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Atavachron
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Posted: February 19 2008 at 17:21 |
Ricochet wrote:
Confront a child, a puppy, and a kitten with a sudden danger; the
child will turn instinctively for assistance, the puppy will grovel in
abject submission .. the kitten will brace its tiny body for a frantic
resistance. - Saki
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love this one
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The T
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Posted: February 19 2008 at 19:20 |
Musically, my cats suck. If I put music loud, they'll leave, even though they may tolerate it. They make no distinctions between metal and symphonic or any other genre... or classical, for that matter... but if I try to play guitar or play around with keyboards, they'll just leave in zero seconds.....
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Evans
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Posted: February 19 2008 at 19:31 |
Of course, Dogs are a lot smarter than cats.
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'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: February 19 2008 at 19:58 |
Icanhascheezburger vs Ihasahotdog. Obviously kittens.
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<font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR]
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 03:14 |
The T wrote:
Musically, my cats suck. If I put music loud, they'll leave, even though they may tolerate it. They make no distinctions between metal and symphonic or any other genre... or classical, for that matter... but if I try to play guitar or play around with keyboards, they'll just leave in zero seconds..... |
Hmm, perhaps it is you that musically sucks and they just can't stand your blundering around on your instruments. (not to be taken seriously)
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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The Pessimist
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 10:36 |
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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The T
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 13:46 |
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Musically, my cats suck. If I put music loud, they'll leave, even though they may tolerate it. They make no distinctions between metal and symphonic or any other genre... or classical, for that matter... but if I try to play guitar or play around with keyboards, they'll just leave in zero seconds..... |
Hmm, perhaps it is you that musically sucks and they just can't stand your blundering around on your instruments. (not to be taken seriously)
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It may be.. but as I said, these deaf cats might as well hear me destroying a guitar or Bruckner's seventh and they will leave my room as if disgusted by my lack of hygiene or something... they're hopeless...
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 20:06 |
The Nazis used dogs.
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Peter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 21:17 |
^ Ah, Stoney, but the Allies used them too, and dogs have been used to do much other good as well -- more good than ill on the balance, by far.
Dogs regularly find lost children, avalanche victims, disaster victims, fleeing criminals, etc.
They provide eyes for the blind.
On ships, they kept rats down, and rescued drowning sailors. They still rescue drowning people (Labrador retriever, Newfoundland dog). With their very keen noses, they can be trained to detect land mines, explosives, narcotics, etc. (Likely even provide early diagnosis of specific illnesses, is the latest hoped-for application.)
They can guard property, children, the elderly. They can be beasts of burden. They can be used for transportation in snowy climes. They can herd and protect sheep. They can detect and retrieve game for hunters. In hospitals & nursing homes, they can comfort the ill, elderly and lonely. They can even clean up kitchen and dining room spills!
Etc, etc!
(You know all these things, no doubt.)
Did you know that dogs are (genetically) tame wolves -- they are the same species. When you are in their "pack," they are completely loyal to you, and protective of you, until death. They will stand in the face of danger -- even die -- for you. (Ask any cop who has a canine partner.)
When my family and I were camping in a tent, my little dog went after a black bear that was very near to me (and my sleeping wife and kids). My little dog did not act as if he was small -- he fearlessly harassed that bear until it soon fled. We stayed there another night -- I was very glad to have him, his bravery, his bark, his sharp ears, and his nose with us.
Cats can make good pets for many people, and it seems that many progholes prefer them, but they simply cannot compete with dogs in terms of loyalty and age-old utility to man. A cat does things for itself (many will find that instinctive independence & "selfishness" admirable), but a dog does things for YOU. Our partnership with them goes back to the stone age. They did not get tagged "man's best friend" for nothing!
And puppies are darned cute -- who could honestly deny that?
Edited by Peter - February 20 2008 at 21:26
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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darkmatter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 21:24 |
Well I have 4 cats at home, have had several cats throughout my life, so I think my answer is obvious.
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Atkingani
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 21:24 |
Having a dog and a tomcat, I may say that I like both but my heart has a little bias for the dog...
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Guigo
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Peter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 21:36 |
Atkingani wrote:
Having a dog and a tomcat, I may say that I like both but my heart has a little bias for the dog...
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Yeah -- I'm not trying to put down cats (no doubt they have their charms, especially if you're not allergic to them, or if you live in an apartment, etc) but come on people, be fair -- give the loving, loyal, brave and downright useful doggy its due!
A dog just might save your life one day!
Edited by Peter - February 20 2008 at 21:40
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Atkingani
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 21:57 |
Here they are:
Duque, 9 years-old large poodle (more than 20 kg), with one of his properties:
Nick, 11 months-old persian (more than 6 kg), making a lion's face (in fact he has a mane):
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Guigo
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Peter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 22:24 |
Nice pets, Guigo -- even if the cat looks like a surly, maladjusted metal musician!
Do they ever catch exotic Brazilian bugs, or other such creepy critters?
Edited by Peter - February 20 2008 at 22:27
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Atkingani
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 22:36 |
Thanks, Petey...
The cat is specialist in bringing home from our backyard cockroaches or snails to play with them in our bed... the dog however is a sweetheart unable to hurt even a small ant.
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Peter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 23:00 |
I think we need some prog "good dog" (okay, or cat) lyrics in this thread!
Here's a line from Jethro Tull's cool No Lullaby:
There's a lock on the window; there's a chain on the door: a big dog in the hall. But there's dragons and beasties out there in the night to snatch you if you fall.
Ohhh -- scary! Stay there by the door, Mangler! Good dog!
