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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2011 at 23:31

Hi,

I think that any and all of the years are good.

To say one year is better than the other, pretty much states that we have favorites and are not listening to new things from other countries around the world. I still think that Germany, France and Italy went massive and quite far, and to suggest that one year was better than the other ... to me ... is like saying that one has not heard more music, and can only listen to a "style" ... that, for the most part, is no longer "progressive" at all!

Walter's point is actually pretty well taken, if one considers the Internet starting to go popular around that time. Since then, the proliferation of music is way too much, and a lot of it is really poor, by comparison to anything that we tend to discuss all around, and with that came the myriad of genres, so one can more or less find similar things. In general, the problem with that (for me!) is that ... they all sound the same! Metal is a perfect example!

I was just listening to "Here Come the Warm Jets" (Eno) and the guitar parts in there, still make some of the metal and harder material out there today, sound like cheap rock'n'roll!






Edited by moshkito - January 09 2011 at 23:34
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2011 at 03:45
i would not talk or discuss a specific year, but a specific moment, or period.

the rise of metal, norse metal, black metal, and prog metal specially opened up a new world, a new genre of music.
those guys could invent and create something new using little influence from the esarly 70's artists.

both times were quite productive in my opinion anyway, but as i am (now) a more prog metal, post-metal, agalloch fan, i can say all this "black" movement was quite productive.

nice topic, btw (altough its hard to draw a conclusion)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2011 at 05:31
Also 1972 / 1973.

Why? Take a look at the discography of any of the Prog artists around at that time and check what they released at that time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2011 at 10:02
Most people using computer based home-studio have access to the kind of technology that even bands from the 80's or 90's could only dream of - unless they were U2 or someone of that stature. Of course a lot of dross is put out on the net these days but there's plenty that is extraordinarily good. Also, without the internet where would prog be today?
As to what was the most productive year, clearly 1972/73 were pretty vintage but i think 2009/10 were both fairly sh*t-hot.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2011 at 13:17
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

I think that any and all of the years are good.

To say one year is better than the other, pretty much states that we have favorites and are not listening to new things from other countries around the world. I still think that Germany, France and Italy went massive and quite far, and to suggest that one year was better than the other ... to me ... is like saying that one has not heard more music, and can only listen to a "style" ... that, for the most part, is no longer "progressive" at all!

Walter's point is actually pretty well taken, if one considers the Internet starting to go popular around that time. Since then, the proliferation of music is way too much, and a lot of it is really poor, by comparison to anything that we tend to discuss all around, and with that came the myriad of genres, so one can more or less find similar things. In general, the problem with that (for me!) is that ... they all sound the same! Metal is a perfect example!

I was just listening to "Here Come the Warm Jets" (Eno) and the guitar parts in there, still make some of the metal and harder material out there today, sound like cheap rock'n'roll!

Regardless of the output volume before the internet went popular......there is plenty of garbage pre and post internet...so plenty of garbage from 1970-2010.
As well as plenty of good stuff 1970-2010....it all evens out. Genres, music labels are what create the premature dislike of an artist.....its all rock n' roll.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2011 at 15:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2011 at 13:11
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Seriously, probably 1972.  Simply too many classics from that year to list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2011 at 13:20
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Nathaniel607 Nathaniel607 wrote:

2009 maybe.

To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. 

But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story...


All of it is pure trash. Absurd quantity, yet nothing of quality. All these worthless internet bands, with their lousy digital home studios and samples and copped riffs, have added nothing to legacy of the art form once known music. Indeed, all they've done is saturate the information superhighway with dross that impedes people from accessing the real deal.
 
But Walter I also think about had pre '89 artists had some kind of digital medium to get their music out, how much more would there be? I mean how many potential new artists did we miss out on in the 70's and 80's because they had no means to get their music out to the public? Your right, it does not cost much to put out an album with the internet and home studios on a laptop.......but does that mean its all trash?


Conjectures about what could've and might've happened are worthless. The facts remain: Cheap digital chicanery for the imbecile masses is a post-89 development. Post-89 aberrants put zero effort into creating their derivative smut. The pre-89 bands that got to record their music did it out of sheer effort and force of will. That, my friend, is commendable. Post-89 trash, however, is always meritless garbage.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 02:24
Nineteen seventy-one was probably the most productive year for progressive rock. Alan Freeman had a themed episode of his Saturday Rock Show, on BBC Radio One, based on this year. He rarely had themes to his shows and I do not recall him repeating this with another year. Below is a small sample of British albums A-F alone:  
 
1971 abc
o        A Musical Evening with Mick Abrahams, the first album by Mick Abrahams, is released on Island. 
o        America the first album by America is released on Warner Brothers. 
o        666 album by Aphrodite’s Child is released. 
o        In Hearing Of by Atomic Rooster is released on B&C. 
o        Once Again, the second album by Barclay James Harvest, is released on Harvest.
o        Short Stories, the third album by Barclay James Harvest, is released on Harvest.
o        Master of Reality by Black Sabbath is released on Vertigo.
o        Hunky Dory album by David Bowie is released on RCA. The album includes Changes, Oh You Pretty Things and Life On Mars.
o        Stretching Out album by the Alan Bown Set is released on Island.
o        Budgie the first album by Budgie is released on MCA.
o        Colosseum Live, the fourth album by Colosseum, is released on Bronze.
o        Second Album, the second album by Curved Air, is released on Warner Bros. It contains Back Street Luv.

