are there any good prog rock forums?

Wizard/TRueStar wrote: There is no other than the archives, I'm sorry to inform you.  All the others gave up.  You didn't get the memo?  Progarchives is your #1 prog resource.

Damn right Wizzer!!

Sweetnighter wrote: Manunkind wrote: Manunkind wrote: PM me when you find one, OK, Aaron? Sorry, but it needed to be said. I think Aaron's right. And besides, just to restate it, I quit. Not because of anything anyone here said, but because I really need to concentrate on my private life now. Best of everything to you all. I concur. I would like to see discussion on some rare groups. Although I'm certainly not claiming to be a know it all, I feel quite familiar with Yes, Rush, Genesis, Floyd, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf, the groups that come up all the time! And trust me, I love those groups... but I'd love to have some expansion upon that. I don't think jumping ship is the correct course of action, rather, that we need to alter our approach. I would love to see the mods jump in a little more often and steer conversation in the right direction. I'm tired of all the bickering... and I don't care if its done by newcomers or people who have thousands and thousands of posts, it needs to stop. What we have to keep in mind is that prospective prog fans read this forum, and we want to leave a good impression on them!

There are people trying to discuss obscure bands, but since few people know them, their topics get inevitably covered up by those related to Rush, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc, simply because we all know about those bands.

Useful_Idiot wrote: Sweetnighter wrote: Manunkind wrote: Manunkind wrote: PM me when you find one, OK, Aaron? Sorry, but it needed to be said. I think Aaron's right. And besides, just to restate it, I quit. Not because of anything anyone here said, but because I really need to concentrate on my private life now. Best of everything to you all. I concur. I would like to see discussion on some rare groups. Although I'm certainly not claiming to be a know it all, I feel quite familiar with Yes, Rush, Genesis, Floyd, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf, the groups that come up all the time! And trust me, I love those groups... but I'd love to have some expansion upon that. I don't think jumping ship is the correct course of action, rather, that we need to alter our approach. I would love to see the mods jump in a little more often and steer conversation in the right direction. I'm tired of all the bickering... and I don't care if its done by newcomers or people who have thousands and thousands of posts, it needs to stop. What we have to keep in mind is that prospective prog fans read this forum, and we want to leave a good impression on them! There are people trying to discuss obscure bands, but since few people know them, their topics get inevitably covered up by those related to Rush, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc, simply because we all know about those bands.

Oh of course, naturally people are going to have more to say about those groups... thats why I suggested having the mods and other prog vets sponsor some more interesting conversation about lesser known bands. And Reed Lover, of course good natured debate helps the forum, I totally agree, but when it becomes worthless mudslinging, in the case of some recent topics, such as those related to ELP, it doesn't truly benefit anybody. You can't argue with that...

I enjoy this forum for the most part.

I find it's better here to express your opinions (because the other forum I go to, "Cblocals" (which is a forum for underground local band of cape breton, my home.), I can't express my opinions about different bands and prog rock and such, because it is full of idiots that think kurt cobain is a musical genius, and they snap at me for making posts about prog music and go on huge rants about how prog is boring and that talent doesn't mean sh*t as long as you can write good music (which I find stupid, because the bands around there are both untalented, AND can't write good music ), and always say people like us are closed minded just because we don't like punk, we can like every other kind of music out there, but they say we're closed minded because we just don't like punk. Stupid locals weiners. There's like 5 other people on there that I respect and like prog.) without getting shunned.

Sweetnighter wrote:   And Reed Lover, of course good natured debate helps the forum, I totally agree, but when it becomes worthless mudslinging, in the case of some recent topics, such as those related to ELP, it doesn't truly benefit anybody. You can't argue with that...

