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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 10:20
There is certainly rivalry in the Norwegian prog rock scene. Several musicians has tried to kill each other after the botched up Ludo tournament backstage at the Alone In The Field '04 festival.
I think the vocalist in WOBBLER threw an elk at Pete Best in ANTI-DEPRESSIVE DELIVERY and almost killed him. They have exchanged insults on a daily basis since that incident.

Very nasty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 10:21
............... just joking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 10:27
That's a shame. It'd be awesome if that elk-throwing incident not only happened, but got immortalized a la Smoke on the WaterCool

Edited by Toaster Mantis - November 14 2008 at 10:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 10:49
Back to topic: I believe Rick Wakeman was pretty angry at the rest of YES after he walked out of the band during the Topographic Ocean tour. They played the album live and Rick aired his views in a very colourful manner. I believe there was some rivalry after that..........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 10:53

What about the current Yes?  Is there a budding rivalry between Jon Anderson and Benoit David?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2008 at 11:56
Originally posted by Isengard Isengard wrote:

What about the current Yes?  Is there a budding rivalry between Jon Anderson and Benoit David?

 

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Yeah, I suspect Jon Anderson may go as far as withholding  a hug. Shocked


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 04:14
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by Isengard Isengard wrote:

What about the current Yes?  Is there a budding rivalry between Jon Anderson and Benoit David?

 

LOL




Yeah, I suspect Jon Anderson may go as far as withholding  a hug. Shocked


 
LOL.  Like Yes is a stranger to rivalries!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 04:34

how about  deep purple  vs  led zeppelin

or Ritchie blackmore  vs the rest of deep purple
 
or pink floyd  vs sex pistols
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 04:35
 how about dream theater polls vs the rest of us
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 05:42
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Back to topic: I believe Rick Wakeman was pretty angry at the rest of YES after he walked out of the band during the Topographic Ocean tour. They played the album live and Rick aired his views in a very colourful manner. I believe there was some rivalry after that..........


I thought he was kicked out for not being a vegetarian. (no joke) Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 06:07
Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

 
or pink floyd  vs sex pistols


Eh, there never was such a feud, AFAIK. Yeah, Johnny Rotten wore that shirt of his, but it was a joke, he really liked Pink Floyd. Years later he told Gilmour about it and Gilmour laughed his head off.

Zappa and Beefheart had a long-standing feud, didn't they?

Chuck Schuldiner of Death had a feud with Patrick Mameli from the Dutch band Pestilence. But it all ended when Schuldiner fell ill and Mameli did his best to raise money for a therapy.

One of the guys from Mastodon said Dream Theater sucked. An apology from Brann Dailor (Mastodon's drummer) followed.

Then there was the time when one of the Genesis guys stabbed one of the Yes guys to death. One of the folks from ELP burned down a church. Another Yes musician blew his brain out and their drummer made soup out of it and ate it...

... wait, that's not right...


And that Patton-Kiedis thing is hysterical.

 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 06:13
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Chuck Schuldiner of Death had a feud with Patrick Mameli from the Dutch band Pestilence. But it all ended when Schuldiner fell ill and Mameli did his best to raise money for a therapy.


Chuck had a feud with Pestilence period, not just Patrick. At least that's what Martin van Drunen says.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2008 at 07:17
Well, we could say that Schuldiner had a feud with half of the death metal scence, from the bands to the labels and promoters. Yet, it was nothing compared to the Cannibal Corpse / Anal c**t feud (not to mention the bomb-mails sent to Glen Benton by some black metal extremists!)

But if talking about progressive rock... I hardly can imagine the rise of gangsta-prog, with musicians shooting other musicians for some reasons (money, drugs, things like that). It seems that the progressive musicians rather accumulate jealousies, issues about royalties or artistical divergences. Nothing to drive you mad at each other and being "at war" for years.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 06:01
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Prog musicians are a bunch of peace-loving hippies, they don't appear to get involved with that much in-fighting. David Gilmour was once very dismissive of The Moody Blues 'poets-corner' style, but it was never a feud as such. And even the disagreements within bands like Pink Floyd are more for public amusement than pistols at dawn, as there appears to be one member of the band (ie Nick Mason) who is prepared to broker a tenuous peace between rivals.
 
