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Topic: Pink Floyd v Mozart
Posted By: ten years after
Subject: Pink Floyd v Mozart
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 04:13
Inspired by a question raised in the resurrected Frank Zappa v Miles Davis poll, do you prefer to listen to Pink Floyd or to Mozart.
 
Personally, if i were allowed to take 6 albums by the two artists to a desert island, at least 5 of them would be by Pink Floyd.  Which isn't to say that I don't like Mozart it's just that in general I prefer prog rock to classical music and Pink Floyd is nearly as good as it gets.



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Posted By: Octavian
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 04:53
I'd rather listen to Mozart over Pink Floyd.


Posted By: Hootywho
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:26
Originally posted by Octavian Octavian wrote:

I'd rather listen to Mozart over Pink Floyd.


Same here, If Pink Floyd is playing, I won't change the song but given the choice, I'd listen to Mozart.


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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:50
Neither are my favourites (both have fantastic moments!), but considering this desert island matter, I'd go for Mozart.


Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 06:48
Floyd for me.


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 06:51
Floyd for me to, but I am sure that in 200 years time both will still be listened to as different sub genres of "classical" music.

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Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 07:58
I don't like Pink Floyd, but I really do not like Mozart. So I chose FloydTongue


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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 08:03
Whilst Mozart was undoubtedly a child genius, and I can see his music is very popular, his style of classical is much too "poppy" for my taste.  Give me the emotion of Rachmaninov or the depth of Bruckner any day.
 
On the other hand, Floyd have always been one of my favourite bands, so I'll vote Floyd.


Posted By: Captain Capricorn
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 08:14
Mozart was without a doubt the greater musical mind, but given the century in which I live, I can find more common ground with PF ...I think I'm still gonna go with Mozart on this one...


Posted By: poslednijat_colobar
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 08:19
I prefer to listen to Pink Floyd, rather Mozart! I just don't listen to classical music in that part of my life and I don't understand it enough well.


Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 08:37
I don't really like Mozart. Love Beethoven, Rachmaninov, Liszt, Stravinsky etc.

Don't like Mozart.


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:20
Mozart "poppy"? Have you tried the Requiem, his mature piano concertos or LE NOZZE DI FIGARO? Sure, I enjoy the Floyd, but they don't even come CLOSE.


Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:29
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Mozart "poppy"? Have you tried the Requiem, his mature piano concertos or LE NOZZE DI FIGARO? Sure, I enjoy the Floyd, but they don't even come CLOSE.
 
I've heard loads of symphonies and concertos by Mozart, and I stick to what I said.  I can't profess to having heard everything by Mozart, after all to say he was prodigious is putting it mildly!!  I think what I said is accurate though.  My mother played Beethoven, Mozart, Rachmaninov and Tchaikovsky all the time when I was a child, so I think I've heard enough to be fully entitled to my opinion. 


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:37
Pink Floyd.


New idea for an equally meaningful poll:

Which is better: VDGG or the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution?


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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:55
i am floyd fan, so pick  Pink Floyd  easily with no hesistations.. mozart is ok, but Floyd man.. 


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 11:15
Are you mad or what? What is this kind of sick cultural relativism? Pink Floyd VS. Mozart? Seriously, how can one discuss a rock band over one of the most important composer of European culture?
What is next? "Do you prefer the "Watchmen" or the "Eneide"? "Bill Paterson or Michelangelo"?

I could understand a poll opposing Mozart to Haydn, Beethoven to Schubert or other composers. But this poll is arguably one of the most debatable thing I ever read on this forum. 


Posted By: Scoppioingola
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 11:45
Are you mad or what? What is this kind of sick cultural relativism? Pink Floyd VS. Mozart? Seriously, how can one discuss a rock band over one of the most important composer of European culture?

I absolutely agree with you.


Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 11:48
Yes, this is certainly one of those "apples to oranges" comparisons.......or rather "apples to jackhammers" maybe.  There is simply no comparison, no common ground outside of the fact that both created music in some fashion.