I bloody well can.So the "mudslinging" is not to your taste....deal with it.It's only people letting off steam-this is supposed to be entertainment right? Just as some people wouldnt consider ELP entertainment,or Tangerine Dream etc some of us like a good ole ruck now and again.Anyone who takes it too seriously is over-sensitive in my view.Posts like this just reinforce the perception thaProg Rock lovers are a bunch of nerdy humourless loners.If you cant stand the banter then dont join in! Oh and dont go outside your house -you might get picked on!

Analyse this:

of course good natured debate helps the forum

WTF does that actually mean "help the forum"????

Stop talking like a twerp!

Prog archives is the One and Only

Eddy wrote: Aaron wrote: i want to read a forum that actually is about prog music, not what bands are prog or not, or threads about yes, elp, and pink floyd, i want a forum that could potentially get me into lesser known bands or raises discussion on our music, not hate discussion of why this or that sucks sure i could start threads like these, but i am a better reader than poster, plus i have only been listening to prog for two years so seriously, is there a better prog rock forum out there? because this one is turning into sh*t Aaron when this site first was up, i bet it was very seroius, but now, weve probly covered all the big prog issus. i came in, and it was already getting crazy(it could be partilly my fault, but more likly it was gdub!)

I'll take my lumps and except some of the blame but don't heap most of it on me when this forum has other rascals like Reed Lover ,Velvetclown,Karnevil9, and Rob The Plant to name but a few. Heck, my posting on this site has gone WAY down in the last couple months.

Part of the problem is that the forum has become so busy. Good threads can quickly (within a day) disappear to two or three pages down the list because others are updated later.

This should be addressed to some extent by the revamp of the forum, which is currently being worked on.

Forum members could however help by making sure they start new threads in the right sections. The main discussions are ONLY for taking about prog, not about members who have been barred, poor reviews, favourite beers, etc. Some members seem only to look at the main discussions, and put little thought into which section their thread should be in. There's a lot more discussion to explore elsewhere in the forum too.

I'm with Gdub -- The Archives for info, the Forums for entertainment, and mercilessly teasing like-minded lifeless losers.

One can make friends here too (Private Messages are a good venue), and then maybe trade the odd tune via email.

Re "serious prog discussions," we said it all about a year ago. Too late!

Want to talk about a very obscure band? The only problem is, the three other people who have the album may not be Forum members, or may be unable to write coherently due to years of ingesting the powerful hallucinogens needed to "understand" the music....

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All:

Speaking in my "official" capacity, I want to thank Easy Living for his observation.  Although it is only one small part of the perceived problem, it would help if people understood where various threads should be started.  Even when new categories are created after the re-vamp, this will not eliminate the problem of people starting threads in the wrong place.

Simply stated, "Main Discussions" should be limited to discussions about prog rock: period.  Not, as Easy points out, poor reviews, favorite beers, or even - much to your surprise, I'm sure - music other than prog.  This is where it gets a bit tricky: discussions about music other than prog should go under "Discussions Not Related to Music" - for now.  There will eventually be a new category for non-prog music discussions.  However, in the meantime, "Discussions Not Related to Music" is the "catch-all" for non-prog-related discussions.

However, not all non-prog threads go there.  If you are discussing a particular album, the thread should be started under "Currently Listening To."  If you are discussing upcoming or past band tours, music festivals, etc., the thread should be started under "Bands on Tour."  If you are making an announcement about something - a site or mp3 link to check out, you just released an EP and want people to provide feedback, etc. - the thread should be started under "Announcements."  (It's not rocket science, people, it just takes a little thought...)  As you may have noticed, I have started to be more active in moving threads to their proper places - and it's not always "Discussions Not Related to Music."

Which brings me to another point.  Because threads are being moved to their proper places (and because they should be started in those places), if members do not check out all possible categories - but only look at Main Discussions and Discussions Not Related to Music - they will miss interesting discussions that they might want to participate in.

Again, this is admittedly only a part of the perceived problem.  I will shortly be posting an "all forums announcement" regarding another aspect of this issue.  Look for it in the next 24 hours.

Peace.

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