 
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Rivalries/feuds within bands tend to be more productive (either musically or to swell the coffers of the legal brethren). One that stands above others to me: Nick Simper v Jon Lord when the latter dismissed the former... allegedly without telling him of his demise for some weeks while Roger Glover laid down bass parts in the studio! What Mr Blackmore made of it all must remain a matter for conjecture, I guess.
 
Touring bands on secondary circuits tend to have an affinity in so many ways: lifestyle, music, red eyes, ingesting substances and the camaraderie, for instance, between Hawkwind, Pink Fairies, Man, Nektar, etc is well documented.
 
Finally a genuine, if slightly obscure feud. If a member of one band goes out with a member of another and they split up, the 'bad vibes' can degenerate into a genuine dislike that spreads across all parties.
 
Just ask fans of either F***** O******** or S**** during the Seventies!
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 06:07
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Prog musicians are a bunch of peace-loving hippies, they don't appear to get involved with that much in-fighting. David Gilmour was once very dismissive of The Moody Blues 'poets-corner' style, but it was never a feud as such. And even the disagreements within bands like Pink Floyd are more for public amusement than pistols at dawn, as there appears to be one member of the band (ie Nick Mason) who is prepared to broker a tenuous peace between rivals.
 
Just seen your line about the peace broker in the band.Clap again.
 
All prog fans have their weaknesses and one of my many is the Manics. When they went thru their 'combat rock' (Holy Bible) phase, Sean the drummer used to wear a light blue UN peace keepers beret on stage. Band in-joke I guess.
 
Mind you, James wore a Russian naval uniform based on that sported by the crew of the Battleship Potemkin. No, can't even chuck a guess at why.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 07:11
Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:

Finally a genuine, if slightly obscure feud. If a member of one band goes out with a member of another and they split up, the 'bad vibes' can degenerate into a genuine dislike that spreads across all parties.
hahaha, if Wikipedia is to be believed, there is a tale to tell about the barbed look John Cale is giving Kevin Ayers in this pre-gig photo:
June 1, 1974 cover
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 09:56
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by el dingo el dingo wrote:


Finally a genuine, if slightly obscure feud. If a member of one band goes out with a member of another and they split up, the 'bad vibes' can degenerate into a genuine dislike that spreads across all parties.

hahaha, if Wikipedia is to be believed, there is a tale to tell about the barbed look John Cale is giving Kevin Ayers in this pre-gig photo:

June 1, 1974 cover






ha ha ha, bemused look? I know I probably would have reacted a little stronger than that. I guess rock stars are different than us regular folks. I'll never foget that album though, somehow it made it to our record store in hicksville USA. It was my introduction to a whole new musical world as well as the 'decadence' that went with it.

As far as fueds go, I understand that Bill Bruford was a jerk towards the Genesis guys during his tour with them, Bruford being from the more modernized, urban and updated King Crimson, and Genesis still being ... um ... Genesis. He later apologized to all of them. Later Fripp and Bruford exchanged some nastiness via their websites or something like that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 16:30
I don't know about feuds between bands, but when it comes to feuds within a band no-one can beat Amon Düül 2. Threats with revolvers and knives were quite common in their heyday."My song gets on the album, or else.." or something like that.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 16:50
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I don't know about feuds between bands, but when it comes to feuds within a band no-one can beat Amon Düül 2. Threats with revolvers and knives were quite common in their heyday."My song gets on the album, or else.." or something like that.
Hahaha, I guess that's why they always recorded double albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 22:48
Prog bands won't have rivalries on the same level as Megadeth-Metallica because, for the most part, the musicians are more mature and music-oriented instead of ego-oriented.

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