Nord, Deathspell Omega, Agalloch, Shining, Lifelover, Coldworld, Diabolical Masquerade, Dodheimsgard, Fen, Ihsahn, Peccatum, Oranssi Pazuzu, Secrets Of The Moon, Sigh, etc... ------------- ''Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.'' (Friedrich Nietzsche)
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 11:52
http://www.metalstorm.net/pub/fun_comments.php?fun_id=3%20" rel="nofollow - I had a blast reading this last night!  -------------
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:42
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I'm going to have to go with none of the above. I won't slam them though because metal fans carry knives and aren't afraid to use them.
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 01 2011 at 16:35
| I don't think I'll ever understand Drone/Doom metal. |
Posted By: (De)progressive
Date Posted: April 02 2011 at 05:12
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Because you've a limited understanding.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: April 02 2011 at 07:03
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Prog Doom/Drone/Atmospheric is my favorit followed by Prog Black/Avant-Garde and then Prog Death/Technical/Math.
And last is the traditional prog metal which im no big fan of. ------------- 
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 02 2011 at 08:10
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Don't we all? |