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Poll Question: How do you feel about these movie's and their gratuitous violence?
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 07:14
I tend to agree, Toolis - the Saw movies are undoubtedly violent, but at least they have a plot and are well made - Hostel, on the other hand is just appalling.

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well, to be fair, Hostel has that message that our lives have become so empty or humans are so unsatisfied beings or that violence is hidden in our nature or that rich people cannot find happiness or whatever but that wasn't neither a clear message nor artisticaly given...
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You know how dangerous ignorance is? Some guys from work, who otherwise are smart and I like them, as they don't know much about the rest of the world (most american young people don't) said to me that "they would never fly to east-europe because they don't want what happens in hostel to happen to them"...LOLAngry
 
 
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I think most young people would be more accurate don't you?
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I haven't seen Hostel (I prefer to waste my time watching paint dry actuallyLOL) but wherever it is staged, that's what they said...
 
Come on, COLLEGE american young people know about the world..and not even all of them... as much as I love this country, people here are shown US-ONLY news... just see the nes broadcasts and the newspapers... so it's no surprise that common people don't know sh*t about the rest of the world and think that a garbage movie like Hostel is really what happens to travelers in other countries...
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 14:13
Just because a few idiots think that does not mean its a widespread symptom. Do you really think young people in other countries are so worldly and know whats happening all across the globe with no innocent misconceptions?
 
I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 14:18
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Just because a few idiots think that does not mean its a widespread symptom. Do you really think young people in other countries are so worldly and know whats happening all across the globe with no innocent misconceptions?
 
I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet.
 
Exactly... .... go outside the US and see with your own eyes that, in the rest of the world, people learn what happens everywhere... the US, even HAITI, LAOS, wherever...
 
I live in the US, drink from its fountains, so I actually love the US... I just happen to disagree with the "me and only me" way of thinking that many people here have...
 
Specially in Florida....Wink


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Those movies include about 50 min of porn and the rest straight up killing and destroying. But then again thats what america has been stopping down to....Cry
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet


Isn't that just typical from a Yank?

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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Just because a few idiots think that does not mean its a widespread symptom. Do you really think young people in other countries are so worldly and know whats happening all across the globe with no innocent misconceptions?
 
I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet.
 
Exactly... .... go outside the US and see with your own eyes that, in the rest of the world, people learn what happens everywhere... the US, even HAITI, LAOS, wherever...
 
I live in the US, drink from its fountains, so I actually love the US... I just happen to disagree with the "me and only me" way of thinking that many people here have...
 
Specially in Florida....Wink
 
My point is it isn't like that outside the U.S. I've been through a good bit of Western Europe. It's no different. It's a self-hating American bred fallacy that all over the world kids know everything about the world except our dumb American kids.
 
Of course there are dumb American kids who don't know anything about the world, but there's dumb European kids that are the same. And for the aware worldly European kids, there's the same in American kids.
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2007 at 11:04
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet


Isn't that just typical from a Yank?

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Hey now, we tore half your country away from you and we saved you in two wars. We're supposed to be even now.
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Points: 10387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2007 at 11:31
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'm perfectly OK with those kinds of movies being made, but I will never see them and do not understand the following of them.  Parents need to be responsible though and not let their young children see those films which unfortunately, some do.  Oh well. 


This film however, is 31 years old and still being banned:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073650/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal%C3%B2_o_le_120_giornate_di_Sodoma

we saw this movie in an off-broadway cinema. it is quite disturbing, but so are movies like "Viva la Muerte" (which in my opinion has even more shocking images) or "El Topo". and although the movie is quite violent, there actually is a moral message in it


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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Just because a few idiots think that does not mean its a widespread symptom. Do you really think young people in other countries are so worldly and know whats happening all across the globe with no innocent misconceptions?
 
I just tire of the anti-American rhetoric, and hell I'm not even 20 yet.
 
Exactly... .... go outside the US and see with your own eyes that, in the rest of the world, people learn what happens everywhere... the US, even HAITI, LAOS, wherever...
 
I live in the US, drink from its fountains, so I actually love the US... I just happen to disagree with the "me and only me" way of thinking that many people here have...
 
Specially in Florida....Wink
 
My point is it isn't like that outside the U.S. I've been through a good bit of Western Europe. It's no different. It's a self-hating American bred fallacy that all over the world kids know everything about the world except our dumb American kids.
 
Of course there are dumb American kids who don't know anything about the world, but there's dumb European kids that are the same. And for the aware worldly European kids, there's the same in American kids.
 
of course, I'm not saying ALL american youngsters are world-ignorants or that ALL european or southamerican (the places I know, don't ask me about Asia or Africa) are world-educated.... but it's in the culture.... See the news broadcasts on tv: ZERO international news.... See the international section in the newspapers: BURIED after "celebrity" news (in most of them.... It's only logical: news broadcasts in the US are NOT EVEN NATIONAL: in one county in Florida you will never see news from another county, much less from a different state, MUCH LESS about a different country.... In southamerica and in Europe (curiously, I was educated in a school in Southamerica but a european-oriented-german school at that) you have lots of WORLD history classes, and in the news (all formats) you have big international sections (that's why we know everything thsat happens here in the US, while the US doesn't know, sometimes, what's going on outside its borders)....
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Points: 15784 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2007 at 14:19
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Thats probably because you're leading local papers. WSJ & NYT have plenty of international news. Of course every country knows what's going on in the U.S. it's the center of finance and the West. You can't honestly tell me you know more about the history of Sri Lanka because you were educated outside of the U.S. than one educated in the U.S.
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