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threefates
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:11 |
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made....
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benny bouncer
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:16 |
He is the best percussionist!
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:19 |
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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greenback
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:54 |
ooops: I forgot to name: ED MANN!
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richardh
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:05 |
5 players stand out for me:
Carl Palmer at his peak was awesome.Was their truly a more influential prog drummer? Just Pictures at An Exhibition would be sufficient to cement his place amongst the most technically adept drummers of a generation,but then you add Tarkus,Barabarian,Toccata plus that distinctive shuffle on Fanfare For The Common Man.He took prog drumming to a new level IMO.
Bill Bruford contributed to the great Yes line up that took the world by storm and Phil Collins deserves some recognition for Lamb etc.Also worthy of a mention is Jon Hiseman who by his own proclamation was the best English jazz drummer of the sixties.Colosseum's Valentine Suite backs that claim and shows him crossing over into prog extremely well.Last but not least is Neil Peart.If he had only ever done Tom Sawyer then he would still be a legend!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:12 |
danbo wrote:
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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Well 19 studio albums is rather a lot!
BTW, I have read 1000's of interviews, literally. I browse Modern Drummer, Percussionist etc for free at my local WH Smiths
Believe me Bruford's name doesnt come up as often as it should!
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threefates
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:24 |
Thats because among percussionists... even tho Bruford has played for everyone and in every genre almost... he's still a very technical player.. and missing a lot of the feeling from his work. He's never done anything that has made me go..."OMG - how did he do that"?? Carl does that to me every time...
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:25 |
Wheres that Muir Guy that played on Larks' Tounges In Aspic, eh?
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:25 |
Reed Lover wrote:
danbo wrote:
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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Well 19 studio albums is rather a lot!
BTW, I have read 1000's of interviews, literally. I browse Modern Drummer, Percussionist etc for free at my local WH Smiths
Believe me Bruford's name doesnt come up as often as it should!
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Yeah, I'm always checkin' out Modern Drummer, Relix, all the music mags at Barnes and Noble, and Borders, my local book stores.  I stick more to guitar mags, but MD, Relix and a few others are okay. Rolling Stone is a piece of rubbish and I won't stem the flow of a mortal fermoral artery wound with that rag.
Neil gets his fair share.... Keith Moon, John Bonham and a buncha others are always bandied about. I found BB's name came up often enough to know he's a drummer's drummer and he's played in enough different forumlas to proove it.
BTW, My dad can kick yer dad's arse, er, ehm, if he were still alive...
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Wizard/TRueStar
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:27 |
threefates wrote:
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made.... |
I didn't Know he played on Foxtrot, Animals, Todd rundgren's Utopia, Close to the Edge, Larks' Tounges In Aspic and Peter Gabriel III!!!!!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:28 |
danbo wrote:
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BTW, My dad can kick yer dad's arse, er, ehm, if he were still alive...
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I know it sounded like that, but I have done enough browsing to be done for loitering!
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 19:09 |
Me too. I always get the evil looks from the shop keepers.
Jamie Muir? I heard he went nuts and ended up in a monastery or something.
That's a good one for Dick... He'd know or knows someone who would know.
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 19:58 |
i voted for airto
he's the man- loved him on the brew, weather report, chick corea, everything, just amazing
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DallasBryan
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Posted: November 29 2004 at 21:00 |
try Airto's The Other Side of This, with Kitaro, Mickey
Hart, and those hindu dudes.
some credits
Phil played on the Genesis classics, Brian Enos
Another Green World and Brand Xs early releases.
Jaki played with Can and Michael Rother after Neu
and Holger Czukay solos.
Michael played with Santana and Klaus Schulze,
Abraxas Pool plus solo.
Airto played with every jazz fusion musician in Creed
Taylors arsenal once he arrived from Brazil and solo.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 05:29 |
danbo wrote:
Jamie Muir? I heard he went nuts and ended up in a monastery or something.
That's a good one for Dick... He'd know or knows someone who would know.
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"I'll ask Sid".
Or are you thinking of the storyline of the excellent Brit movie "Still Crazy"
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threefates
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:34 |
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
threefates wrote:
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made.... |
I didn't Know he played on Foxtrot, Animals, Todd rundgren's Utopia, Close to the Edge, Larks' Tounges In Aspic and Peter Gabriel III!!!!!
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They should of asked him if they had wanted those albums to be in the top 6...
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sigod
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 11:54 |
Peter wrote:
None of the above....
Mr. William Bruford.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 12:22 |
In demand session drummers who seem to guest on every other album one picks up, come to mind, e.g.
Vinnie Colaiuta, Simon Phillips, Dennis Chambers and Dave Weckl
and they coincidently meet somebody's requirement of having played on prog rock albums
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Reed Lover
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 14:24 |
Obviously falling on deaf ears!

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frenchie
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Posted: December 01 2004 at 15:13 |
you left out too many good drummers. and phil collins certainly dont represent the UK for best drummer.
bruford, white, mason, portnoy, carey. where the hell are they?
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