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Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

I don't know enough about either composer to vote, but I'll say this - Tchaikovsky's music may sound cheesy only because of the abuse it has suffered at the hands of mass culture. It's certainly not inherently cheesy.
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

I don't know enough about either composer to vote, but I'll say this - Tchaikovsky's music may sound cheesy only because of the abuse it has suffered at the hands of mass culture. It's certainly not inherently cheesy.
 
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I agree 100%... no, make it 127%!!!
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

I don't know enough about either composer to vote, but I'll say this - Tchaikovsky's music may sound cheesy only because of the abuse it has suffered at the hands of mass culture. It's certainly not inherently cheesy.

 

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I agree 100%... no, make it 127%!!!


It's creepy to see people agreeing with me, for a change...

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Originally posted by Visitor1<wbr>3 Visitor13 wrote:

I don't know enough about either composer to vote, but I'll say this - Tchaikovsky's music may sound cheesy only because of the abuse it has suffered at the hands of mass culture. It's certainly not inherently cheesy.

Though I may seem to have said the exact opposite earlier, I think you are quite right. I have heard many wonderful Tschaikovsky pieces but the more well-known works of his irritate me a bit, though I can still enjoy them. You're absolutely correct about the abuse of mass culture making this great work ...umm...seem...cheesy.

 I didn't mean to criticise the great master Tchaikovsky. He was a genius and composed much great music.

It's simply a question of taste prefering Stravinsky over Tchaikovsky.
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A tough call as both are great, but I have to go with Tchaikovsky because at heart I am a Romantic. Heart

 
In his last Symphony (No. 6), he could also go for subtle, sombre moods, as in the sustained ending section for its 4th Movement. If in the 3rd Movementy he celebrated a life of joy, the 4th and last movement was a lament for what seems the approaching of death. And yes, he died a few months after the premiere.
 
Kudos for Stravinsky, too!... but i vote for Tchaikovsky.
 
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Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

A tough call as both are great, but I have to go with Tchaikovsky because at heart I am a Romantic. Heart

 
In his last Symphony (No. 6), he could also go for subtle, sombre moods, as in the sustained ending section for its 4th Movement. If in the 3rd Movementy he celebrated a life of joy, the 4th and last movement was a lament for what seems the approaching of death. And yes, he died a few months after the premiere.
 
Kudos for Stravinsky, too!... but i vote for Tchaikovsky.
 
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According to a letter Tachikovsky wrote to his brother, Patetica (Symphony No. 6) was the thing he loved the most, his whole soul has in it... and it´s quite true, in some parts you can certainly feel his pain and depression...
Now, how poetic is that? To kill yourself after having composed your best work. I know thats not why he killed himself (well... maybe yes, who knows for sure?) but it seems he asked himself "where to go now? what can I do now that I have made the best music I can?". To kill yourself because you have achieved "perfection"... wow... now thats poetic!
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But I prefer Johann Sebastian Bach!!!
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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

But I prefer Johann Sebastian Bach!!!
 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

But I prefer Johann Sebastian Bach!!!
 
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Is that JS Bach, the famous Russian composer? Or are Stravinsky and Tchaikovsky now German , along with Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov and Prokofiev PinchWink Tongue
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2007 at 20:02
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

But I prefer Johann Sebastian Bach!!!
 
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Is that JS Bach, the famous Russian composer? Or are Stravinsky and Tchaikovsky now German , along with Mussorgsky, Rimsky-Korsakov and Prokofiev PinchWink Tongue
 
yeah, I know that bringing Bach into the conversation came a little bit out of nowhere LOL... but anyways, he's the Master.
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