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Posted By: Roj
Subject: The Intelligent Dance Music Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 08:32
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The search function indicated nothing like this has been done before (not surprisingly), so here goes.
What can I say. IDM/Electronica is one of my favourite genres of music. I was always a prog freak, but after prog rock had finally (apparently) died a death in the mid-late 80s I found IDM to be almost the new prog. Different rhythms, gorgeous soundscapes and truly challenging music. In short dance music (well some of it) that you have to think about too, with ambient and electronic textures a plenty.
Whilst I also fell hook line and sinker for trance and techno too, IDM was always my favourite. Hell, I even took up as a DJ back in the mid-late 90s!! Little did I know then that prog was making a real comeback unbeknown to me and I'm sure many others. I only really kept in touch with IQ and latterly Porcupine Tree during the 90s.
I think the album that really did it for me was The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld back in 1991. That was really groundbreaking, but with a progressive influence too.
Thanks to PA, I've discovered that prog is alive and well and I'm really delighted as it has completely changed my musical life. However, IDM is now ingrained in me and I listened to a lot of this music. I'd be interested to know if any other PA members are of a like mind.
My favourite bands/artists in this genre are:-
The Black Dog (surely the best and one of my top 10 band full stop)
Global Communication
The Orb
Reload
Spooky
Medway
Cass And Slide
System 7
Future Sound Of London
Aphex Twin
Sasha
There's more, but that'll do for starters.
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 09:24
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I love IDM, Breakcore, Glitch, GOA, Psytrance and all that kind of stuff. I also enjoy Dark Ambient, but that's another thread. Some of my favorites include: Boards of Canada Telefon Tel Aviv Venetian Snares (they should totally be in the archvies) Hallucinogen Shpongle Astral Projection Koxbox Squarepusher Aphex Twin a case could be made for late Ulver ... yea, wonderful stuff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent"> 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 09:39
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Much of William Orbit's 'Strange Cargo' output strikes me as deserving of belonging to this genre ?
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Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:05
LCD Soundsystem
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:21
| the ultimate my favorite IDM artist is Aphex Twin - this guy is unbelivable. Autechre , Future Sound of London, The Orb are also great |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 10:23
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^LCD Soundsystem rules.
I'll be the first to mention Autechre and The Field
My other favorites are Aphex Twin, Squarepusher and Boards of Canada ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 13:18
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is the Prodigy, Faithless and Basament Jaxx intelegent dance music (i have never herd that name bin used before.) i like some Dance and electronic music. as back in the days i used to be a DJ at the local disco (from i was 15 til i was 19 years) i playd House, Techno and other related genres. But sudenly my taste developed and i found Progrock and Metal. but i stil like the Prodigy  , Faithless, Basement Jaxx , Daft Punk, Jamiroqaui and some house and Progressive House, i like progy music |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 13:24
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been digging a lot of Boards of Canada and some Shpongle lately and of course, Aphex Twin and Squarepusher are still semi consistent listens |
Posted By: docsolar
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 15:30
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Surprised nobody mentioned Orbital yet...I think they're very intelligent/arty...
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 15:59
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"Flim" is probably the greatest song ever. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 17:08
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I second "Venetian Snares". Aaron Funk is great! ------------- 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 17:22
It's up there. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Moatilliatta wrote:Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 19:29
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Here are some in my collection, some spacey some poppy Autechre- ADSR- AFX- Air (and all the Pete Namlook collection!)- Altern 8- Amorphous Andrygenous- Anubian Lights- Art of Noise- Astralasia- Aurora (germany)- Babble- Banco di Gaia-Bassomatic- the Beloved- Bleep- Cabaret Voltaire- Camouflage- Delerium- Deep Space Network- Deep Forest- Divination- Era- Earth Nation- Elektrik Music- Electronic Eye- Eat Static- 808 State- the Fireman- John Foxx- Front Line Assembly- F.U.S.E.- FSOL- Paul Haslinger- Human Mesh Dance- Intermix- In the Nursery- Jam & Spoon- Richard Kirk- Laika- Moev- Moodswings- Mouth Music-Melting Euphoria- Midi Rain- William Orbit- Opus 3- Pentatonik- Plastikman- Polygon Window- Prototype 909- Sandoz- Riuichi Sakamoto- Spacetime Continuum- Spiral Realms- Sun Electric- Synergy- System 7- Didier Bocquet- Francois Szajner- Telex- Terre Thaemlitz- Sven Väth- Xylon- Zero Gravity- Yello- Yellow Magic Orchestra. comments? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: April 27 2009 at 19:46
Nice pick! My favorite IDM bands are Boards of Canada and Autechre -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 03:14
I'm really delighted to see the positive response so far -  to all.
It looks like I'm going to have to check out Boards Of Canada, almost a 100% recommendation for them. Has nobody else ever heard The Black Dog? They are (were) truly amazing. Bytes and Spanners are for me the best two IDM albums. Some of their stuff is so proggy they could easily be on PA as progressive electronic IMHO.
Incidentally, a nice mention for Sven Vath by Tszirmay.
And how could I forget Orbital. Their track "Semi Detached" is one of my all-time favourite tracks.
Thinking back, I think the track that really started it all for me was Papua New Guinea by FSOL, what a tune! Passion by Gat Decor hit the spot for me too
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 03:27
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I'm a big fan of Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares, and I'm going to pick up some Autechre and maybe Black Dog and Xanopticon. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: April 28 2009 at 08:52
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Sweet Ted Kaczynski sig. Should have quoted his proof of Wedderburn's Theorem though. It's much cooler. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 05:15
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I'd not heard of Boards of Canada before I started this thread. Almost everybody has mentioned them, so I had a read up about them and think they will be just my cup of tea.
Could anybody recommend where to start with Boards of Canada?
