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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 19:31
I expect nothing from it. To echo others if there's a single decent song I will be surprised. I expect us to here an album of Metallica trying to record another Master of Puppets. Anyway with that said I will almost certainly be buying the album. I hope for a lot more than I expect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 19:33
I think it will be reasonable but slightly dull like most metallica. I don't think any boundaries will be pushed it will just be another album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 19:50
Now... if it's worse than St Anger... it could achieve legendary status... like Ed Wood movies...
 
How can a band record MOP or AJFA and then record St Anger or those MTV-friendly songs like "Disappear"? How can MEGADETH, which is as old, still be recording good albums?
 
The answer lies in Ulrich's ultimate obsession: control and money. And Hetfield's "I-don't-give-a-sh*t" attitude hasn't helped.... but they created MOP and AJFA, so my heart still holds a little hope....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:11
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:


How can a band record MOP or AJFA and then record St Anger or those MTV-friendly songs like "Disappear"? How can MEGADETH, which is as old, still be recording good albums?

 

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Well there was about 16 between AJFA and St. Anger. Not too mention an incredible amount of problems within the band. Megadeth have always been different from Metallica, yet Mustaine has followed a similar path. Megadeth stopped writing truly thrash songs soon after Metallica's transition from it. Mustaine has also said (recently) how he wishes he had never been stupid and got himself kicked out of the band I'm glad he was because 1. I like Megadeth 2. Kirk Hammet is awesome.

I didn't really see what was that wrong with St. Anger. It wasn't great, but it was amazing they were able to put out anything considering the amount of crap they were going through. It was the first time the band had done anything in a truly communal way. There were no guitar solos, but Hammet said he didn't want to solo because he was tired of playing traditional solos at the time. Thats fine. There are still plenty of kick ass, heavy riffs like there have been the past 20+ years.

Metallica is no longer and hasn't been a thrash band for nearly two decades. Yet they've still managed to put out some heavy stuff that is very enjoyable (for me).


Thats my thought anyways.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 10:43
Early Metallica always impressed me, and the later albums always had something good in them somewhere, although sometimes admittedly hard to detect, but St.Anger did just waht the title implied: Everytime I played it, it got me VERY angry, but for the wrong reasons: It was abysmal.
 
So, as I dont believe they can get any worse, the new album just has to be a step up, right?
 
Oh, and are they getting on again? If so, perhaps this time we'll be in for a DVD not showing their psychiatric antics, but perhaps we can join them on a nice trip to Disneyland.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 12:40
I posted something about this on another website. I'll try and find it and post it here in a sec...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 12:43
The problem with bands like Metallica is that everyone wants to hear Master of Puppets again. Get with it people. That was released 20 years ago. This is a band that has aged and matured. St. Anger had it's moments. So this one should have to.

This album will likely get bad reviews for two reasons. 1. Everyone expects MOP again. 2. Thus far I've read very good things about the songs on this album, therefore everyone will be expecting "old" Metallica and will instantly be let down.

Myself, I'm looking forward to a good heavy metal album. Regardless if it's Metallica 1988 or Metallica 2008.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 14:03
^ Great sig! Even though Petrucci and Rudess look horrendously ridiculous...LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:02

There's a few clips of the new album here:

http://www.missionmetallica.com/

Once it's loaded wait for the song clip to play for a second, then click on "Mission: Metallica" on the right hand side (next to the screen).

Pretty awesome. The "Suicide, I've already died" and the "Bow down, sell your soul to me" bits sound f**king killer.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 09:03
I just hope lars bought a new snare drum.... unless he's too poor from paying his lawyers to sue kids for downloading.
 
I'm also going to start keeping track of their attempts to gouge fans of money during the promotion of this album.
I bet they don't release any promotional clips longer than 20 seconds (that you don't have to pay for), because most of the revenue on this record will be made from people buying it out of sheer perverse curiosity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 10:19
^^ I'm pretty sure a good amount of Lars's snare sound on St. Anger was due to Bob Rock's production signature of using layers upon layers of compression. It was weird at first, but I thought it gave the album a nice raw sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:18
Who am I kidding here... I CAN'T wait for the new album!
 
And those riffs in missionmetallica.com are good....
 
All I need is a better album than LOAD.... I don't expect them to go back to MOP or AJFA, not even to the black album... but if they release something better than the first one of the three disasters (which was also the least awful of the three) that will be OK with me...Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 20:50
Forgot to mention, one thing is certain: I won't be buying it without hearing it first, as I did with St. Anger, unless Best Buy is serving it up as album of the week for $4.99. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 02:24
Zero expectations. After the failure of St Anger there is a possibility of them trying to return to their roots, but it is slim, so very slim, and the road is fraught with danger...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 20:05
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Good Lord, my expectations would have to be pretty much zero.  if there was a shred of decent music to be found on the record it would be above and beyond.  Agree with you completely about the 17 year figure. 

Pretty much what I think too
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 20:56
Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Forgot to mention, one thing is certain: I won't be buying it without hearing it first, as I did with St. Anger, unless Best Buy is serving it up as album of the week for $4.99. 


im with you on that one!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 22:58
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Chinese Democracy = musical equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever.


Both have been previewed in a way, so they're not just rumors anymore. They'll probably be scrapped tho. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 03:15
I expect it will be dull and generic, like everything they've released since 1991.
 
I truly think that Cliff was the creative driving force, as Syd was for Pink Floyd. When he joined the band, they went from being a band with a great new style (the one that Diamond Head should have stuck to), to a world-dominating ensemble. After he died, they became steadily more average - until they became St. Average.
 
I must say that "Death Magnetic" is the most interesting title they've had since "...and Justice For All".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 03:34
Am I the only one here who thinks Load and Reload would have been better received if they hadn't been released under the Metallica name?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 12:38
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Can't be as bad as St. Anger.

Metallica aren't unique. Their drummer sucks, their songwriting is bland and their music is almost never interesting. They haven't written a really good song in 15 years. They had their day. Anything they could do a younger band has done better.

One major disagreement - no matter what , the new album will likely sell by the ton, at least for what passes as a big seller these days (million plus 1Smile). No other metal band has the track record, and even St Anger sold well. Maybe better than it deserved.
But who knows ... Megadeth, o.k. , Dave Mustaine came back with two great albums after deviating into the mainstream (Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings, Risk), so why not his ex-enenies/compadres.
Oh, check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=cjomTQLEwNM&amp;feature=related. Find out why the "Hamster" might be the 3rd best guitarist in the band. LOL

P.S. in a semi-related kind of way - Voivod is planning on going back on the road. They are also working on a new album ,again with unfinished work with Piggy. Michel Langevin and surprise  - Eric Forest.


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