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Peter
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 08:40 |
Reed, if "they" speak up, they get ganged up on, stomped, and the situation escalates, or so history here would indicate.
Passive resistance -- me, I'm a hot-head....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 08:48 |
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Peter
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 09:09 |
Anyway, it seems that at any given time, a large number of people here (and even on other forums!) are pissed at me, others are patting me on the back, while the (perhaps wiser) majority sit it out, talk about (gasp!) prog, and wait for the storm to blow over. (I seem to be unable to "bite my tongue.")
Time for me to take a break from all of this, I think, and "earn my keep" around here by writing some (much less controversial!) reviews. < (That "stern smile" is for myself!)
Wonder how long my resolve will last -- as many of you know, this place can be highly addictive!
TTYL
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 09:19 |
thread very carefully
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sigod
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 09:51 |
Velvetclown wrote:
thread very carefully |
How elegantly put.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 12:05 |
Peter wrote:
Reed, if "they" speak up, they get ganged up on, stomped, and the situation escalates, or so history here would indicate.
Passive resistance -- me, I'm a hot-head....
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So,they keep their heads below the parapet.
That's called cowardice in my book.
I'd rather break wind in the Halls of the Mighty!
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Garion81
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 12:15 |
Well Peter, it is nice to know you care about all people’s feelings it seems no matter where they come from. I have debated on this place everything from what a republican is or isn't to why do we have deficits in our federal governments budget. I find that the world first of all has a greater knowledge of our systems, policies and practices of government than we here in America do of theirs. (I also see we are the only country attacked or criticized for anything and everything from our president to our many faiths. These critisims are not always nice and some become personal. )
At the same time though these opinions seem to have only one general view. I do not think everything they say is correct or accurate just as I think that everything my government says is correct and accurate. It is all a matter of perception. It is like trying to describe a battle scene some people from what they hear from others and othes describing what it was like to be in it. Neither one is a complete nor accurate representation of what it really is.
I have no problem with criticism of my government or my country. Just be fair and listen to what we write back. Place it along side your own perception and see if it makes sense. That is all. America ain't perfect !!!!! I am the first American to say so. If you don't like GWB he will be gone like it or not in 4 years. He won't have a choice. That is also our system.
And Reed, you know I would much rather laugh than argue. I really agree with your post. I really do try to take a lighthearted approach to everything here (Hell, how can you take much here seriously? ) and join in the fun as much as possible! Becoming more childlike sometimes is a good thing.
Gdub it is time to call off the invasion.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 15:26 |
I have not yet heard "Dark Matter, but I understand some of the lyrics question some US policies. As such, the album and its contents are a legitimate topic for discussion here.
I don't percieve much anti American feeling in the IQ thread, other than some trolling by Miyaru, and some minor feeding of the trolls. I thought Lobster made some excellent points, and spoke in a considered and sensible way.
I don't think there is "Relentless American bashing" in the forum, but there will always be those who get their kicks from making inflamatory comments. If I had a penny for every time someone has suggested Scots are mean, I'd have nine pounds and fifty six pence by now, (which I could have invested at a good rate of interest too!)
Have a good break Peter, hurry back! Time you wrote a decent review anyway!
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gdub411
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 15:49 |
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gdub411
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Posted: January 06 2005 at 16:24 |
Peter wrote:
Anyway, it seems that at any given time, a large number of people here (and even on other forums!) are pissed at me, others are patting me on the back, while the (perhaps wiser) majority sit it out, talk about (gasp!) prog, and wait for the storm to blow over. (I seem to be unable to "bite my tongue.")
Time for me to take a break from all of this, I think, and "earn my keep" around here by writing some (much less controversial!) reviews. < (That "stern smile" is for myself!)
Wonder how long my resolve will last -- as many of you know, this place can be highly addictive!
TTYL
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Oh Geez Peter...you better not be gone for long. Who cares what other think of America? What will I do without your wisdom and insight? Now I'll have to create another identity for this place. If I ,of all people on this forum , can saywho cares , then so can tolerant Peter.
Anyways I find their bashing ...well....imformative....and kind of endearing.
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sigod
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 06:14 |
gdub411 wrote:
[QUOTE=Peter]
...you better not be gone for long. Who cares what other think of America? What will I do without your wisdom and insight? Now I'll have to create another identity for this place. If I ,of all people on this forum , can saywho cares , then so can tolerant Peter.
Anyways I find their bashing ...well....imformative....and kind of endearing.
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Quite right Gdub. Hurry back too Peter, this forum is a better place for your input. Opinion, right or wrong as always better voiced than kept to yourself.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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James Lee
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 15:15 |
Peter: I say this with all esteem and friendship...but your icon should be a revolving door!
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Peter
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 15:32 |
James Lee wrote:
Peter: I say this with all esteem and friendship...but your icon should be a revolving door! |
I just need a break James -- write some reviews, sleep, work & read more, etc.
I'm not angry or anything, just trying to control my own life/computer use.
Bye for now,
Ps: when I return, I vow to have a thicker skin, and "defend" only myself. (Though I might post the odd "."
TTYL, all! Be good!
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 15:38 |
I'll give it a week at most.........see you soon.
Peter Ridesout again! More farewells than Sinatra
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James Lee
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:05 |
He's got a good point. Here it is, one of the few gloriously incongruous days we have snow on the ground here in Vegas, and instead of being out in it, I'm on the PC chatting about a 30 year old Yes album and a bunch of books that are at least twice as old. Maybe I should follow his lead and get something important done for once!
OK, I'm back. It's cold and wet and real people can see me out there.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: January 07 2005 at 16:09 |
James Lee wrote:
It's cold and wet and real people can see me out there |
You want to watch that reality stuff, James..... stay here where it's nice & warm and virtual.
Hmmmm - maybe that's why my body's succumbing to atrophy, and the only muscles left are those in my fingertips
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threefates
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Posted: January 08 2005 at 04:40 |
You know.. you can bash America all you want... but just leave ELP alone!!!
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THIS IS ELP
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tuxon
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Posted: January 08 2005 at 04:42 |
Don't tempt me
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Psychoskull
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Posted: January 08 2005 at 12:36 |
Of course, its normal that when a big country screws up somewhere, it gets bashed like theres
no tomorrow. Here in quebec, EVERYONE seem to be anti american.
Everyone pictures EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN to be a fat, ultra
conservationnist war monger. Complete with a cowboy hat.
They think youre all little George W Bushes!
Ok, well right now, I am generalizing too, saying all Quebecers generalize! AAAUGH! SOMEONE HALP.
But internet helps! With internet, people can actually have a contact
with the guys they have stereotypes with. I had strong racial
stereotypes before, and I lost pretty much all of them.
And if you hear someone doing an anti american rant, all BOMBS AWAY, tell him that:
If ANY other country had USA's economical and militairy power, its
government would get an Imperialist behavior too. Its NORMAL. Any
country where the media is very important and influent, and where
religion is omnipresent, is VERY easy to control by it government.
I wonder what would have been the atmosphere on forums if internet
existed during the second world war. Now THAT would have caused
some serious bashings.
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The way of the cucumber.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: January 08 2005 at 12:44 |
Halp ?????
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