However, if we're talking personal preference, I suppose I'd go with Floyd simply because I don't listen to classical all that often (and I enjoy other composers more than Mozart for the most part).  If we're talking about who has contributed more to music, Mozart would win without any room for argument.  If we're talking about which is better, which is a completely subjective notion, I'd go with Mozart.

Silly poll.


Posted By: mono
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 12:06
Probably the stupidest poll I've seen here. Plus, Mozart is way overrated...
I can't believe 35 people have voted.


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Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 12:54
Floyd has two incredible albums under their belt: DSOTM and WYWH, and I simply worship both... but come on!!!

Mozart wins quite easily.


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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 13:34
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Pink Floyd.


New idea for an equally meaningful poll:

Which is better: VDGG or the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution?


Is that the one with full stops and commas?ConfusedConfusedConfusedConfused


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Posted By: mr.cub
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:04

I don't think Pink Floyd is better than other bands of their generation, for that I go with Mozart



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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:19
First off, to the thread starter... you can't buy Mozart "albums". There are no Mozart "albums". There are recordings of his music. We're not talking about a rock-pop artist that records "albums". Classical Composers wrote music. Later that music has been recorded in discs or vinyl. but those are recordings of their works, not "albums".
 
Second, really.... PF is great. Comparing it with Mozart, though.... A single Piano concerto holds more in melody, harmony and everything that the entire PF career.... or any rock band for that matter.
 
Third, while I would take Mozart to the deserted island, l haven't listened to his music in more than 2 years. PF, on the other hand, appears very constantly. Right now I enjoy it more. But to take it to a deserted island, it would eventually wore down... Mozart's music would give much more to discover....
 
So, no vote from me. Incredibly, I can't vote for Mozart since I don''t enjoy his music as much as PF's latekly.
 
 
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Pink Floyd.


New idea for an equally meaningful poll:

Which is better: VDGG or the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution?


Actually the answer is simple. VDGG are an aberration of the theory of evolution. According to it, the weak dissappear, the strong prevail. That a band that has sold probably 7 albums in their career is still with us, is a complete offense to Darwin.... Tongue
 
Though I'm still confused about the "punctuated equilibrium" theory...  Let me read more...


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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:35
Mozart was one of the greatest musicians that ever lived. Pink Floyd are good musicians, but in the entire context of music in general, they cannot possibly size up to one of the giants like Mozart.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 14:39
Not particularly a fan of Mozart of Classical Music in general. IMO the transition from Baroque to Romantic had a weak period in between.

So Pink Floyd.


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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 15:34
Nothing against Mozart, but Pink Floyd is, so to speak, a native favourite of mine.


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 17:15
sorry Mozart.... you're overrated as well LOL

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Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 18:06
ive been a fan of classical music for quite a long time and have played the piano since the age of 6 so i am quite familiar with mozart. aside from requiem and a few assorted concertos and choral works i am not a fan. along the lines of what TGMorb said. too happy, peppy, and poppy.
Since this is a poll strictly about preference and not whom you think is more important or the better musician then i have no qualms about voting floyd here. Ummagumma - Animals. what a streak of incredible music.


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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 19:01
Well, I barely listen to Pink Floyd nowadays.
And honestly, I'd wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy rather listen to Romantic era stuff like Chopin, Liszt, Schumann etc as I find the Classical era is just really dull sounding compared to the Romantic stuff.

I'd vote Floyd, if only because I find no reason to really listen to Mozart at all.


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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:18
I never liked Mozart much, and I'm sad he is becoming the definitive classical composer over Beethoven.
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Are you mad or what? What is this kind of sick cultural relativism? Pink Floyd VS. Mozart? Seriously, how can one discuss a rock band over one of the most important composer of European culture?
What is next? "Do you prefer the "Watchmen" or the "Eneide"? "Bill Paterson or Michelangelo"?