The same goes for Venetian Snares too.
One act I missed off my list was Plaid. They're great too.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 08:21
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I'm a huge fan, though it's kinda hard to separate what IDM is from dub, ambient, etc. sometimes, so I don't really know what I'm listening to... ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 10:09
Music Has the Right to Children is their most acclaimed. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent">
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 11:19
Thanks moe. I'll try and get that one.
Oh, by the way, like your avatar!
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 02 2009 at 03:10
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Music Has the Right to Children is the best non-prog album I've ever heard. Great thread, Roj M30. I'm convinced that the IDM scene is soaked in prog sensibilities. I've read interviews with Alex Paterson of The Orb where he namechecks all the prog bands - and is compared to Pink Floyd. Note that he collaborated with Fripp (though so does everyone, apparently it's compulsory) in the band FFWD, actually listed on this site. Of course, Steve Hillage put together System 7 which, while less demanding than the core IDM bands, is very Ozric Tentacles-like. All these are examples of how IDM is strongly prog-influenced. I tried approaching the electronic prog collaborators, but IDM wasn't their idea of prog, so we won't be seeing them here. But FSOL, The Orb, Aphex Twin, Plaid (an absolute must-listen, as is their parent band The Black Dog), Orbital (how can In Sides not be considered prog? Even the rock press called it progressive! A 26-minute version of The Box, for goodness' sake!!!) and many more. Have a listen to Sasha's 'Airdrawndagger' if you're not convinced. Or Underworld's 'Dubnobasswithmyheadman'. Sorry, I'm starting to froth at the mouth. IDM is a classic example of music that WOULD NOT HAVE EXISTED HAD PROG NOT EXISTED. It is 'prog-influenced' - prog leaks out of every pore. Every pore, I tell you!!! argh argh argh |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 05 2009 at 04:26
Well said Russell
it's great to hear someone has the same view as me concerning this music. You are absolutely right, without prog there would be no IDM. I am sure of that.Way back at the start of the 90s when I discovered what is now classed as IDM, I viewed it as new progressive music and I still do. There's so much influence and overlap, with a very modern twist.
I absolutely adore The Black Dog, they are one of my all-time favourite bands. I challenge anybody to listen to Psil-Cosyin from Spanners and tell me that's not prog. I have several of their albums, the best of which are Spanners and Bytes which I'd totally recommend. I've not checked out Plaid yet; that is my next objective along with Boards Of Canada and Venetian Snares.
The Orb is another favourite of mine. Their debut album reeks of prog, from the long blissful tracks to the cover art. One that all should hear is Oxbow Lakes by The Orb from Orbus Terrarum. It's not even electronic, it's pure symphonic prog!!
Sasha is another favourite of mine, both as an artist in his own right and as a DJ. Back in my DJ-ing days he was always the one to follow, playing those trancey tracks with IDM-crossover that no other DJs would touch. His Global Underground San Francisco is another all-time favourite of mine and with plenty of other IDM sits proudly on my MP3 alongside Floyd, TFK, ELP, PT, genesis et al
Great post Russell
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 05 2009 at 12:41
 That's what I have, minus ambient/drone. (obviously only some of that is IDM) ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: TripBalls
Date Posted: May 07 2009 at 21:19
| as much of a huge fan of prog I am, Audion's album Suckfish is one of my favorite albums ever |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 08:24
| i've heard The Black Dog - Spanners and i like it. very good electronica |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 10:34
You have very good taste
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 13 2009 at 06:28
Music Has The Right To Children - Boards Of Canada and Not For Threes - Plaid, now ordered by me  .
Also, interesting to note that Amorphous Androgenous are now on PA
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Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: May 13 2009 at 12:23
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Progressive Electronic should totally be added to the archive. \ EDIT: Well, I guess it is...but it's too nostalgic. I guess that's what you get with a bunch of aging, opinionated hippies. The genre has progressed further and needs some modernization. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent">
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 04:22
I think we should either have a specific "Berlin School" subgenre, or none at all. Aphex Twin, etc. and even BT make very freaking proggy music, not even in progressing terms. This Binary Universe is definitely one of the best ambient/progressive electronic albums I've ever heard. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Vicky Garten
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 06:32
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What - no one has mentioned the following :-
Xerox & illumination
The Commercial Hippies
Hydrophonic
Eskimo
For me if it's not prog it's Psytrance -loud, very loud ! ------------- Confusion will be my epitaph |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 06:58
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Fred Frith
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 07:08
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At the risk of damning the fledgling genre with faint praise, the best non prog album I have heard in the last 10 years, for someone who HATES DANCE MUSIC PASSIONATELY is 'We Strike' by Anima Sound System from 2006. It incorporates Eastern European folk idioms, Bartok, Kodaly, Janacek et al and ethnic instrumentation but somehow manages to transcend the whole 'world music' w**kfest into something infinetely more credible. Has anyone heard this adorable little Hungarian critter ? -------------
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 07:12
I'd definitely echo Eskimo & Xerox from Vicky's recommentations - another to look out for is Younger Brother (effectively Simon Posford under another name) - the album 'Last days Of Gravity' has a great chilled feel to it & is not 100 miles from Pink Floyd... System 7 are a great band - seen them many times, ditto Shpongle, OTT (another firm recommendation), Eskimo & Hallucinogen ------------- 
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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 11:54
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 Psytrance .. VIVA LA TRANCE |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: May 15 2009 at 12:27
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For psytrance, I've only heard a little, but I very much enjoy the genre. I'll check out some of those others that you mentioned. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent">
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 02:54
 Music Has The Right To Children arrived today!!!! I'll get to hear it in the next day or two and I'll report back then.
I love trance and particularly progressive trance. With a term like progressive trance, how could I not?