Irish Wolfhounds ^ (but not the "flying purple" Yes variety! )
Big dogs -- originally bred for hunting wolves, elk, wild boar -- and humans in war!
Up to 7 feet tall, when standing!
Edited by Peter - February 20 2008 at 23:08
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Peter
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Posted: February 20 2008 at 23:13 |
Yeah, here's that wacky Jon Anderson line, from the terrific Yours Is No Disgrace (Yes Album):
Battleships confide in me and tell me where you are Shining, flying, purple wolfhound, show me where you are....
Shining? Flying? PURPLE? WTF???
I love it though -- very prog -- very 70s!
Edited by Peter - February 20 2008 at 23:17
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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The T
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Posted: February 21 2008 at 00:34 |
Peter wrote:
^ Ah, Stoney, but the Allies used them too, and dogs have been used to do much other good as well -- more good than ill on the balance, by far.
Dogs regularly find lost children, avalanche victims, disaster victims, fleeing criminals, etc.
They provide eyes for the blind.
On ships, they kept rats down, and rescued drowning sailors. They still rescue drowning people (Labrador retriever, Newfoundland dog). With their very keen noses, they can be trained to detect land mines, explosives, narcotics, etc. (Likely even provide early diagnosis of specific illnesses, is the latest hoped-for application.)
They can guard property, children, the elderly. They can be beasts of burden. They can be used for transportation in snowy climes. They can herd and protect sheep. They can detect and retrieve game for hunters. In hospitals & nursing homes, they can comfort the ill, elderly and lonely. They can even clean up kitchen and dining room spills!
Etc, etc!
(You know all these things, no doubt.)
Did you know that dogs are (genetically) tame wolves -- they are the same species. When you are in their "pack," they are completely loyal to you, and protective of you, until death. They will stand in the face of danger -- even die -- for you. (Ask any cop who has a canine partner.)
When my family and I were camping in a tent, my little dog went after a black bear that was very near to me (and my sleeping wife and kids). My little dog did not act as if he was small -- he fearlessly harassed that bear until it soon fled. We stayed there another night -- I was very glad to have him, his bravery, his bark, his sharp ears, and his nose with us.
Cats can make good pets for many people, and it seems that many progholes prefer them, but they simply cannot compete with dogs in terms of loyalty and age-old utility to man. A cat does things for itself (many will find that instinctive independence & "selfishness" admirable), but a dog does things for YOU. Our partnership with them goes back to the stone age. They did not get tagged "man's best friend" for nothing!
And puppies are darned cute -- who could honestly deny that?
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Best post ever....
Anyway, I feel like a traitor as I have two wonderful cats... and if we are showing off our friends, let me show you how well I've educated one of my own, Burt:
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Wilcey
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Posted: February 21 2008 at 02:40 |
I love both, I don't have any pets right now, truly I don't think I could cope with another loss.......... I still get a bit weepy when I think of TuTu dearly departed Lurcher of the wolfhound variety, but blonde and beardy and totally gorgeous, she has been gone about 5 years now............ or Ollie, big bad cat, grumpy, and viscious with strangers and big fat lovable kitty with family who passed away last September.
Tutu was incredibly stupid, I think she was retarded but here size ensured protection, and Ollie would have had the arm off a burglar before we could wake up!
Dogs V Cats......... I don't know, both?
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 21 2008 at 04:50 |
Peter wrote:
^ Ah, Stoney, but the Allies used them too, and dogs have been used to do much other good as well -- more good than ill on the balance, by far.
Dogs regularly find lost children, avalanche victims, disaster victims, fleeing criminals, etc.
They provide eyes for the blind.
On ships, they kept rats down, and rescued drowning sailors. They still rescue drowning people (Labrador retriever, Newfoundland dog). With their very keen noses, they can be trained to detect land mines, explosives, narcotics, etc. (Likely even provide early diagnosis of specific illnesses, is the latest hoped-for application.)
They can guard property, children, the elderly. They can be beasts of burden. They can be used for transportation in snowy climes. They can herd and protect sheep. They can detect and retrieve game for hunters. In hospitals & nursing homes, they can comfort the ill, elderly and lonely. They can even clean up kitchen and dining room spills!
Etc, etc!
(You know all these things, no doubt.)
Did you know that dogs are (genetically) tame wolves -- they are the same species. When you are in their "pack," they are completely loyal to you, and protective of you, until death. They will stand in the face of danger -- even die -- for you. (Ask any cop who has a canine partner.)
When my family and I were camping in a tent, my little dog went after a black bear that was very near to me (and my sleeping wife and kids). My little dog did not act as if he was small -- he fearlessly harassed that bear until it soon fled. We stayed there another night -- I was very glad to have him, his bravery, his bark, his sharp ears, and his nose with us.
Cats can make good pets for many people, and it seems that many progholes prefer them, but they simply cannot compete with dogs in terms of loyalty and age-old utility to man. A cat does things for itself (many will find that instinctive independence & "selfishness" admirable), but a dog does things for YOU. Our partnership with them goes back to the stone age. They did not get tagged "man's best friend" for nothing!
And puppies are darned cute -- who could honestly deny that?
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you forgot to mention one thing, Peter: they also served and still
serve as food in some countries, for example Iceland and China.
actually chow-chow, the name of a special breed of dog, means
"yummy-yummy" regarding to taste in Chinese.
one of the reasons Amundsen won the race to the South Pole against
Scott was that he used sledge dogs which not only pulled the sledge but
also served as living supplies; the less the sled weighed the fewer
dogs were needed to pull it, so when a sufficient amount of provisions
was used up certain dogs became "available".
this just serves to show what a friend man's best friend actually is
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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