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lazland 
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 Posted: March 19 2009 at 13:34 |
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mr.cub
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:04 |
I don't think Pink Floyd is better than other bands of their generation, for that I go with Mozart
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The T
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:19 |
First off, to the thread starter... you can't buy Mozart "albums". There are no Mozart "albums". There are recordings of his music. We're not talking about a rock-pop artist that records "albums". Classical Composers wrote music. Later that music has been recorded in discs or vinyl. but those are recordings of their works, not "albums".
Second, really.... PF is great. Comparing it with Mozart, though.... A single Piano concerto holds more in melody, harmony and everything that the entire PF career.... or any rock band for that matter.
Third, while I would take Mozart to the deserted island, l haven't listened to his music in more than 2 years. PF, on the other hand, appears very constantly. Right now I enjoy it more. But to take it to a deserted island, it would eventually wore down... Mozart's music would give much more to discover....
So, no vote from me. Incredibly, I can't vote for Mozart since I don''t enjoy his music as much as PF's latekly.
 stonebeard wrote:
Pink Floyd.
New idea for an equally meaningful poll:
Which is better: VDGG or the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution?
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Actually the answer is simple. VDGG are an aberration of the theory of evolution. According to it, the weak dissappear, the strong prevail. That a band that has sold probably 7 albums in their career is still with us, is a complete offense to Darwin.... 
Though I'm still confused about the "punctuated equilibrium" theory... Let me read more...
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The Pessimist
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:35 |
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Mozart was one of the greatest musicians that ever lived. Pink Floyd are good musicians, but in the entire context of music in general, they cannot possibly size up to one of the giants like Mozart.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:39 |
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Not particularly a fan of Mozart of Classical Music in general. IMO the transition from Baroque to Romantic had a weak period in between.
So Pink Floyd.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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someone_else
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 15:34 |
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Nothing against Mozart, but Pink Floyd is, so to speak, a native favourite of mine.
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micky
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 17:15 |
sorry Mozart.... you're overrated as well 
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keiser willhelm
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 18:06 |
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ive been a fan of classical music for quite a long time and have played the piano since the age of 6 so i am quite familiar with mozart. aside from requiem and a few assorted concertos and choral works i am not a fan. along the lines of what TGMorb said. too happy, peppy, and poppy.
Since this is a poll strictly about preference and not whom you think is more important or the better musician then i have no qualms about voting floyd here. Ummagumma - Animals. what a streak of incredible music.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 19:01 |
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Well, I barely listen to Pink Floyd nowadays.
And honestly, I'd wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy rather listen to Romantic era stuff like Chopin, Liszt, Schumann etc as I find the Classical era is just really dull sounding compared to the Romantic stuff.
I'd vote Floyd, if only because I find no reason to really listen to Mozart at all.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:18 |
I never liked Mozart much, and I'm sad he is becoming the definitive classical composer over Beethoven.
CPicard wrote:
Are you mad or what? What is this kind of sick cultural relativism? Pink Floyd VS. Mozart? Seriously, how can one discuss a rock band over one of the most important composer of European culture?
What is next? "Do you prefer the "Watchmen" or the "Eneide"? "Bill Paterson or Michelangelo"?
I could understand a poll opposing Mozart to Haydn, Beethoven to Schubert or other composers. But this poll is arguably one of the most debatable thing I ever read on this forum.
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But I thought all music was equal?
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:56 |
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But you see Mozart is very old and lots of people with Ph.D. who know more about what we should enjoy in music have written a thesis about him so therefore it is ridiculous to enjoy a lowly rock band over his immutable genius.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:08 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
But you see Mozart is very old and lots of people with Ph.D. who know more about what we should enjoy in music have written a thesis about him so therefore it is ridiculous to enjoy a lowly rock band over his immutable genius. |
Well, personally, I'm generally in favor of cultural elitism, but I'm trying to figure out whether or not we subscribe to it, or don't, or we do but I'm just not supposed to say that Led Zeppelin and classic rock sucks (it really does). Maybe because I enjoy listening to the feedback from an apple in a saxophone I'm irrelevant to the whole discussion.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:17 |
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So sorry to hear that, the Led Zeppelin thing not the apple in saxophone.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:19 |
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Unfortunately, yes. But I will not rest until all songs have an applephone solo.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Nuke
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:21 |
Mozart. If we're talking about who's better, this isn't even up for debate, but if it is personal preferences, then I can see how people prefer music that is closer to their frame of reference. I don't understand all this trash talk about Mozart, because he really is one of the greatest composers of all time. His music was poppy, sure, but distate for all things poppy is your problem, not the music's. To make melodies powerful enough that people are still humming them 300 years later is a good thing, not a bad thing. He might seem rather tame in comparison to the romantic composers, but from the context of his time, he was actually quite untame. He really bent the rules a lot in his music. Maybe not to the degree of beethovan, but heck, is this a mozart vs beethovan or mozart vs pink floyd poll? That's what I thought 
Edited by Nuke - March 19 2009 at 23:22
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:24 |
Nuke wrote:
His music was poppy, sure, but distate for all things poppy is your problem, not the music's. |
442 Plays: SHAKIRA?
Edited by Henry Plainview - March 19 2009 at 23:24
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Drew
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Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:31 |
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Mozart easily. I love Floyd too.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 00:51 |
micky wrote:
sorry Mozart.... you're overrated as well
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And to the likes of a band called Pink Floyd...............what was ol' Mozart thinking?
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Peter
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 01:00 |
Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day?  "Dragged down by the stone...."  To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances!
Edited by Peter - March 20 2009 at 01:08
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.
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prog4evr
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Posted: March 20 2009 at 01:43 |
Roj M30 wrote:
...Mozart...his style of classical is much too "poppy" for my taste. Give me the emotion of Rachmaninov....
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Despite the misgivings of this so-called apples-and-oranges comparison, I agree with you, Roj M30. Applying the metaphor of today's music to classical music, Mozart is "pop" and Rachmaninov is "sublime." I play the CD of Ashkenazy playing Rach 2 and 3 (recorded by Decca in 1963) at least 3 times a month - just to experience the emotion again. Very few great songs of the last 40 years of prog do that to me in the same way...
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