Jim mentioned System 7. I remember when I went to see The Orb back in about '94. Alex Paterson ( no relation!!) who was DJ-ing, played this awesome tune that I couldn't get out of my head. It turns out it was Alpha Wave by System 7. I still love that even now.
Back in my DJ-ing days a few people asked me if I was anything to do with The Orb, given my surname. How I wish!
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 18 2009 at 04:23
| ^ Have you heard the 20-minute Richie Hawtin remix of Alpha Wave? (Plasticman Acid House mix.) |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:01
Hi Russell, hope you're well.
The mix I had was on the vinyl album (DJ-friendly!!) and was definitely a Plastikman mix, but only a shortened one. I think the 20-minute version must have been the one played by Alex Paterson that I heard. It is some track!!
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Posted By: AlbertMond
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 03:07
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I'm not actually sure what IDM is, but I really dig Aphex Twin. ------------- Promotion so blatant that it's sad: 
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 19 2009 at 15:05
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^ IDM is a controversial term (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music) that, in my view, covers techno with progressive leanings. That is, electronic music focusing on loops and beats, but with prog structures. Songs are complex rather than just '4 on the floor' and progress: a track doesn't finish where it starts. Many of the artists are self-confessed prog lovers, and reviewers consistently refer to 70's prog bands like PINK FLOYD and TANGERINE DREAM when discussing them. APHEX TWIN produces material from a wide variety of electronic genres, and it is his more ambient material (like 'Selected Ambient Works') that make him of interest to progressive electronic fans. (Though his more straightforward stuff, like 'Come To Daddy' and 'Windowlicker' are a great deal of fun!) RojM30, the 20-minute mix was finally released in 2000 on the 'Alpha Wave' EP after years of fan agitation. I have a copy :) The 10-minute mix was widely available on the remix album 'System Express'. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 08:14
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^ That's great news Russell! Another one for the "to get" list.
I think the version I had was on an actual studio album (a bloody good one too) the name of which escapes me. I'll have to dig it out of storage
 and let you know which one.I was listening to my Aphex Twin Selected Ambient Works 85-92 the other day. The track Heliosphan still absolutely blows me away every time.
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 21 2009 at 15:23
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^ The original 'Alpha Wave' is on System 7.3 Fire, with an ambient mix on the companion System 7.3 Water. How's 'Music Has The Right To Children' going? It's probably different to what you were expecting ... I hope it sneaks up on you. 'Roygbiv' is the most beautiful 2 and a half minute track I've ever heard, and I've never heard anything quite like 'Telephasic Workshop'. The best track of all for me is 'Happy Cycling' - that seagull sound is amazing, and it has a totally prog ending. Sorry, I'm just going to take a cold shower. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 03:06
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Well I've finally got round to listening to Music Has The Right To Children for the first time this morning, well half of it anyway. It's fantastic stuff, right up my street!
An Eagle In Your Mind and Telephasic Workshop are stunning. I'd say they are most similar to The Black Dog (so far anyway) with that mixture of hypnotic rhythms and gorgeous backdrops, the difference being BOC's rhythms are more hypnotic, TBD's being more complex rhythms.
I will listen to the rest on my journey home tonight.
Seriously if anyone on this forum is into Boards of Canada but hasn't heard The Black Dog you simply MUST check out Bytes and Spanners.
Thanks to all for the recommendation
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 26 2009 at 21:14
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Has 'Not For Threes' arrived yet? Being such a fan of The Black Dog, I wonder what you'll make of Plaid (who are two-thirds of The Black Dog). To give others an idea of what Plaid (and IDM) is about, have a look at these excellent vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDnuZAL9ps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwOb4G6--xc (warning: this is disturbing) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVYzwXabAM They are as prog as it gets. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 02:51
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I've not listened to the Plaid album yet, I just had to stick on Boards Of Canada again this morning. That is one phenomenal album, probably the best new album I've heard this year (and I've heard a hell of a lot of new ones ). You're right Russell by the way, Happy Cycling is staggeringly good.
To put things in perspective I've recently got IQ's new album Frequency. Now I'm a huge IQ fan, and I'd been awaiting that for ages, but Music Has The Right... has made more of an impact on me, initially at least.
You know, it really brasses me off that bands like BOC and other IDM acts aren't on here. Their music is what I would call truly progressive. If post rock/math rock (where the link is very tenuous) is considered prog, I'd like to know how IDM isn't. I guess there's some people who are just stuck and won't try and venture out at all. It's their loss.
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: May 27 2009 at 11:45
Just to give you an idea how some stuff is connected ...
Anubian Lights ... is by Nik Turner ... with Hawkwind a lot.
Cabaret Voltaire has been in that scene since the 70's and then some ...
Eat Static ... This was/is Ozric Tentacles sister band. It started when 2 folks left the Ozrics.
Riuychi Sakamoto ... Oscar winner now as well. Started with Yellow Magic Orchestra in Japan. Has done some outstanding soundtrax as well. Also acted in various films. If you don't have "Beauty" in your prog collection you are not a proggy ... you are just a wannabe prog'r! And this guy loves to funk'it'up and then some!
Spiral Realms ... it's Simon House with his violin and synthesizers plazed and enveloped so much that you can't find him!
System 7 ... it's Steve Hillage and his wife
Yellow Magic Orchestra ... see above ... tighten up!
It actually makes a lot of sense in how Hawkwind went sonic ambient with some guitar stuff over it in Electric Tepee and It Is the Business of the Future ... and come up with some incredible stuff ... in some cases the hard rock over it in Electric Tepee is so out there that I'm not sure that most people can handle it ... it is excellent in every way otherwise.
Eat Static has opened more gigs for the Ozrics than anyone else ...
Pete Namlook ... learned a lot from Klaus Schulze I bet!
