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Gaston 
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Joined: February 26 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 401 |
 Posted: January 17 2005 at 23:46 |
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Mars Volta way before Muse.
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Peter
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 31 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 9669 |
Posted: January 17 2005 at 23:52 |
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Yes, Kronk, rivetting -- absolutely rivetting.... Try the "Bands to Add" list. |
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
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starofsirius
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Joined: January 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 157 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 02:05 |
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Personally I prefer Muse over Radiohead by quite a large margin. I wouldn't mind seeing Muse on here really, I've always thought of them on the fringes of prog rock. |
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"I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
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poetic-killer
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Joined: January 18 2005 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 28 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 04:46 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=1033
The Mars Volta are already in, bub. And rightfully so, I might add.
I think that Muse's Space Dimentia and Micro Cuts are definitely prog rock pieces, for it's a certain combination between classical music and rock, in this case, alternative rock. But those are pretty much the only songs that really do fall into this category. Unlike Radiohead, Muse are usually more straight foward musically (and lyrically, but that's irrelevant, I suppose). Either way, they have really shifted away from this direction with the poppish 'Absolution' album, which aside for a misplaced quote by rahmaminov in the middle of a song, doesn't have any real classical influence in the composition. Stocholm Syndrome, though, is totally a prog-metal song! Anyway, Doves and Elbow, totally NOT prog. not by a long shot. |
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Solstice Coil - alternative progressive rock from Israel
http://www.solstice.co.il |
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Captain Fudge
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Joined: December 21 2004 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 238 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 08:32 |
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They are too mucxh on UK's MTV2... Too obscure... They don't strike out as Radihead did, and no album of theirs makes you think about the fabled condition humaine, like OKC and Kid A do
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder Epic. Simply epic. |
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ShrinkingViolet
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Joined: April 11 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 433 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 08:55 |
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Muse are better than Radiohead *dont hit me:-P*
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Man Erg
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 26 2004 Location: Isle of Lucy Status: Offline Points: 7456 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 09:04 |
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And if The Velvet Underground were nominated people would say that there were...Velvetclones 
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb. |
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felixxx
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Joined: January 15 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 260 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 15:05 |
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Even they are much closer to prog music than radiohead i don't agree to
add them because they represent the todays music and the todays music
sucks. All these new bands recycle the old ones. I know that you will
call me closeminded but i dont care this is only my opinion i may be
wrong!
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frenchie
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Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
Posted: January 18 2005 at 18:22 |
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i dont see why ppl compare radiohead and muse so tightly. i prefer radiohead tho muse are incredible and i mean truely incredible. muse started off as radiohead clones with showbiz but took their own unique direction, they have their similarities but are ultimately completely different bands. yet everyone seems to lump them together.
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The Worthless Recluse
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Certif1ed
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Posted: January 19 2005 at 05:45 |
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Probably because of the occasional uncanny similarities between Thom's voice and Matt's voice |
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Jim Prog Wizard
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Joined: December 23 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 07:48 |
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The popularity of a band does not denote the progressive-ness of their music. Muse are much closer to prog-rock than Radiohead
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"Progressive Rock is the ultimate form of music" (Mikael Akerfeldt, 2003)
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Captain Fudge
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Joined: December 21 2004 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 238 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 08:11 |
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Why? They are radio-friendly, and they sell out like hell and all the teenyboppers in Britain loooove them. Period.
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Teenage sucks hard -- Emo sucks even harder Epic. Simply epic. |
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Jim Prog Wizard
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Joined: December 23 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 08:28 |
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Muse's music mixes classical and rock influences and weird song structures, and it features great musicanship. Whether they are popular or not is irrelevant. By the archive definition they are prog. Radiohead, alternatively, are a progressive band, but not necessarily prog-rock. |
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"Progressive Rock is the ultimate form of music" (Mikael Akerfeldt, 2003)
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JrKASperov
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Posted: January 19 2005 at 11:17 |
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This discussion in this thread is the reason I don't consider this site to be about prog anymore.
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Epic.
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zappa123
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Joined: July 13 2004 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 153 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 11:54 |
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Well I think nowadays we can put almost everything on prog.
Muse,Radiohead......I don't know.I think they are way out of prog. |
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Certif1ed
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 15:40 |
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Yes, but you don't think Dark Side of the Moon is prog! |
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frenchie
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Joined: July 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2234 |
Posted: January 19 2005 at 16:30 |
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i agree with the muse prog relations but they still arent prog enuff to be on this site, we are being overrun by bands that arent prog at all
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The Worthless Recluse
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 28704 |
Posted: January 20 2005 at 03:02 |
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So are Muse more or less prog than say IQ? I love both bands equally but I am very confused about what is considered to be prog or not.IQ have blatantly ripped off Genesis 'Suppers Ready' for their 'Harvest Of Souls'..so that's prog then.Muse are making original music with prog influences..so they are not prog then.Seems daft to me.Perhaps this site should just be for Pink Floyd, King Crimson, ELP,Yes and Gabriel era Genesis or clones of these bands.Nothing else is prog then (?!)
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JrKASperov
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Joined: July 07 2004 Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: January 20 2005 at 12:10 |
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It isn't. I can listen to Tiem time and time again, and find that it has no progressive elements; it continues the same basic changing chords pattern throughout the song. It might be more interesting than 80's glamourrock, but hey, it ain't prog. They don't play interesting, innovating, evolving or complex enough parts to do that. |
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Epic.
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alan_pfeifer
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Joined: December 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 823 |
Posted: January 20 2005 at 19:42 |
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Forget Muse! Vote FANTOMAS!
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