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Roj 
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 Posted: May 01 2009 at 11:19 |
 moe_blunts wrote:
Roj M30 wrote:
Could anybody recommend where to start with Boards of Canada?
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Music Has the Right to Children is their most acclaimed.
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Thanks moe. I'll try and get that one.
Oh, by the way, like your avatar!
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 03:10 |
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Music Has the Right to Children is the best non-prog album I've ever heard.
Great thread, Roj M30. I'm convinced that the IDM scene is soaked in prog sensibilities. I've read interviews with Alex Paterson of The Orb where he namechecks all the prog bands - and is compared to Pink Floyd. Note that he collaborated with Fripp (though so does everyone, apparently it's compulsory) in the band FFWD, actually listed on this site.
Of course, Steve Hillage put together System 7 which, while less demanding than the core IDM bands, is very Ozric Tentacles-like.
All these are examples of how IDM is strongly prog-influenced. I tried approaching the electronic prog collaborators, but IDM wasn't their idea of prog, so we won't be seeing them here. But FSOL, The Orb, Aphex Twin, Plaid (an absolute must-listen, as is their parent band The Black Dog), Orbital (how can In Sides not be considered prog? Even the rock press called it progressive! A 26-minute version of The Box, for goodness' sake!!!) and many more. Have a listen to Sasha's 'Airdrawndagger' if you're not convinced. Or Underworld's 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman'.
Sorry, I'm starting to froth at the mouth. IDM is a classic example of music that WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED HAD PROG NOT EXISTED. It is 'prog-influenced' - prog leaks out of every pore. Every pore, I tell you!!! argh argh argh
Edited by russellk - May 02 2009 at 03:25
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Roj
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 04:26 |
russellk wrote:
Music Has the Right to Children is the best non-prog album I've ever heard.
Great thread, Roj M30. I'm convinced that the IDM scene is soaked in prog sensibilities. I've read interviews with Alex Paterson of The Orb where he namechecks all the prog bands - and is compared to Pink Floyd. Note that he collaborated with Fripp (though so does everyone, apparently it's compulsory) in the band FFWD, actually listed on this site.
Of course, Steve Hillage put together System 7 which, while less demanding than the core IDM bands, is very Ozric Tentacles-like.
All these are examples of how IDM is strongly prog-influenced. I tried approaching the electronic prog collaborators, but IDM wasn't their idea of prog, so we won't be seeing them here. But FSOL, The Orb, Aphex Twin, Plaid (an absolute must-listen, as is their parent band The Black Dog), Orbital (how can In Sides not be considered prog? Even the rock press called it progressive! A 26-minute version of The Box, for goodness' sake!!!) and many more. Have a listen to Sasha's 'Airdrawndagger' if you're not convinced. Or Underworld's 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman'.
Sorry, I'm starting to froth at the mouth. IDM is a classic example of music that WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED HAD PROG NOT EXISTED. It is 'prog-influenced' - prog leaks out of every pore. Every pore, I tell you!!! argh argh argh
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Well said Russell  it's great to hear someone has the same view as me concerning this music. You are absolutely right, without prog there would be no IDM. I am sure of that.
Way back at the start of the 90s when I discovered what is now classed as IDM, I viewed it as new progressive music and I still do. There's so much influence and overlap, with a very modern twist.
I absolutely adore The Black Dog, they are one of my all-time favourite bands. I challenge anybody to listen to Psil-Cosyin from Spanners and tell me that's not prog. I have several of their albums, the best of which are Spanners and Bytes which I'd totally recommend. I've not checked out Plaid yet; that is my next objective along with Boards Of Canada and Venetian Snares.
The Orb is another favourite of mine. Their debut album reeks of prog, from the long blissful tracks to the cover art. One that all should hear is Oxbow Lakes by The Orb from Orbus Terrarum. It's not even electronic, it's pure symphonic prog!!
Sasha is another favourite of mine, both as an artist in his own right and as a DJ. Back in my DJ-ing days he was always the one to follow, playing those trancey tracks with IDM-crossover that no other DJs would touch. His Global Underground San Francisco is another all-time favourite of mine and with plenty of other IDM sits proudly on my MP3 alongside Floyd, TFK, ELP, PT, genesis et al
Great post Russell  .