Paul Haslinger - played with Tangerine Dream for a couple of albums and toured with them.
Glo - This is Gilly Smith of Gong ... really nice with Steffi ... also get Electric Shiatsu
The Orb and The Future Sound of London I have not yet quite connected, but they are quite near the Gong/Hillage family of people ... who also have a lot of ambient trance stuff in their label ... and if you have not heard the glissando ambient stuff you are missing a treat.
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 28 2009 at 14:02
I understand how you feel, but it's not worth worrying about. Go and read the definition of Progressive Electronic on this site and you'll understand why they don't qualify. I respect the hard work the collaborators have done in this genre, but they have explicitly stated that while they are in charge IDM will not be admitted to the archives. That's their right, and so forth. Doesn't stop us enjoying the music, I guess, but it does make it more difficult for us to interest fellow proggers in music I know they'd enjoy more than (with respect) some of the borderline stuff that has made it here. Here's the argument I made a year ago. I've taken out references to the collaborators. Let me start with a hearty thank-you to the progressive electronic team, who have carried the progressive electronic genre squarely on their shoulders. They are very knowledgeable about the sort of music they classify as progressive electronic, and have done many hours of research and hard work on behalf of the members of ProgArchives. For this I can only applaud them. However, bearing in mind the inclusiveness at the heart of this great site, expressed succinctly by the site’s founder, I’d like to propose the genre should be expanded far beyond its current narrow limits. At the moment anything that is perceived as ‘New Age’ or ‘cheesy’ or ‘easy listening’ or ‘of the dancefloor’ is being rejected or at best placed in ‘Prog Related’ (e.g. VANGELIS). I’ve read carefully the ProgArchives definition of the genre. To sum up things, the progressive electronic subgenre is dedicated to intricate, moving, cerebral, intrusive electronic experiences that get involved in “kosmische”, dark ambient, (post) industrial, droning, surreal or impressionist soundscapes territories. This is very narrow! Fortunately for electronic music lovers, the genre is much more extensive than this extraordinarily narrow definition. Electronic music which has as its focus unusual and changing time signatures, avant-garde sound effects, retro instruments (such as Hammond organ, harpsichord or Moog) and complex interplays of melody and rhythm ought to be described as progressive. There are dozens of artists and hundreds of albums from the so-called ‘dance music’ scene, and from many other places, that meet these criteria. To the uninitiated the dance music scene is characterised by 4/4 beats and an absence of creativity, pandering to the mindless youth. However, this is to ignore the whole subgenre of IDM (intelligent dance music) and the many ambient artists spawned by the chill-out room. I direct the team’s attention to the excellent article in wikipedia (heaven forbid we use this source as reference, but it just so happens this article summarises the genre perfectly): Intelligent dance music (commonly IDM) is a genre name invented by the creators of an online mailing list to describe dance music of the 1980s and early 1990s which uses unusual and "weird" sounds, defies rhythmic convention, and is much harder to dance to than most forms of techno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music). In my view the major bands in the IDM movement are progressive. Here I offer evidence from the writings of professional reviewers: “‘Second Toughest In The Infants’ [UNDERWORLD, 1996] is nothing less than the interface of prog rock and beats, representing one of the most mature and frequently surprising records of the 1990s” (Daryl Easlea, 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die, Quintet Publishing, London, p790). “What PINK FLOYD and THE ORB share is, simply, an approach to music. They represent a rare triumph of aesthetics over ideology; the former punk ignoring proscriptions, listening to the prog rock dinosaurs, creating the music he likes” (David Bennun, Melody Maker, 1993). “[THE ORB’s] U.F.Orb reached #1 on the UK Albums Chart to the shock of critics, who were surprised that fans had embraced what journalists considered to be progressive rock” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.F.Orb, referencing ‘Sullivan, Caroline. "Breakdown", The Guardian, 1993-04-09). “Two months later, Phil and Paul released "The Box," a 28-minute single of orchestral proportions. It screamed of prog rock excess -- especially the inclusion of synth harpsichords -- and appeared to be the first misstep in a very studied career. The resulting In Sides, however, became their most acclaimed album, with many excellent reviews in publications that had never covered electronic music” (John Bush, Orbital, All Music Guide). “[APHEX TWIN’s] music is just prog rock for the 90's, or put another way, noodly old hippie sh*t with no grip on reality” (Mark Sutherland, New Musical Express, March 1995). “[FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON’s] latest release, The Isness, shows their ability to evolve from pure drum'n'bass to a more progressive rock sound that would surprise anyone who didn't already know they are capable of pretty much anything”(http://www.ugo.com/channels/music/features/bandsondemand/artist.aspx?artist=FutureSoundOfLondon&cat=electronica&full=Future%20Sound%20of%20London. Sighted 3 May 2008). The difficulty faced by those seeking to categorise such music is that the artists involved in the movement also indulged in more standard forms of electronic techno, house and trance. For example, the undeniably mainstream (but extraordinarily interesting) KLF sold more singles in the UK in the late 80s and early 90s than any other band, but also produced the seminal ‘Chill Out’ album: The album has many recurring musical elements, which unify and merge the parts into the collective whole, such that a part considered in isolation is incomplete despite its distinctiveness. Common characteristics of most parts include ethereal background synthesizers, the use of echo and pitch bend, samples of nature and transport, and the punctuation of soft synthesizer loops by sudden flourishes of harmonious sound. The Deep South is variously represented using original pedal steel contributions from Graham Lee and emotionally-charged samples of US radio broadcasts: an evangelist's sermon, a range of samples of a very intense salesman, and, in "Madrugada Eterna",[3] the detailed news report of a fatal road accident. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chill_Out) I’d find it impossible to characterise this album as anything other than progressive, yet very little else of the group’s extensive work is remotely progressive. This situation is further complicated by the offshoots of the KLF, including THE ORB, who produced a distinctive body of work seen as the logical successor to PINK FLOYD; and FFWD, a collaboration between members of THE ORB and ROBERT FRIPP (which appears in ProgArchives at http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2353). Ironically this purely progressive electronic band is listed under Jazz/Rock fusion! An example of the interconnectedness between traditional prog bands and progressive electronica is GUY PRATT, the bassist for the more recent post-WATERS incarnations of PINK FLOYD. He’s also a long-time THE ORB collaborator, writing some of their music and performing with them live and in the studio. Even more influential on THE ORB’s music was STEVE HILLAGE, formerly of GONG, who plays guitar on their studio albums and formed his own band, SYSTEM 7, with MIRQUETTE GIRAUDY. THE ORB has also collaborated with ROBERT FRIPP and BILL LASWELL, among many others. Notwithstanding the difficulties, an effort ought to be made to incorporate musicians and albums whose impact has filtered through into ProgArchives. Perhaps the most telling recent inclusion is BATTLES, a band with roots in the New York electronic scene (including DON CABALLERO, also included in ProgArchives). They are signed to Warp records, a label that is the stable of many of the world’s top progressive electronic acts. Their sound is not unlike others at Warp, and it beggars belief that BATTLES, a relative newcomer to IDM, should be listed here and the bands – such as AUTECHRE themselves – on whose shoulders BATTLES sit, are absent. Of course, like FFWD they came into ProgArchives through the back door: they are listed as Post Rock/Math Rock. The ‘progressive electronic’ genre is far too narrow as presently formulated to admit them. Ironically, the level of creativity and progressiveness in the IDM scene is a quantum leap ahead of electronic prog staples like TANGERINE DREAM and JEAN MICHEL JARRE. Perhaps my point can best be illustrated by the following seminal albums: KLF: Chill Out, 1990 BLACK DOG PRODUCTIONS: Bytes, 1993 APHEX TWIN: Selected Ambient Works 85-92, 1992 FUTURE SOUND OF LONDON: Lifeforms, 1994 ORBITAL: Snivilisation, 1993; In Sides, 1996 BOARDS OF CANADA: Music Has The Right To Children, 1999 THE ORB: Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld, 1991; U.F. Orb, 1993 UNDERWORLD: Dubnobasswithmyheadman, 1993; Second Toughest in the Infants, 1996 AUTECHRE: Tri Repetae++, 1995, Confield, 2001. Try dancing to any of that lot. As I said, this argument went nowhere. I'm articulate and can marshal an argument, and I'm knowledgeable about IDM. I fired my very best shots, and to their credit the team listened to the albums listed above, but rejected them all. Ah well, I tried. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 07:59
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^ Russell, that is one hell of a submission . You stated the case very well, and very eloquently. It's sort of what I'd like to have said too, but you put it much better than I could. If THOSE albums were heard and rejected....... well, what can I say?
As you mention, it's difficult to spread the word on PA, but fear not. I placed a poll in "general music discussions" yesterday entitled "which BOC?", meaning Blue Oyster Cult or Boards Of Canada. Last time I looked, there were 5 votes for Boards Of Canada, (including mine of course
) so there is some support here.I've listened to the Plaid album twice, and it's another great one. Not as immediate as the BOC album, but some great stuff on there, and on second spin more and more of it was getting to me. It's really comforting to know that 2/3 of The Black Dog make music just like The Black Dog. The opening track is absolutely out of this world, 8 minutes of the finest electronic progressive music you could ever hope to hear. Rakimou and Milh stand out too.
I guess that means I'll have to hoover up the rest of their albums - can't believe I'd not tried them out previously to be honest
 .One recommendation I've got for you is Reload, don't know if you've heard them. They were made up of the guys from Global Communication, Middleton and Pritchard. As far as I know, they only made one album, A Collection Of Short Stories and it's breathtaking. At times dark and industrial, but also some of the most stunningly beautiful music, with layers of gorgeous keyboards.
Time to go now.
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Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 29 2009 at 14:55
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^ Reload? Haven't heard it ... so I will track it down later this week. Thanks! Plaid are a little jazzier than TBD, IMO. If you enjoy 'Not For Threes' you'll love their subsequent albums. Also, if you can find it, Balil's 'Parasight' is an excellent 4-track EP. Balil was one of the three Black Doggers.
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: May 30 2009 at 00:06
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I love IDM and wish some artists in that field were included here on this site. Has anyone here heard Untilted by Autechre? This is the most prog-like electronic album I've ever heard. 8 lengthy songs where each track keeping mutating into one music idea into the next. There's even a song on there called "The Trees" (like Rush's)! |
Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: May 30 2009 at 14:08
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Excellent post, Russellk. Better than I could say it! --------------------------------- My favorite IDM artists include (in no particular order) Brothomstates Mira Calix Clark Diagram of Suburban Chaos Food For Animals Autechre Beans Two Lone Swordsmen Mouse on Mars Yvat Aphex Twin |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 30 2009 at 15:02
Absolutely. Untilted (love the title, I bet it frustrated a few downloaders) is an album that will stretch the prog listener. It's about as complex and challenging as music gets, along with most of Autechre's recent output. I suspect we're flogging a dead horse, but it relieves a stain on my soul to talk about it. I doubt that many people would deny the prog influence, after a few careful listens to leading examples of IDM. The question is, though: is it a separate genre with progressive decoration, or is IDM inherently progressive? I believe the latter. But while the PA definition remains as it is, progressive electronic here will continue to be patronised by a very few listeners (check just how many reviews progressive electronic albums get).
