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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:12
I write reviews for another prog site (as well as for PA), so I get to listen to a lot of new stuff. Well, I can't count the times I've written about a clear Pink Floyd influence in the music of a new band or artist. The Floyd might not have been the best as regards technical skill (as if it was the end-all in music), but they sure knew a thing or two about songwriting. People like Dream Theater could definitely learn something from them.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:13
Oh, jeez, this isn't the right section, is it, haha?


I can't stand Justin Bieber....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:14
I completely agree, Raff. Again, for the seventh time, I'm NOT bashing Floyd - I'm just kind of losing interest in their music. Great songwriters, in every aspect; and instrumentally, they were all exemplars, really. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rdtprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:18
Is anyone got the same feeling with Porcupine Tree? I am sick but i can't stop listening to their music, like a alcoholic who still drinking despite many bad effects of drinnking too much...Ouch
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:24
No, I've never had a feeling like that. Interesting, though.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dominic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:38
Most of Pink Floyd's music is just way more catchy and less abrasive than Tull and VDGG. Also, Tull and VDGG have vocalists that are way more peculiar; in my observations, vocalists with "pretty" voices seem to matter to people alot more than the substance of the instrumentation in pop music.

Anyways... i like all three of the mentioned bands immensely. Pink Floyd just happens to be most popular; more the better for them


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:42
But that's their appeal, you know?
Ian Anderson and Peter Hammill are both magnificent singers, mainly because of the quirkiness of their voices. It's the same deal with Peter Gabriel and Jon Anderson; and I doubt anyone would claim that  Barett's and Waters's voices aren't 'peculiar' or 'quirky', even if Gilmour's aren't.

Catchiness really isn't a big concern when it comes to progressive rock music, however, am I correct?
But I suppose that's why they receive so much airplay, huh?
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Originally posted by classicprogsovereign classicprogsovereign wrote:


Catchiness really isn't a big concern when it comes to progressive rock music, however, am I correct?
But I suppose that's why they receive so much airplay, huh?


For sure, "classic rock" listeners don't wanna sit through some super long composition with a symphonic structure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:57
Well, of course, but several of Pink Floyd's songs, even if they aren't strictly *symphonic* are exceedingly lengthy.
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If they're popular, that means they're not good (?)
Yeah, Another Brick Pt. 2 is not a great song, you might not like their popular songs and I would agree, but have ou ever listened to Animals, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother...?
They're great
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Sleepwalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 16:39
Originally posted by classicprogsovereign classicprogsovereign wrote:

Trust me, you can ask any classic rock junky about Pink Floyd, and they'd claim to be all-knowing in the realm of progressive rock music. I dare you, ask them about Van der Graaf Generator or Family, and they'd be totally lost. 

I don't think most "classic rock junkies" know or want to admit that PF is progressive rock. 

On the rest of your post:
I think the thing that causes all these things is that PF are relatively accesible compared to a band like VDGG. 
There are many people that can't stand Peter Hammill's vocals or whatever thing that might sound a bit radical to one's ears.
PF don't really have any of those radical things (early Floyd does have some by the way, Atom Heart Mother for example), but that doesn't mean they are any less good or unique. 
The band manages to interest both prog fans and "mainstream" music listeners, which is quite a special thing if you ask me. 

Also, if you stay a while on this site you will be wanting some PF threads after the thousands of Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater threads you'll find here!LOL

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 16:51
I don't get kind of sick about anything regarding musical bands or their status, be it legendary or obscure. I don't get kind of sick about any perception regarding progressive rock. And I don't open threads, to summon everyone who would be kind of sick of the same thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Any Colour You Like Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 16:54
I'm listening to Animals right now. I've probably heard it over 100 times in my life. It still amazes me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 17:05
After being a big Pink Floyd fan for many years, I got kind of tired of the band and stopped listening to PF's albums for years (particularly as I got back into, and really explored deeply, progressive rock).  I've fairly recently come to appreciate PF releases more after re-discovering Atom Heart Mother which fits my tastes very well.  Music appreciation can be so cyclical for me and of course tastes change/ develop/ expand over time.  When I joined this site I think that Gentle Giant was still my favourite band, but I overplayed it and went off it. I used to love Yes (at least for Fragile -- vever much cared for Close to the Edge on the whole), but went off it many years ago.  I used to really like ELP, but now find it almost unplayable on the whole.

I don't really care what most other people say and have never cared that much about popularity status.  The majoirty of the music I really like is pretty obscure, but it's not because music is less popular that I like it, it's more that my tastes are fairly unusual (though not that unusual at PA).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PROGMONSTER2008 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 17:07
Floyd were a fairly simple prog band. I like meddle, atom heart, obscured, animals and the wall. I really don't care for dark side or wish you were here much
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

I don't get kind of sick about anything regarding musical bands or their status, be it legendary or obscure. I don't get kind of sick about any perception regarding progressive rock. And I don't open threads, to summon everyone who would be kind of sick of the same thing.


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Originally posted by classicprogsovereign classicprogsovereign wrote:

I just don't think it's fair that other bands, which are arguably much better, get no recognition, and are stuck standing in Floyd's shadow. 
 
You should clean the crud out of your ears and LISTEN intelligently before posting such crap......
 
 
First your argument already gives a final mouth clampdown answer..... the bands that get stuck in  Floyd's shadow because they are derivative and have absolutely NOTHING new to say.....
 
 
Floyd is/was one of the best bands ever and rightly deserves every ounce of recognition ....
 
these guys were one of the most adventurous group ever, and only part of what they did is actually available on disc
 
Not only did they write soundtracks to films and ballets, but they also created special shows in musique concrete (the famous Concertgebouw shows  in Amsterdam)
 
 
There is no two albums of theirs that even sound the same, because they took care to reinvent themselves with every new album......  What other group can claim this??? Not even Gentle Giant or Crimson
 
 
PINK FLOYD LIVES Hug
 
 
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Edited by Sean Trane - January 02 2010 at 06:53
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote classicprogsovereign Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 17:37
Are you kidding? I love those records. 
I'm just sick of hearing about their Dark Side of the Moon-The Wall era stuff, you know?
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Originally posted by classicprogsovereign classicprogsovereign wrote:

Are you kidding? I love those records. 
I'm just sick of hearing about their Dark Side of the Moon-The Wall era stuff, you know?
 
 
 
Well you're being over-exposed to these four marvellous (and near perfect) albums ..... that's one thing
 
 
Seeing your young age.Wink.... i think you're forgetting that Floyd was groundbreaking at every step they took..... They explored new grounds every time they published a new album..... they topok pride is not copying themselves  in any shape way or form
 
 
You may be sick of hearing DSOTM....... but this is rightfully one of the best album ever made..... they knew they were onto something, and they made sure it would make history.... there isn't a single note on that album that is not simply bloody perfect..... back in 73...... jusr like today
let's just stay above the moral melee
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote stonebeard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2010 at 18:04
I enjoy every single Pink Floyd album. There's enough variety in ther catelog so I could listen to only Floyd forever and it wouldn't be a horrible thing.
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