I could understand a poll opposing Mozart to Haydn, Beethoven to Schubert or other composers. But this poll is arguably one of the most debatable thing I ever read on this forum. 
But I thought all music was equal?

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 21:56
But you see Mozart is very old and lots of people with Ph.D. who know more about what we should enjoy in music have written a thesis about him so therefore it is ridiculous to enjoy a lowly rock band over his immutable genius. 

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:08
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

But you see Mozart is very old and lots of people with Ph.D. who know more about what we should enjoy in music have written a thesis about him so therefore it is ridiculous to enjoy a lowly rock band over his immutable genius. 
Well, personally, I'm generally in favor of cultural elitism, but I'm trying to figure out whether or not we subscribe to it, or don't, or we do but I'm just not supposed to say that Led Zeppelin and classic rock sucks (it really does). Maybe because I enjoy listening to the feedback from an apple in a saxophone I'm irrelevant to the whole discussion.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:17
So sorry to hear that, the Led Zeppelin thing not the apple in saxophone. 

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 22:19
Unfortunately, yes. But I will not rest until all songs have an applephone solo.

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Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:21
Mozart. If we're talking about who's better, this isn't even up for debate, but if it is personal preferences, then I can see how people prefer music that is closer to their frame of reference. I don't understand all this trash talk about Mozart, because he really is one of the greatest composers of all time. His music was poppy, sure, but distate for all things poppy is your problem, not the music's. To make melodies powerful enough that people are still humming them 300 years later is a good thing, not a bad thing. He might seem rather tame in comparison to the romantic composers, but from the context of his time, he was actually quite untame. He really bent the rules a lot in his music. Maybe not to the degree of beethovan, but heck, is this a mozart vs beethovan or mozart vs pink floyd poll? That's what I thought Wink

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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:24
Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

His music was poppy, sure, but distate for all things poppy is your problem, not the music's.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 19 2009 at 23:31
Mozart easily. I love Floyd too. 

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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 00:51
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

sorry Mozart.... you're overrated as well LOL


And to the likes of a band called Pink Floyd...............what was ol' Mozart thinking?Wink


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 01:00
Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL


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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 01:43
Originally posted by Roj M30 Roj M30 wrote:

...Mozart...his style of classical is much too "poppy" for my taste.  Give me the emotion of Rachmaninov....
 

Despite the misgivings of this so-called apples-and-oranges comparison, I agree with you, Roj M30.  Applying the metaphor of today's music to classical music, Mozart is "pop" and Rachmaninov is "sublime."  I play the CD of Ashkenazy playing Rach 2 and 3 (recorded by Decca in 1963) at least 3 times a month - just to experience the emotion again.  Very few great songs of the last 40 years of prog do that to me in the same way...


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 04:06
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Are you mad or what? What is this kind of sick cultural relativism? Pink Floyd VS. Mozart? Seriously, how can one discuss a rock band over one of the most important composer of European culture?
What is next? "Do you prefer the "Watchmen" or the "Eneide"? "Bill Paterson or Michelangelo"?

I could understand a poll opposing Mozart to Haydn, Beethoven to Schubert or other composers. But this poll is arguably one of the most debatable thing I ever read on this forum. 


We can discuss a rock band over one of the most important composers of European culture because first and foremost, this is an internet forumWink
There are no hard and fast rules saying that you can only pit a classical composer against another classical composer.
Some people are elitists and will only listen to certain music because of 'high cultural' level.
For the rest of us, we go based on how much we enjoy the music and how much it emotes to us, regardless of how technical, how complex and how 'high class' it is.
Music is not a sport, it is not about out doing each other with how technical it can be, how complex the compositions are and how 'intellectual' it is.
And because of this I can comfortably say I'd rather listen to Linkin Park's debut album instead of some of Mozart's pieces.



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Posted By: sweetleaf
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 13:31
This was a great question and for once a poll I had to think long and hard about... however I went with Pink Floyd... because if there was no Mozart there may still have been Bach or Beethoven. But if their was no Pink Floyd I can't imagine what my foundations in rock music would have been. That was tough, in fact I still am not sure I made the right decision.


Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 14:53
Vote for Floyd
 
Because  i like their music
 
and is a prog forum
 
Silli poll....LOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: claugroi
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 15:15
One of the best Prog bands vs one of the best classical composers. Two completely different things, I can't compare.

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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 16:55
i think poll wasn't  to compare the artists but just say which of the two you like more.  


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 21:02
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Yes, this is certainly one of those "apples to oranges" comparisons.......or rather "apples to jackhammers" maybe.  There is simply no comparison, no common ground outside of the fact that both created music in some fashion.

However, if we're talking personal preference, I suppose I'd go with Floyd simply because I don't listen to classical all that often (and I enjoy other composers more than Mozart for the most part).  If we're talking about who has contributed more to music, Mozart would win without any room for argument.  If we're talking about which is better, which is a completely subjective notion, I'd go with Mozart.

Silly poll.
 
In what way is it a silly poll?
 
If you read the question it quite clearly asks who you prefer, not who is best or has contributed most. 
 
It is perfectly logical on a prog forum to ask whether people prefer to listen to the most famous prog band or the most famous classical composer.  Especially because prog has often sought to merge the two genres.


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 21:17
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL
Wink Ahem....


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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: March 20 2009 at 21:26
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

First off, to the thread starter... you can't buy Mozart "albums". There are no Mozart "albums". There are recordings of his music. We're not talking about a rock-pop artist that records "albums". Classical Composers wrote music. Later that music has been recorded in discs or vinyl. but those are recordings of their works, not "albums".
  
 
This is just plain wrong.  Dark Side of the Moon is an album which contains a recording of one of Pink Floyd's works.  This is exactly the same principle as an album of , say, The Marriage of Figaro which contains a recording of one of Mozart's works. 
 
The only difference is that in one case the composers were physically involved in making the recording whereas in the other case he wasn't.  This doesn't stop it being a Mozart album.


Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 02:10
Just because there are Mozart albums doesn't mean you should talk about his work in the form of albums.
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL
Wink Ahem....
We read it the first time. Some people would rather be unhappy! :P
 
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Posted By: InvisibleUnicorns
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 02:26
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Just because there are Mozart albums doesn't mean you should talk about his work in the form of albums.


This.  You can call an album of Mozart's music a Mozart album, but it's not a Mozart album in the same fashion as DSOTM is a Pink Floyd album, since Mozart did not specifically arrange the track order to constitute an album.

Any Mozart album would have to be placed on the same status as a Pink Floyd compilation, in essence.


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 03:06
Originally posted by InvisibleUnicorns InvisibleUnicorns wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Just because there are Mozart albums doesn't mean you should talk about his work in the form of albums.


This.  You can call an album of Mozart's music a Mozart album, but it's not a Mozart album in the same fashion as DSOTM is a Pink Floyd album, since Mozart did not specifically arrange the track order to constitute an album.

Any Mozart album would have to be placed on the same status as a Pink Floyd compilation, in essence.
 
If I take DSOTM to a desert island i am taking a single Pink Floyd work on a CD.  Convention has taken to call this an album. 
 
A Mozart opera would also be a single work sold as a CD.  Conventionally it isn't called an album but in the end it is just the same.  
 
If the (double) CD contained 9 consecutive Mozart symphonies I still don't have any problem with calling it an album.  It would be similar in nature to Ummagumma which also contains 9 separate works which were in no way conceived as a single entity.


Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 04:27
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL
Wink Ahem....

man, if i would be stuck on 53 desert islands consecutively ,i would still listen Pink Floyd all day long than Mozart. you can be sure for that. i don't care about lyrics at all.  Their music captures me .. 


Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 06:02
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL


I'd love to listen to PF lyrics all day if I were stuck on a desert islaneBig smile



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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 06:03
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by InvisibleUnicorns InvisibleUnicorns wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Just because there are Mozart albums doesn't mean you should talk about his work in the form of albums.