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Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:41 |
 That's what I have, minus ambient/drone.  (obviously only some of that is IDM)
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Posted: May 07 2009 at 21:19 |
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as much of a huge fan of prog I am, Audion's album Suckfish is one of my favorite albums ever
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 08:24 |
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i've heard The Black Dog - Spanners and i like it. very good electronica
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Posted: May 08 2009 at 10:34 |
angelmk wrote:
i've heard The Black Dog - Spanners and i like it. very good electronica |
You have very good taste .
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Posted: May 13 2009 at 06:28 |
Music Has The Right To Children - Boards Of Canada and Not For Threes - Plaid, now ordered by me  .
Also, interesting to note that Amorphous Androgenous are now on PA   , Should we suggest The Black Dog and FSOL next? |
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Posted: May 13 2009 at 12:23 |
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Progressive Electronic should totally be added to the archive. \
EDIT: Well, I guess it is...but it's too nostalgic. I guess that's what you get with a bunch of aging, opinionated hippies. The genre has progressed further and needs some modernization.
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 04:22 |
moe_blunts wrote:
Progressive Electronic should totally be added to the archive. \
EDIT: Well, I guess it is...but it's too nostalgic. I guess that's what you get with a bunch of aging, opinionated hippies. The genre has progressed further and needs some modernization.
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I think we should either have a specific "Berlin School" subgenre, or none at all. Aphex Twin, etc. and even BT make very freaking proggy music, not even in progressing terms. This Binary Universe is definitely one of the best ambient/progressive electronic albums I've ever heard.
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Vicky Garten
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 06:32 |
What - no one has mentioned the following :-
Xerox & illumination
The Commercial Hippies
Hydrophonic
Eskimo
For me if it's not prog it's Psytrance -loud, very loud ! |
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 06:58 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 07:08 |
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At the risk of damning the fledgling genre with faint praise, the best non prog album I have heard in the last 10 years, for someone who HATES DANCE MUSIC PASSIONATELY is 'We Strike' by Anima Sound System from 2006. It incorporates Eastern European folk idioms, Bartok, Kodaly, Janacek et al and ethnic instrumentation but somehow manages to transcend the whole 'world music' w**kfest into something infinetely more credible.
Has anyone heard this adorable little Hungarian critter ?
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 07:12 |
Vicky Garten wrote:
What - no one has mentioned the following :-
Xerox & illumination
The Commercial Hippies
Hydrophonic
Eskimo |
I'd definitely echo Eskimo & Xerox from Vicky's recommentations - another to look out for is Younger Brother (effectively Simon Posford under another name) - the album 'Last days Of Gravity' has a great chilled feel to it & is not 100 miles from Pink Floyd...
System 7 are a great band - seen them many times, ditto Shpongle, OTT (another firm recommendation), Eskimo & Hallucinogen
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angelmk
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 11:54 |
Vicky Garten wrote:
What - no one has mentioned the following :-
Xerox & illumination
The Commercial Hippies
Hydrophonic
Eskimo
For me if it's not prog it's Psytrance -loud, very loud ! |
I  Psytrance .. VIVA LA TRANCE
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Posted: May 15 2009 at 12:27 |
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For psytrance, I've only heard a little, but I very much enjoy the genre. I'll check out some of those others that you mentioned.
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Roj
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 02:54 |
 Music Has The Right To Children arrived today!!!! I'll get to hear it in the next day or two and I'll report back then.
I love trance and particularly progressive trance. With a term like progressive trance, how could I not?
Jim mentioned System 7. I remember when I went to see The Orb back in about '94. Alex Paterson ( no relation!!) who was DJ-ing, played this awesome tune that I couldn't get out of my head. It turns out it was Alpha Wave by System 7. I still love that even now.
Back in my DJ-ing days a few people asked me if I was anything to do with The Orb, given my surname. How I wish!
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russellk
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Posted: May 18 2009 at 04:23 |
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^ Have you heard the 20-minute Richie Hawtin remix of Alpha Wave? (Plasticman Acid House mix.)
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Roj
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:01 |
russellk wrote:
^ Have you heard the 20-minute Richie Hawtin remix of Alpha Wave? (Plasticman Acid House mix.) |
Hi Russell, hope you're well.
The mix I had was on the vinyl album (DJ-friendly!!) and was definitely a Plastikman mix, but only a shortened one. I think the 20-minute version must have been the one played by Alex Paterson that I heard. It is some track!!
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:07 |
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I'm not actually sure what IDM is, but I really dig Aphex Twin.
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