Most Productive Year for prog 1970 - 2010 !
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Topic: Most Productive Year for prog 1970 - 2010 !
Posted By: trackstoni
Subject: Most Productive Year for prog 1970 - 2010 !
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 12:49
i know that couple of years left behind , but there was no competition at that time , the real one started at the end of 1969 . as a magazine owner at that time , i use to get all available album released around the globe , from label companies via ordinary mail or by hand from people travelling around , also i still have a lot of copies of Melody Maker , Sound , Bravo ( Germany) , Billboard , Time Out etc ... etc even the copies of my magazine ( 1969 - 75 ) issues . So , i believe that 1972 - 73 was the most productive one in all terms ! what do you think ?  ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
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Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 14:09
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2009 maybe. To be honest, I think anyone saying anything before 2000 is lying/fanboy/deluded/Walter. The internet has just helped so many more bands and artists get their material out there. There's enough material available in a post-internet (well, since it got popular) year to last me a lifetime. But yeah, that's in terms of how much material is available to the average music listener. Music actually made is a different story... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nathaniel607" rel="nofollow - My Last FM Profile 
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Posted By: Andy Webb
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:39
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I think 2007 was a good year. that was also the first year i really got into prog, so i may be a bit biased ------------- http://ow.ly/8ymqg" rel="nofollow">  
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: January 08 2011 at 15:46
All of it is pure trash. Absurd quantity, yet nothing of quality. All these worthless internet bands, with their lousy digital home studios and samples and copped riffs, have added nothing to legacy of the art form once known music. Indeed, all they've done is saturate the information superhighway with dross that impedes people from accessing the real deal. |
Nathaniel607 wrote:Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:01
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just looking at the tops year by year here on PA, I'd say 1971. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:09
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:29
Shhhh.... We're supposed to work around that one.  ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 09:54
| Are you referring only to quality TT, or is quality relevant to your topic too? |
Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 10:20
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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 13:04
No, I think because it's considered the epic, definitive, absolute, undisupted peak of the genre....
....by some.
Probably including me! ------------- http://www.thefreshfilmblog.com/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: let prog reign
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:07
| For the classic age 72 and 73 definitely. But for more recent times I would say 2008. And 2009 were great years. |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:24
But Walter I also think about had pre '89 artists had some kind of digital medium to get their music out, how much more would there be? I mean how many potential new artists did we miss out on in the 70's and 80's because they had no means to get their music out to the public? Your right, it does not cost much to put out an album with the internet and home studios on a laptop.......but does that mean its all trash? -------------   
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Posted By: plpicher
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 14:25
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1973: The Dark Side of the Moon Selling England by the Pound In a Glass House Birds of Fire Tubular Bells Larks Tongue in Aspic Camel I'm sure I forget a lot '72&'73 were clearly the best years for prog, '74 was also good.
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 15:20
| If some-one would ask me, which rarely happens by the way, I'd say 1970 what the year prog got it's momentum. From that year on the course was set for progressive rock, which makes it the main productive moment for the movement for me. |
Posted By: Nathaniel607
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 16:15
Exactly. What he seems to be suggesting is that if albums can't be released in the traditional manner, they must be sh*t. How can the number of albums overall go up, but only with the number of bad ones increasing? Not only is it silly, it's downright statistically impossible with numbers as great as they are. Besides, nothing wrong with home studios in my opinion, but then again, I'm not really an audiophile. Also, how does there being a lot of bad material stop people getting good material? That's a silly argument. There are loads of 60s' and 70s' bands who have pretty much only got popular once the internet rolled around. Well, I can't prove it, but you know the ones I mean - the obscure, usually one-album-wonder bands.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 16:25
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to be honest in this , and while still in the beginning of this , what i've meant , was only about Masterpieces & Excellent stuff that we have today ! ------------- Tracking Tracks of Rock |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 18:08
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In the 70's, from 71 to 73 and in recent times from 06 to 09.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 20:21