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: May 30 2009 at 16:30
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I got a copy of Untilted not too long ago. Because of the ridiculous amount of music I've been gathering lately, I've only had the chance to listen to it a couple of times. It definitely takes some time to grow on you and since I'm used to the Incunabula/Amber/Tri Repetae Autechre it's even more difficult to digest. Still, it's definitely good and I'm sure I'll love it in a couple more listens, considering it grew so much the second time around. I still need to check out Confield. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: May 31 2009 at 21:54
I really don't know how Autechre would be tolerated by most members on this site. I haven't been around long enough on this site to detect negative feeling towards progressive electronic artists. I think IDM artists could be placed into "progressive electronic" without warranting it's own category. The IDM artists listed in this thread are as innovative as bands like Tangerine Dream and Kraftwerk back in their day. Is Autechre prog though? I singled out Untilted because it has the lengthy compositions and movements within each track, something that isn't as pronounced on realeses by them before, or since. There are bands here that have only one or two truly prog albums in their history (Split Enz for example, most of their discography is pop). It would have to be on a band-by-band basis and not every IDM artist would be prog in my opinion (which is not to say that band or artist isn't good or innovative, just doesn't meet the traditional qualities of how progressive rock is defined). I think Autechre would qualify, but guys like Two Lone Swordsmen are too techno oriented, while Prefuse 73 too hip-hop (although all considered IDM!) |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 01:01
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^Prefuse 73 is one of the most progressive electronic artists I've ever heard. And heck, his new album art looks darn reminiscent of 70s prog. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 03:03
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Jumping in this thread a bit late, but wanted to add my .02$... Boards of Canada's Music Has the Right to Children is a 5 star album in a major way, absolutely love it!!! Also, Squarepusher, although my favorite album of his Music Is Rotted One Note has more in common with Bitches Brew than IDM. Aphex Twin...fantastic mood music, I often jam him when working at my 'puter. Prodigy's remix album The Dirtchamber Sessions, while maybe not strictly IDM is easily my favorite from them. One artist that again may not be strictly IDM, but still falls remotely in this category are remix masters Kruder & Dorfmeister...the K&D Sessions album has been a longtime favorite. Another (again, my not be considered pure IDM) I don't think has been mentioned is Leftfield, the Leftism album is phenominal. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Nipsey88/?chartstyle=myspace02" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:24
And you don't have Klaus Schulze in here?
Heathen!
Heathen!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:36
That's why Vangelis will be remembered and so many of these others won't! He even has an Oscar in his closet ... and last I heard only Mark Isham has one ... (I have to check it again ... but think he's the only new age artist worthy of mention) ...
Btw ... he never was New Age and never will be ... and he is way more classical music mind'ed that most people here care to admit and accept. In fact, along with Mike Oldfield and Klaus Schulze I would say that they are the 3 most important composers that will come out of these days ...
Vangelis was there playing his music and doing soundtrax before New Age was born as some commercial bs appeal to sell stuff ... and music that had as much soul as the broomstick on my mop in the kitchen! ... well, in all fairness, it does help clean the floor once in a while!
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 13:08
I'm not sure how accurate this really is ... You might want to sit through Fripp and Eno's " No Pussyfooting".
In general, I would say that different styles and things to do gave a lot of people some freedom that they otherwise lacked in the work they were doing ... In the case of Steve Hillage, he could be as free as he wanted and no one would mind ... and he could fly off the handle in the background in the guitar and no one would be the wiser for it ... and I think that finding out how well you can trip out and do things is one of the things that a lot of musicians like to try ... no one, not even you ... can sit here and honestly tell me that "No Pussyfooting" and the majority of the albums you mention here ... were "composed" and in that sense, it is liberating for many of these artists.
This is grossly unfair and somewhat distorted. These two people/artists never were into the dance scene and they create music for the senses, not just a dance floor. Like 5 years plus! At least Tangerine Dream and then Klaus Schulze!
Both of these had never been a part of the dance scene anyway, so it is weird to see them mentioned here. However, the credit they DO deserve is that the majority of the synthesizers and sequencing designs that became the staple of dance floor music, was designed and created by these people who were capable of testing these machines and wanted to do things with them ... that no one knew how to do ... but they were trying to figure it out.
But we do not want to take away from the creativity of the "dance floor" stuff ... because not all of it is mindless music ... and some of it is actually well thought out ... but it takes a lot more talent and ability to create a real piece of music ... than it does to create a dance piece ... which you can do with Abelton Live, and a couple of speakers and no talent whatsoever for music!
The electronic dance scene followed disco ... and it was a natural growth from the 4/4 beats and tripping sounds extended somewhat from that point ... and this is in 1975 or so ... around the time of the Saturday Night Fever thing ...
In those days, TD and Jarre and Vangelis were already playing and learning the synths ... and you might really spend some time reading up on the history of many of these classic synthesizers and even more important coming out soon (I hope) would be a massive history and outline from Roland, Korg and Yamaha ... who ... btw ... all have affinity with dancing and timing --- which is better suited to this kind of electronica than the other more free fluid and wheeling styles ... you know why? ... this is neat actually ... they all started with people that were working with clocks ...