1971 def
o        Fireball, the sixth album by Deep Purple Mark II, is released on Harvest.
o        Sing Children Sing the first album by Lesley Duncan is released on CBS.
o        The Electric Light Orchestra, the first album by the Electric Light Orchestra, is released on Harvest.
o        Long Player, the second album by the Faces (Rod Stewart), is released on Warner Bros.
o        A Nod's as Good as a Wink . . . to a Blind Horse, the third album by the Faces (Rod Stewart), is released on Warner Bros.
o        Angel Delight, the sixth album by Fairport Convention, is released on Island.
o        Babbacombe Lee, the seventh album by Fairport Convention, is released on Island.
o        Fearless, the third album by Family, marks John Wetton’s arrival in the band.
o        The Original Fleetwood Mac, the sixth album by Fleetwood Mac, is released on CBS. The line-up is Peter Green guitar, vocals/ Jeremy Spencer slide guitar, vocals/ John McVie bass/ Mick Fleetwood drums.
o        Future Games, the seventh album by Fleetwood Mac, is released on Reprise. The line-up is Bob Welch guitar, vocals/ Danny Kirwan guitar, vocals/ Christine Perfect keyboards, vocals/ John McVie bass/ Mick Fleetwood drums.
o        Free Live, the fifth album by Free, is released on Island.
 
If anyone can suggest further examples, I would be grateful. Thanks in advance.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:38
Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

i believe that 1972 - 73 was the most productive one in all terms ! what do you think ?   
 
I think 1972-73 is two, not one.
I have to echo Bob's question - are we talking quantity or quality here? If it's purely the number of prog albums released, then it may well be 2010. If we're talking "classic" prog albums then it's probably 1972 or 1973.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:01
gotta give 1970 some credit, for being the birth year of metal
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:20
Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

If some-one would ask me, which rarely happens by the way, I'd say 1970 what the year prog got it's momentum. From that year on the course was set for progressive rock, which makes it the main productive moment for the movement for me.
 
Nahhh ... I would go back to 1967 and 1968 and 1969 for the best and most productive years in prog ... without them, I seriously doubt that anything else would have happened the way it did to get what we got.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:33
Originally posted by progvortex progvortex wrote:

1969. Because regardless of the quantity of music subsequently released, none can match the grandeur of our King's debut. 

So you think 1969 is the best year just because of one album?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2011 at 17:08
It would have to be the years 1973/74. Too many classics to name here but...Crimso's Red, Tull's 'Passion Play, Floyd's Dark Side', Nektar's Remember the Future/Down to Earth, Genesis' Selling England'/'Lamb', ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, Yes' Relayer, Camel's Mirage, Zappa's Over-Nite Sensation/Apostrophe, and Gentle Giant's In a Glass House  to only name a few and not to malign anything that came before them. I'm not stating that any of these albums were the best of the artists they represented - it's just that they all contained this magic that couldn't be dismissed at the time. And if you were alive back then, there was this something in the air (and I'm not talking about what could be inhaled)...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 21 2011 at 15:35

Hard to say offhand. I'd have to review the years in a play-by-play fashion. A 197_ would no doubt emerge on top, BUT...1980 and 1981 are both cool years. '81 saw great new albums from the likes of Rush, Saga, Eloy, Tangerine Dream, Black Sabbath and the reconstituted King Crimson, among others.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 24 2011 at 06:22
Originally posted by Junges Junges wrote:

Originally posted by progvortex progvortex wrote:

1969. Because regardless of the quantity of music subsequently released, none can match the grandeur of our King's debut. 

So you think 1969 is the best year just because of one album?



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It's still not clear to me whether we're talking quantity or quality here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:39
1972 & 1973. hands off!!!
most of the great prog bands reached their peaks of their musical production around those years.
1972:
close to the edge
trilogy
foxtrot
thick as a brick
octopus
pawn hearts
1973:
selling england by the pound
dark side of the moon
brain salad surgery
in a glass house
larks tongues in aspic (though i dont consider this album to be crimson´s greatest), but still !!!


i repeat, hands off!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2011 at 09:10
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 30 2011 at 10:04
just check what masterpieces came out between 1972-1974. everyone can his/hers favourite year ...

mine is 1972.
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