This.  You can call an album of Mozart's music a Mozart album, but it's not a Mozart album in the same fashion as DSOTM is a Pink Floyd album, since Mozart did not specifically arrange the track order to constitute an album.

Any Mozart album would have to be placed on the same status as a Pink Floyd compilation, in essence.
 
If I take DSOTM to a desert island i am taking a single Pink Floyd work on a CD.  Convention has taken to call this an album. 
 
A Mozart opera would also be a single work sold as a CD.  Conventionally it isn't called an album but in the end it is just the same.  
 
If the (double) CD contained 9 consecutive Mozart symphonies I still don't have any problem with calling it an album.  It would be similar in nature to Ummagumma which also contains 9 separate works which were in no way conceived as a single entity.


Not albums.

Originally posted by InvisibleUnicorns InvisibleUnicorns wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Just because there are Mozart albums doesn't mean you should talk about his work in the form of albums.


This.  You can call an album of Mozart's music a Mozart album, but it's not a Mozart album in the same fashion as DSOTM is a Pink Floyd album, since Mozart did not specifically arrange the track order to constitute an album.

Any Mozart album would have to be placed on the same status as a Pink Floyd compilation, in essence.


I shall third this.


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 09:19
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL
Wink Ahem....

man, if i would be stuck on 53 desert islands consecutively ,i would still listen Pink Floyd all day long than Mozart. you can be sure for that. i don't care about lyrics at all.  Their music captures me .. 
 
Smile I love the music too, and normally I'm fine with Floyd's darker lyrics, but lyrics do mean a lot to me, and I just think, in that situation, they'd depress me.
 
'Home, home again...." Cry
 
'I've always been mad...."  ConfusedWacko LOL
 
Perhaps the situation seems worse to a married man who has children (like myself). I'd be terribly lonely for my family. The (normally sprightly) Mozart might help me endure the awful situation better.
 
At home, of course, I listen to Floyd far more often than ol' Wolfgang Amadeus. Mozart is good music for studying, writing, reading, etc. -- music with (English) lyrics interferes with my concentration upon the words on the page.


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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 09:31
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Love 'em both, but for the proposed desert island scenario, I think I'd tire of the Floyd much sooner than I would the Mozart.
 
 
 
And all alone like that, on a desert island, do you really want to be listening to a lot of Floyd lyrics every day? Confused "Dragged down by the stone...."  Unhappy To say nothing of "and in the end you'll pack up and fly down south -- hide your head in the sand. Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." Cry
 
^ Not exactly uplifting, given the circumstances! LOL
Wink Ahem....

man, if i would be stuck on 53 desert islands consecutively ,i would still listen Pink Floyd all day long than Mozart. you can be sure for that. i don't care about lyrics at all.  Their music captures me .. 
 
Smile I love the music too, and normally I'm fine with Floyd's darker lyrics, but lyric do mean a lot to me, and i just think, in that situation, they'd depress me.
 
'Home, home again...." Cry
 
'I've always been mad...."  ConfusedWacko LOL
 
Perhaps the situation seems worse to a married man who has children (like myself). I'd be terribly lonely for my family. The (normally sprightly) Mozart might help me edure the awful situation better.
 
At home, of course, I listen to Floyd far more often than ol' Wolfgang Amadeus. Mozart is good music for studying, writing, reading, etc. -- music with (English) lyrics interferes with my concentration upon the words on the page.

and that changes  the situation radicaly. you will miss your family a lot.. not even Mozart will help you Wink
unlike me, am not married ..so floyd will be enough for me.   i am not a such person .. i don't focus on lyrics .. 



Posted By: Nuke
Date Posted: March 21 2009 at 10:41
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by Nuke Nuke wrote:

His music was poppy, sure, but distate for all things poppy is your problem, not the music's.