So clocks and music come together and you have your genre ... but please don't discredit the others ... they are more classical music of today than they are anything else ... always respect the art ,... please.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 13:20
ORLY?  And then some...  (Dark Ambient not included -- separate folder) I categorize things seriously. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 15:45
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^ Nice, Stoney, nice. ^^ Moshkito, you extrapolate a great deal from a few short statements I've made. I won't argue against what you've said in a point-by-point fashion - there's more than enough of that here - but I will point out that if you read my JEAN MICHEL JARRE reviews you'll see I do hold much of his music in extremely high regard. In particular I'm entranced by his musique concrete album 'Zoolook' and the subsequent album 'Rendez-vous'. And TANGERINE DREAM were magnificent until the onset of Soundtrack Disease in the 1980s. Check out my reviews. I hold a special place in my heart for the maligned 'Cyclone'. I do not resile from my belief that IDM shows more creativity and progressiveness than either, however. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 15:51
I was under the impression IDM wasn't even dance music. How is one supposed to coherently dance to post Ambient Works Aphex Twin, exactly? 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 20:12
Stand-up seizures, basically. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 20:41
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Favorite Autechre releases (IMHO): Tri Repetae++ LP5 Untilted Favorite Autechre songs (in no particular order): "444" (from Incunabula) - perhaps my "all time" fave! "Simmm" (from Quaristice) "Notwo" (from Quaristice) "Vletrmx21" (from Garbage) - this track really creeps me out "Drane" (from Peel Sessions vol.1) "Rettic AC" (from Chiastic Slide) "Parhelic Triangle" (from Confield) - very twisted "Leterel" (from Tri Repetae) "Goz Quarter" (from Envane) - ooh, funky! "Yeesland" (from Cichli Suite) "Corc" (from LP5) - love the drum sound on this one "Sublimit" (from Untilted) - the ambient second half is amazing "Second Bad Vibel" (from Anvil Vapre) - how I discovered the band, a sentimental fave "VL AI 5" (from Draft 7.30) "Gantz Graf" (from Gantz Graf) - their most chaotic song? ...actually there's really many more! There's not too much Ae stuff I don't like!  |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: June 01 2009 at 21:07
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^444 is wonderful, but I think "Bike" is my personal favorite. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 02:07
Good to see Carbon Based Lifeform & Global Communication in there - staples of sets I play as a chillout DJ  -------------
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 08:09
Well said! 76:14 is one of my all-time favourite albums. A truly great ambient album.
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 08:11
This is an opinion I second completely, much as I love TD and Jarre.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: June 02 2009 at 09:06
Oh yes - the only ambient album which came close for a first listening "oh-wow" moment was Younger Brother's 'Last Days Of Gravity' - another stunner -------------
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 17 2009 at 05:41
This needed a bump.
Russell, did you manage to track down Reload?
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 20:44
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A while ago I was checkin' out the server on the network I'm on ( it's my neighbors) and I saw Aphex Twin in the music folder. Having read the name multiple times in this thread, and knowing that I somewhat trust his musical taste, I gave him a listen on last.fm. I've become somewhat of an addict to it since then. Too bad he's not on PA, I saw Aphex Twin listed as a shared band on Last.fm more than once in the Last.fm thread. |
Posted By: moe_blunts
Date Posted: August 17 2009 at 22:07
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I've been listening to quite a bit of the following: Stendeck Telefon Tel Aviv Xanopticon (more breakcore) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/moe_blunts/?chartstyle=minimalDarkRecent">
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 21 2009 at 02:40
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I love how eclectic Aphex Twin is, I never would expect an IDM artist to write music for the piano. Are there any other IDM bands like this? |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 29 2009 at 07:10
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Haven't visited this old friend in a while .
I recently got Trans Canada Highway by Boards Of Canada. I have to say that the opening two tracks are about as good as anything new that I've heard recently - fabulous stuff.
I really must check out Untitled by Autechre which is recommended by almost everybody.
Finally, I've lost touch with Aphex Twin a little in the last few years. What would anybody recommend as his best recent albums?
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 01:24
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^There hasn't been a new Aphex Twin album since 2001. But check that one out, drukqs, if you haven't already. Untilted is worth a listen. Not sure if I like it better than Confield, and I definitely don't like it as much as Incunabula or Tri Repetae, but it is an interesting album for sure. Like nothing I've heard before. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 07:59
Thanks for that Chris.
The last Aphex Twin I got was certainly before that one, Classics is the last one I got
.Incunabula is the only Autechre album I have, and that's certainly a good one.
Thanks for the recommendations
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 07:38
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My first visit to this thread in a while.
I've now completed the collection of Boards Of Canada's work, and I'd like to express my big thanks to Russell, Chris, Moe and everybody else who recommended them to me
. I am absolutely bowled over by just how good BoC are. All the albums and eps are absolutely fantastic. I find them hypnotic, nostalgic, addictive, invigorating, totally calming and truly progressive. The fact these guys are not on PA is the biggest mystery since the Marie Celeste. BoC are my best musical discovery of 2009 by an absolute country mile, and if anybody reading this is into the likes of Black Dog, Plaid, Aphex Twin etc., you simply have to give them a go.
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Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 12:24
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^ Thanks for digging up this thread, didn't know there was a dance thread on PA! I've always been fascinated by dance and techno, but know next to nothing about it so I will have some reading to do here. I never got further then Orbital, Underworld, Prodigy, Leftfield, Trentemöller, Squarepusher, Plaid, Photek The kind of stuff that dipped its toes in the 'mainstream' so to speak. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 13:36
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Here's the stuff I love and am familiar with: Aphex Twin Squarepusher Venetian Snares Orbital The Orb Boards of Canada Global Communication Future Sound of London I need more. ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 16:27
But there is the Analords series, although that's not really similar to Drukqs from what I hear. I tried to listen to Tri Repetae, and good lord, what an annoying album. Each song is good for the first minute and then I can't listen to it anymore because it is just the SAME THING. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 16:35
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^ Have you listened to Music Has the Right to Children yet? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: December 22 2009 at 22:00
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No, although the Boards of Canada songs on Youtube are better than I remembered, but it's still not quite there for me. I love the possibilities for new sounds in electronic music, but so much of the time they also have this commitment to repetition that I can't stand. ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: December 23 2009 at 00:44
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I hear what you're saying about Tri Repetae. The foundation is definitely repetitive, but when you're just relaxing to it on headphones you'll hear subtle sounds and what not creep in there, plus the panning is pretty neat. It's not an every-mood kind of album, but I rather like it every now and then. It also works well for background music. If you're looking for some good electronic music that isn't terribly repetitive you might look into Four Tet, Caribou, Prefuse 73 and some Squarepusher. They're not pure electronica though. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: December 23 2009 at 09:14
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Yeah, I'll join in this thread. I feel this genre is becoming more popular every day. I don't particularly like that fact, but hey, I love the music. Particularly Aphex Twin and Venetian Snares. Now these guys are really COMPOSERS, very talented indeed and deserve a lot of respect. I mainly listen to the breakcore type stuff, a la Squarepusher, Stunt Rock, Xanopticon and Blaerg, but AT is definitely exceptional. I love all their more f**ked up stuff. Check this out: "Spirit creature not wearing the shape of a man"... I love it! And the greatest thing is it's like an IDM soundtrack to someone's scariest nightmare, and if you ask me, that stuff is much more violent than some of the most brutal extreme metal I've heard. It's in 5/4 as well, which is cool. IDM kicks bootay. It's the future of underground music IMHO. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: February 05 2010 at 03:21
Bumped for FusionKing
.Having heard Tri Repetae several times (a Christmas present) I really like it. The first three tracks are really superb. Yes the tracks are somewhat repetitive, but as Chris says, listen for the interesting sounds that develop throughout the pieces.