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It depends of a genre. Early 70's were great for Symphonic prog, but not so great in the late 70's. But the era was great for jazz rock fusion. Electronic was great in 70's and first half of the 80's, it became atrocious in mid-late 80's, coming back to form as 90's advanced. Avant prog has many facets and it's great in all periods: from The Residents to Kayo Dot. First half of the 90's don't do much for me. But 95-00 period revealed some great prog. 00's too. There are exceptions, of course. If I had to pick my favourite prog year (for let's say 1967-2011) I would draw an envelope: a steep slope up in the 60's, high in the 70's, moderately going down, again jumping up in the 1980, steeply falling down almost to zero, remaining low through a chunk of the 90's and then going up in the last quarter, keeping more or less constant line to this day. ------------- |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 20:31
Yeah, that's what I was getting at. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: progvortex
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 21:46
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1969. Because regardless of the quantity of music subsequently released, none can match the grandeur of our King's debut.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 09 2011 at 23:31
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Hi, I think that any and all of the years are good. To say one year is better than the other, pretty much states that we have favorites and are not listening to new things from other countries around the world. I still think that Germany, France and Italy went massive and quite far, and to suggest that one year was better than the other ... to me ... is like saying that one has not heard more music, and can only listen to a "style" ... that, for the most part, is no longer "progressive" at all! Walter's point is actually pretty well taken, if one considers the Internet starting to go popular around that time. Since then, the proliferation of music is way too much, and a lot of it is really poor, by comparison to anything that we tend to discuss all around, and with that came the myriad of genres, so one can more or less find similar things. In general, the problem with that (for me!) is that ... they all sound the same! Metal is a perfect example! I was just listening to "Here Come the Warm Jets" (Eno) and the guitar parts in there, still make some of the metal and harder material out there today, sound like cheap rock'n'roll! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: TheOppenheimer
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 03:45
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i would not talk or discuss a specific year, but a specific moment, or period. the rise of metal, norse metal, black metal, and prog metal specially opened up a new world, a new genre of music. those guys could invent and create something new using little influence from the esarly 70's artists. both times were quite productive in my opinion anyway, but as i am (now) a more prog metal, post-metal, agalloch fan, i can say all this "black" movement was quite productive. nice topic, btw (altough its hard to draw a conclusion) ------------- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// A veces es cuestión de esperar, y tomarte en silencio. |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 05:31
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Also 1972 / 1973. Why? Take a look at the discography of any of the Prog artists around at that time and check what they released at that time. |
Posted By: timburlane
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 10:02
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Most people using computer based home-studio have access to the kind of technology that even bands from the 80's or 90's could only dream of - unless they were U2 or someone of that stature. Of course a lot of dross is put out on the net these days but there's plenty that is extraordinarily good. Also, without the internet where would prog be today?
As to what was the most productive year, clearly 1972/73 were pretty vintage but i think 2009/10 were both fairly sh*t-hot.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 10 2011 at 13:17
As well as plenty of good stuff 1970-2010....it all evens out. Genres, music labels are what create the premature dislike of an artist.....its all rock n' roll. -------------
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Posted By: Hello!Prog?
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 14:14
All Hail Nineteen SixtyNine! 
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Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: January 11 2011 at 15:19
| 68 72 73 |
Posted By: akajazzman
Date Posted: January 15 2011 at 13:11
1985
Seriously, probably 1972. Simply too many classics from that year to list.
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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: January 15 2011 at 13:20
Conjectures about what could've and might've happened are worthless. The facts remain: Cheap digital chicanery for the imbecile masses is a post-89 development. Post-89 aberrants put zero effort into creating their derivative smut. The pre-89 bands that got to record their music did it out of sheer effort and force of will. That, my friend, is commendable. Post-89 trash, however, is always meritless garbage. |
Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 02:24
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Nineteen seventy-one was probably the most productive year for progressive rock. Alan Freeman had a themed episode of his Saturday Rock Show, on BBC Radio One, based on this year. He rarely had themes to his shows and I do not recall him repeating this with another year. Below is a small sample of British albums A-F alone:
1971 abc
o A Musical Evening with Mick Abrahams, the first album by Mick Abrahams, is released on
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o 666 album by Aphrodite’s Child is released.
o In Hearing Of by Atomic Rooster is released on B&C.
o Once Again, the second album by Barclay James Harvest, is released on Harvest.
o Short Stories, the third album by Barclay James Harvest, is released on Harvest.
o Master of Reality by Black Sabbath is released on Vertigo.
o Hunky Dory album by David Bowie is released on RCA. The album includes Changes, Oh You Pretty Things and Life On Mars.
o Stretching Out album by the Alan Bown Set is released on
o Budgie the first album by Budgie is released on MCA.
o Colosseum Live, the fourth album by Colosseum, is released on Bronze.
o Second Album, the second album by Curved Air, is released on Warner Bros. It contains Back Street Luv.