442 Plays: SHAKIRA?

My guilty pleasure Embarrassed (to be fair though, she is probably the best mainstream pop artist right now...)



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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: March 22 2009 at 16:32
Was the question which you prefer or which would be more suited to sanity in a desert island situation? 

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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: March 22 2009 at 17:28
Originally posted by OT Räihälä OT Räihälä wrote:

Neither are my favourites (both have fantastic moments!), but considering this desert island matter, I'd go for Mozart.
 
How close is the nearest desert island to you?


Posted By: Floydoid
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 12:56
Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

Floyd has two incredible albums under their belt: DSOTM and WYWH, and I simply worship both... but come on!!!

Mozart wins quite easily.


There's no getting away from the fact they both composed some mighty fine tunes tho.


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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: March 23 2009 at 12:58
Originally posted by Floydoid Floydoid wrote:

Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

Floyd has two incredible albums under their belt: DSOTM and WYWH, and I simply worship both... but come on!!!

Mozart wins quite easily.


There's no getting away from the fact they both composed some mighty fine tunes tho.


True. One died far too young and long ago and the other imploded. I appreciate both for what they have given us. I think Mozart would have fit in fine with the 20th century prog scene.


Posted By: Arachnid1111
Date Posted: March 28 2009 at 21:34
Both are just spectacular!
 
I would Listen to pink floyd on my free time more though =]
 
 


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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 05:28
I voted Mozart, but would choose Floyd. Because I am fun like that. My question is.. what the hell would you play these albums with on a desert island? I mean, I'd be hard pressed to find an electrical outlet somewhere. Maybe, melt some sand into glass, use the glass as a ramshackle energy conductor with water wheels and all sorts of fancy gadgetry from all the best sci-fi B movies? 


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 05:56
For sheer quantity, Mozart.  For proximity, Floyd.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 29 2009 at 15:39
Well, you know, Wish you were here is nich and Dark side very good too... but... c´mon, you don´t f**k around when it comes to Mozart!LOL

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Posted By: LeStaf
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 13:29
Originally posted by Octavian Octavian wrote:

I'd rather listen to Mozart over Pink Floyd.
 
How dare you post such an eclectic poll?  LOL
 
These two musics are so far away one from the other that it just not honest to answer it.  It's all in the mood, and everyone knows mood's for a day.  Yes, indeed.


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Posted By: nmccrina
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 13:38
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:



Which is better: VDGG or the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution?


the punctuated equilibrium theory of evolution Stern Smile


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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 30 2009 at 14:27
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Mozart "poppy"? Have you tried the Requiem, his mature piano concertos or LE NOZZE DI FIGARO? Sure, I enjoy the Floyd, but they don't even come CLOSE.

or "Don Giovanni", the greatest of all operas. Mozart is not poppy at all. it is true though that he can easily be played "poppy", at least some of his works. for example, the "Rondo alla Turca", but that is only the 3rd movement of his piano sonata No. 11. it is not Mozart's fault that some radio stations will play that movement only instead of the whole sonata, thus giving the impression he was "poppy", and so with many others of his works


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Posted By: sydbarrett2010
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 15:50
that's a silly  poll
but pink floyd gets my vote


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 17:20
Mad (but surprisingly successful) poll! Can we compare apples with melons? I think to creating a madder poll yet. Something like "King Crimson vs. Pavarotti"...LOL

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 17:41
I also think Pink Floyd could destroy Mozart with their lasers.  Wolfie didn't have access to any electronics if I'm not mistaken. Tongue

Then again maybe the OP was referring to some sort of lawsuit none of us are aware of...


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 17:53
This is exactly the thread that had to be resuscitated....  Confused 

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Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 17 2010 at 20:37
Well I, for one, am glad the OP posted this poll. It tells me a lot about the membership of PA. Yeah, it's like comparing http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68783&KW=apples - but we learn a lot about people by what they choose and sayBig smile

I voted for the musical genius.


Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 09:40
Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

Well I, for one, am glad the OP posted this poll. It tells me a lot about the membership of PA. Yeah, it's like comparing http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68783&KW=apples - but we learn a lot about people by what they choose and sayBig smile

I voted for the musical genius.


Good to see you love Roger Waters, too.


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 10:22
What a silly poll.

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Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 10:39
Pink Floyd, personally Mozart makes me sleepy but it's nothing personal.  He really did change a lot of music for the better.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 10:55
Beethoven

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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 10:57
I think this is absurd. PF never can come close to Mozart. Mozart is a pure genius, just like Beethoven, Brahms, Scriabin, Liszt, Chopin, Mendelssohn, Bach, D. Scarlatti, Prokofiev, Schumann etc. If somebody says that Mozart's music is boring, they are not mature enough to talk about it. None of PF's music can be up to their depth in music. And I think this can be also said about a lot of bands praised to death on this site, though I like real progressive music, which Pink Floyd is not, it's decadent, anachronistic, boring and without any value just like ELP, Jethro Tull, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, Neal Morse solo and so on. No revolution anymore in them to Take hold of the flame (hint at QR on purpose). No offence.


Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 11:27
Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

If somebody says that Mozart's music is boring, they are not mature enough to talk about it. None of PF's music can be up to their depth in music. And I think this can be also said about a lot of bands praised to death on this site, though I like real progressive music, which Pink Floyd is not, it's decadent, anachronistic, boring and without any value just like ELP, Jethro Tull, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, Neal Morse solo and so on. No revolution anymore in them to Take hold of the flame (hint at QR on purpose). No offence.

Well , that's precisely my point. Maybe I'm an optimist, but when I read members comments it helps me to determine if I want to engage them in further discussion or just ignore them. But I must disagree about at least one Jethro Tull album, which does have depth, concept, beautiful lyrics, and takes some brains to figure out. And it isn't the one that is praised to death on this site, either. Big smile


Posted By: Ronnie Pilgrim
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 11:34
Originally posted by Alitare Alitare wrote:

Originally posted by Ronnie Pilgrim Ronnie Pilgrim wrote:

Well I, for one, am glad the OP posted this poll. It tells me a lot about the membership of PA. Yeah, it's like comparing http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68783&KW=apples - but we learn a lot about people by what they choose and sayBig smile

I voted for the musical genius.


Good to see you love Roger Waters, too.

LOL Yep. I'll be seeing him for the fifth time this November on The Wall tour. Here's to The Fifth of Waters!


Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 12:04
At least we know what Jethro Tull is (if you get this joke taken from the film Armageddon). Nevertheless,  you're probably right on Jethro Tull, too many times I'm sticking to term progressive as having the meaning of something revolutionary redeeming the world, something musically and artistically superiority and singularity, something not have been told yet. And I hear too often that this is progressive, that is progressive, then almost everything is progressive. I think we should spare this term in case of bands mentioned just because they have keyboard-oriented structures and real-world noises and samplers. Personally, my biggest problem with bands like PF, JT, ELP, Yes, that the singing voice spoils everything, partly because they have squealery voice, and partly the singing narrows and restrains the capacity of music to broaden wide. I like when music is freely emanating capsizing every -ism and every barrier. Sure, these bands good moments and affability. But not the same category as the one Mozart belongs in, if you know what I mean.


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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 12:07
Oh, yes. the previous one is an answer to Ronnie Pilgrim's post to my postSmile.

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Posted By: GY!BE
Date Posted: August 18 2010 at 14:29
Pink Floyd even if Mozart started it all...

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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 14:17
PF is leading??!!!!!  Shocked 
What does it mean??
Only that progRock hasn't taught us to appreciate really Great Music . It's a great pity .


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Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 14:19
Once again, the correct answer is "not the floyd."


Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 14:21
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Once again, the correct answer is "not the floyd."

LOL

I can't remember if I responded to this thread in the first place, but if I didn't I prefer to listen to Pink Floyd, I like classical but I am not often in the mood for it.