Anybody got any recommendations for further Autechre albums for me to try out, other than Tri Repetae and Incunabula?
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: February 05 2010 at 11:57
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Confield. You've heard the best of their early works so it's time to check out their later ones. Amber gets a lot of love from fans, I think, but I don't find it to be worth your while.
Anyway, their later works are characterized by crazy splicing of beats and little melody (if any). For me Confield is the best of this period (Untilted is probably second). It's not for everyone, and as allmusic says about Confield, it's a record "to be respected, not enjoyed." However, some people do really see beauty or some other kind of personal pleasure listening to it. In any case, it's worth hearing. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 22 2010 at 12:54
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Needs more bump. I've been digging a lot of kinda more obscure IDM, my favorite of which has been http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/b12/time_tourist/ - B12 - Time Tourist. This kind of ambient techno/IDM is great and I'm always looking for recommendations. Anyone ready to get some more thread going? ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 24 2010 at 07:59
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Anyone home?
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Posted By: jeniffer
Date Posted: March 25 2010 at 05:49
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I watched the music video and its DAMN nice! But there ...when Timbaland and Katy Perry are dancing around, something else is ...
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 09:02
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To be honest I've been listening to this sort of stuff more than prog lately.
I just can't get enough of Boards Of Canada and Plaid. The two latest by The Black Dog are excellent too (after a period in the doldrums for TBD, one of my favourite bands of the last 15 years). I'd never even heard of Boards Of Canada a year or so ago. They are probably my all-time number 4 band now.
I don't know B12 I'm afraid stonebeard, that's another one for me to check out. However, the next new album I will get is definitely This Binary Universe by BT. I know his work but don't have this album and I notice everyone raves about it. So it's a must I reckon.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 26 2010 at 10:50
If he's not a fan of ambient or IDM, I can conceive of someone not liking it. Otherwise, it's an intensely beautiful album and only a fool would reckon it's not a work of progressive electronic music. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: June 25 2010 at 07:18
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Thought I'd visit this old friend.
It's great when one of your favourites starts to release albums every year. Yes I'm talking about The Black Dog's latest, Music For Real Airports, just out recently. That's three albums since 2008
 so I'm mighty pleased as all three are excellent. TBD have had a real rennaissance lately and it's fabulous to see. Honestly their effort from '09, Further Vexations was an absolute stunner of an album, easily better than anything since Spanners back in the early 90s.Music For Real Airports of course gives a nod and a wink to the Eno ambient classic, however this is totally different and for me TBD's effort is much superior. I have to say I found Eno's a bit boring to be honest
.It's the most ambient offering from TBD as they at least pay some sort of homage to Eno's album, however as it's laced with hypnotic rhythms there's much more on offer. There's a really dark and foreboding atmosphere throughout which is an interesting angle of how an airport experience. I find it a great listen. Ironically I reckon this album would have a better chance of persuading the Progressive Electronic. team to add TBD to PA, given the more ambient nature of the album.
How's everybody else at the moment?
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Posted By: catfood03
Date Posted: July 25 2010 at 20:53
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 25 2010 at 20:56
It's a great album. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 14:57
| Finally checking out Autechre these past few days. Good stuff. |
Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 24 2011 at 09:00
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You know when you dig out an album you've not heard in a long time, you know it's great but....you know a long time has passed. Well........dug out the Northern Exposure 2 cd by Sasha and Digweed today and have been listening to it all day. Blown away, totally blown away.
Now I had quite a few of the tracks from this album back in my dj-ing days, but never could I have woven these into such a fantastic, hypnotic, gorgeous seamless symphony of what I'd class as truly progressive electronic music. This really is stunning, totally awesome.
Other than that FSOL have been a major regular on my playlist lately.
How is everybody?
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 18:47
Had a similar experience with this disc last night, had the house to myself 'n' played it loud, don't think I've heard it in 3-4 years: Glitch-y ambient |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: March 25 2011 at 19:08
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This surely must have been mentioned before but for anyone who has not iven The Future Sound of London a try you should check them out they are great and their later stuff is a great crossover for fans of Space-Rock and Psychedellia ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: The Tourist
Date Posted: March 26 2011 at 22:25
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IDM is one of my favorite genres, and I'm a big fan of electronic music all together (just check out the avatar). I enjoy most of the artists mentioned so far, and I will definitely check out those which I am not familiar with. Anyone into minimal techno? It shares a lot of the elements found in IDM. Richie Hawtin (aka Plastikman, aka F.U.S.E) is fantastic. |