1971 def
o Fireball, the sixth album by Deep Purple Mark II, is released on Harvest.
o Sing Children Sing the first album by Lesley Duncan is released on CBS.
o The Electric Light Orchestra, the first album by the Electric Light Orchestra, is released on Harvest.
o Long Player, the second album by the Faces (Rod Stewart), is released on Warner Bros.
o A Nod's as Good as a Wink . . . to a Blind Horse, the third album by the Faces (Rod Stewart), is released on Warner Bros.
o Angel Delight, the sixth album by Fairport Convention, is released on
o Babbacombe Lee, the seventh album by Fairport Convention, is released on
o Fearless, the third album by Family, marks John Wetton’s arrival in the band.
o The Original Fleetwood Mac, the sixth album by Fleetwood Mac, is released on CBS. The line-up is Peter Green guitar, vocals/ Jeremy Spencer slide guitar, vocals/ John McVie bass/ Mick Fleetwood drums.
o Future Games, the seventh album by Fleetwood Mac, is released on Reprise. The line-up is Bob Welch guitar, vocals/ Danny Kirwan guitar, vocals/ Christine Perfect keyboards, vocals/ John McVie bass/ Mick Fleetwood drums.
o Free Live, the fifth album by Free, is released on
The remainder is here: http://itemequalstotem.blogspot.com/2010/12/british-american-music-and-albums-of.html" rel="nofollow - http://itemequalstotem.blogspot.com/2010/12/british-american-music-and-albums-of.html If anyone can suggest further examples, I would be grateful. Thanks in advance.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 06:38
I think 1972-73 is two, not one.
I have to echo Bob's question - are we talking quantity or quality here? If it's purely the number of prog albums released, then it may well be 2010. If we're talking "classic" prog albums then it's probably 1972 or 1973.
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Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 07:01
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gotta give 1970 some credit, for being the birth year of metal
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:20
Nahhh ... I would go back to 1967 and 1968 and 1969 for the best and most productive years in prog ... without them, I seriously doubt that anything else would have happened the way it did to get what we got. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 16:33
So you think 1969 is the best year just because of one album?
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Posted By: esky
Date Posted: January 19 2011 at 17:08
| It would have to be the years 1973/74. Too many classics to name here but...Crimso's Red, Tull's 'Passion Play, Floyd's Dark Side', Nektar's Remember the Future/Down to Earth, Genesis' Selling England'/'Lamb', ELP's Brain Salad Surgery, Yes' Relayer, Camel's Mirage, Zappa's Over-Nite Sensation/Apostrophe, and Gentle Giant's In a Glass House to only name a few and not to malign anything that came before them. I'm not stating that any of these albums were the best of the artists they represented - it's just that they all contained this magic that couldn't be dismissed at the time. And if you were alive back then, there was this something in the air (and I'm not talking about what could be inhaled)... |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: January 21 2011 at 15:35
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Hard to say offhand. I'd have to review the years in a play-by-play fashion. A 197_ would no doubt emerge on top, BUT...1980 and 1981 are both cool years. '81 saw great new albums from the likes of Rush, Saga, Eloy, Tangerine Dream, Black Sabbath and the reconstituted King Crimson, among others. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 24 2011 at 06:22
It's still not clear to me whether we're talking quantity or quality here.
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Posted By: juandhaltrich
Date Posted: January 26 2011 at 22:39
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1972 & 1973. hands off!!! most of the great prog bands reached their peaks of their musical production around those years. 1972: close to the edge trilogy foxtrot thick as a brick octopus pawn hearts 1973: selling england by the pound dark side of the moon brain salad surgery in a glass house larks tongues in aspic (though i dont consider this album to be crimson´s greatest), but still !!! i repeat, hands off!
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Posted By: JakeMM626
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 09:10
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1972 ------------- 
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Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 10:04
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just check what masterpieces came out between 1972-1974. everyone can his/hers favourite year ... mine is 1972. |
Posted By: kglenz
Date Posted: January 30 2011 at 21:07
| For Europe the Canterbury scene of the late 60's early 70's seems to have initiated one of the great sparks of bands that I enjoy - for America somewhere in the mid 70's. Although it was good to see Dream Theater's latest album do so well on the charts & I enjoyed the progressive rock tour with DT, Zappa Plays Zappa & others. I was reading the discussion about modern vs. early prog & I can see both points of view in that my only issue with the latest trends in prog rock are that the bands seem to be too similar. Everyone sounds like Rush (even DT) or some metal band. What I loved about the Canterbury scene & King Crimson is that they incorporated other instruments besides drums & guitars (& synth. to a lesser degree). I get so tired of the same sounds & themes & the 70's prog scene was all about doing it live. I just picked up a CD from Soft Machine called "Live at the Proms 1970" & its outrageously in your face "Coltrane/Zorn" but with a rock edge - keys, bass, sax & drums. Its the same with a PFM album I picked up recently (Jet lag - it's great!), that didn't have the best review - but for me it's so refreshing to hear woodwinds & violins with a prog/rock (Jethro Tull-esk) back drop. I've learned to NEVER listen to someone reviewing prog that cares about sales statistics, singles or popular whatever. |