Edit: I didn't. LOL


Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 17:23
This has got to be one of the strangest polls I've ever seen. 
 
Which do I prefer?  Floyd.  But which is better?
 
This isn't like comparing apples and oranges.  It's like comparing apples and bulldozers.


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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 18:02
Floyd for me, Mozart for all humankind for the next 1 (2-3 or more, I don't know) hundred years. Smile

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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 19:10
Pink Floyd. Mozart is not one of my prefered classic musicicans.


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 22:48
Originally posted by Mr. Maestro Mr. Maestro wrote:

This has got to be one of the strangest polls I've ever seen. 
 
Which do I prefer?  Floyd.  But which is better?
 
This isn't like comparing apples and oranges.  It's like comparing apples and bulldozers.
 
Strange that this poll was resurrected after 18 months.
 
Mr Maestro identifies what many posters failed to understand.  The question was "which do you prefer" not "which is better".   The purpose was to discover how popular classical music is among progressive rock fans. It could have been Yes vs Beethoven but Pink Floyd is probably the most well known prog rock band and  Mozart is probably the most well known classical composer.
 
Pink Floyd won the vote which is only to be expected on a prog rock site.  I suspect a similar poll on a classical music site would have resulted in a rather more emphatic win for Mozart (if anyone bothered to vote at all).
 
The arrogant response of some of those who supported Mozart on this thread was a bit disappointing.


Posted By: JakoCba
Date Posted: October 03 2010 at 23:15
Mozart

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Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 01:36
Tried some of Mozart's string arrangements and was completely bored to tears. There are a lot of classical composers I enjoy listening to but Mozart isn't one of them. Pink Floyd easily. 

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Posted By: thehallway
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 13:28
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Maestro Mr. Maestro wrote:

This has got to be one of the strangest polls I've ever seen. 
 
Which do I prefer?  Floyd.  But which is better?
 
This isn't like comparing apples and oranges.  It's like comparing apples and bulldozers.
 
Strange that this poll was resurrected after 18 months.
 
Mr Maestro identifies what many posters failed to understand.  The question was "which do you prefer" not "which is better".   The purpose was to discover how popular classical music is among progressive rock fans. It could have been Yes vs Beethoven but Pink Floyd is probably the most well known prog rock band and  Mozart is probably the most well known classical composer.
 
Pink Floyd won the vote which is only to be expected on a prog rock site.  I suspect a similar poll on a classical music site would have resulted in a rather more emphatic win for Mozart (if anyone bothered to vote at all).
 
The arrogant response of some of those who supported Mozart on this thread was a bit disappointing.
 
I agree. Why do people really value Mozart so much that they won't even let him be discussed in the same sentence as "some band who's automatically inferior"? Anyway he is good of course, but I love Stravinsky and Debussy. Oh and Pink Floyd...


Posted By: Matthew T
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 14:38
PINK FLOYD bugger Mozart he does not say at the end of any of his Compositions........I was drunk at the time Big smile and he certainly did not have Dave Gilmour on guitar

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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:17
Not sure this poll works for me.

But the Floyd for me.....


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Posted By: Anirml
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:20
Even though I don't like Pink Floyd that much I'll stick with them here!

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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:20
Mozart is an absolute genius and any one of his works contains more thought and musical intensity than Floyd's entire discography.

I'll choose Mozart.  

And no I'm not a classical snob, I don't even listen to much classical.  It just seems so ridiculous to imply that Floyd is better than Mozart.


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 04 2010 at 15:38
I voted WA Mozart because his music is much more outstanding than Pink Floyd's.
 
This is BEAUTIFUL :
 


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Posted By: Hanke666
Date Posted: October 09 2010 at 18:22
Floyd. It's not that I dislike classical music, I just don't really like Mozart Ouch

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Posted By: sojourn
Date Posted: October 10 2010 at 03:36

one cannot compare a psychadelic rock band too a classical composer...




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