TOP PROG PERCUSSIONIST
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Topic: TOP PROG PERCUSSIONIST
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: TOP PROG PERCUSSIONIST
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:01
who had the most influence world wide?
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:08
None of the above....
Mr. William Bruford.
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:24
he's gay lkfgb ,,,, tha notglclbf me
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:39
What an ignorant ar*ewipe.
Leave, already, before I activley lobby to have you removed.
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 22:44
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: November 28 2004 at 23:52
I just saw the top prog percussionist in action... the mighty Carl Palmer. My heart is still beating to his bass drum....
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 00:55
Agree with Peter,the one that has more influence is Bill Bruford, played in 18 bands, three of the big 5 prog, playd Rock, Prog' and Jazz, what else do you want?
Mow as a personal taste, I like Manu Katche's style very much and a non prog' drummer Fergal Lawler from Cranberries, he's outstanding even if you don't like the music.
Iván
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 03:04
Have not heard of the last three in the poll. Dont know where I've been all these years, but these strike me as unusual choices 
I voted Phill Collins.
I would agree that Bill Bruford has been influential, but to be honest Neil Peart would win any 'best drummer' polls IMO.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 04:58
Pray tell me in their long and rich careers, what recordings makes you think the majority of Michael Shrieve and Airto Moreira recordings (as leader or session player) are Progressive Rock? And whilst you are comtemplating that, consider why you have ignored Nana Vasconcelos, Zakir Hussain and Trilok Gurtu (how many times has Gurtu been voted top world percussionist, e.g. by Downbeat magazine)?
Dallabryan I think you are taking the piss - will you kindly replace it, flush the toilet , and wash your hands before leaving this place of convenience.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 05:22
Bill Bruford
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 05:55
Definitely Bruford.
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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 06:09
the one and only, beautiful, lovely, most sexy, extraordinary,Inca roadish,gorilla taming
Ruth Underwood!Take it away Ruth.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 06:15
Oops forget about her! Sorry Ruth!
Ruth & Bill! 
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 12:19
i name:
ruth underwood and mireille bauer (gong)
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 12:25
Bruford broke down many many doors. He's performed in numerous genre's and has never been stuck in any groove. Jazz, Fusion, Rock, avante-garde... constantly evolving and pushing boundaries.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 15:00
danbo wrote:
Bruford broke down many many doors. He's performed in numerous genre's and has never been stuck in any groove. Jazz, Fusion, Rock, avante-garde... constantly evolving and pushing boundaries.
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Peart & Bruford
Some times the obvious answer just happens to be the correct answer. Nothing to choose between the two, but on all known evidence (interviews etc) Peart has been the most influential drummer over the last 25 years.
As Cert would put it :that is not opinion it is a statement of fact!
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 15:17
Of course that is in the opinion of only those drummer interviews YOU'VE read. I've read quite a few myself that regularly name Bruford AND Peart as an influence.
Both are in my TOP 5, BTW. 
Oh, I'm about as good at drumming as you are at sit-ups. hehehehehe 
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 15:42
Jaki Liebezeit
Followed by Robert Wyatt,Stomu Yamashta,Klaus Schulze,
Mani Neumeier Guy Evans and Pierre Moerlen
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Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 16:37
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:09
ivan_2068
Dick Heath
greenback
Man Erg
make interesting points, I truly believe that for a
drummer to be the most influencal he needs to have
played on some of best progressive recordings.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:11
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made....
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Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:16
He is the best percussionist!
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:19
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 17:54
ooops: I forgot to name: ED MANN!
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:05
5 players stand out for me:
Carl Palmer at his peak was awesome.Was their truly a more influential prog drummer? Just Pictures at An Exhibition would be sufficient to cement his place amongst the most technically adept drummers of a generation,but then you add Tarkus,Barabarian,Toccata plus that distinctive shuffle on Fanfare For The Common Man.He took prog drumming to a new level IMO.
Bill Bruford contributed to the great Yes line up that took the world by storm and Phil Collins deserves some recognition for Lamb etc.Also worthy of a mention is Jon Hiseman who by his own proclamation was the best English jazz drummer of the sixties.Colosseum's Valentine Suite backs that claim and shows him crossing over into prog extremely well.Last but not least is Neil Peart.If he had only ever done Tom Sawyer then he would still be a legend!
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:12
danbo wrote:
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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Well 19 studio albums is rather a lot!
BTW, I have read 1000's of interviews, literally. I browse Modern Drummer, Percussionist etc for free at my local WH Smiths
Believe me Bruford's name doesnt come up as often as it should!
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:24
Thats because among percussionists... even tho Bruford has played for everyone and in every genre almost... he's still a very technical player.. and missing a lot of the feeling from his work. He's never done anything that has made me go..."OMG - how did he do that"?? Carl does that to me every time...
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:25
Wheres that Muir Guy that played on Larks' Tounges In Aspic, eh?
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:25
Reed Lover wrote:
danbo wrote:
Seriously, Bill Burford's resume' reads like a who's who of many genre's. Jazz, Avante Garde, Rock, Progressive... Except for Tony Levin, Bruford may be one of the most recorded musicians of the past 30-35 years.
Besides Bruford and Earthworks, there is Bill's work with Yes, King Crimson, Nationa Health, Pavlov's Dog, David Torn, Steve Howe, Al Di Meola, Kazumi Watanbe, BLUE, Gordian Knot, Genesis, The Roaches, Roy Harper, Moraz, Squire, U.K., Rick Wakeman... and I could go on and on and on....
I love Peart's playing, but other than Rush and a few one off recordings... what else has he really done?
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Well 19 studio albums is rather a lot!
BTW, I have read 1000's of interviews, literally. I browse Modern Drummer, Percussionist etc for free at my local WH Smiths
Believe me Bruford's name doesnt come up as often as it should!
| Yeah, I'm always checkin' out Modern Drummer, Relix, all the music mags at Barnes and Noble, and Borders, my local book stores. I stick more to guitar mags, but MD, Relix and a few others are okay. Rolling Stone is a piece of rubbish and I won't stem the flow of a mortal fermoral artery wound with that rag.
Neil gets his fair share.... Keith Moon, John Bonham and a buncha others are always bandied about. I found BB's name came up often enough to know he's a drummer's drummer and he's played in enough different forumlas to proove it.
BTW, My dad can kick yer dad's arse, er, ehm, if he were still alive...
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Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:27
threefates wrote:
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made.... |
I didn't Know he played on Foxtrot, Animals, Todd rundgren's Utopia, Close to the Edge, Larks' Tounges In Aspic and Peter Gabriel III!!!!!
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 18:28
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 19:09
Me too. I always get the evil looks from the shop keepers.
Jamie Muir? I heard he went nuts and ended up in a monastery or something.
That's a good one for Dick... He'd know or knows someone who would know.
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 19:58
i voted for airto
he's the man- loved him on the brew, weather report, chick corea, everything, just amazing
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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: November 29 2004 at 21:00
try Airto's The Other Side of This, with Kitaro, Mickey
Hart, and those hindu dudes.
some credits
Phil played on the Genesis classics, Brian Enos
Another Green World and Brand Xs early releases.
Jaki played with Can and Michael Rother after Neu
and Holger Czukay solos.
Michael played with Santana and Klaus Schulze,
Abraxas Pool plus solo.
Airto played with every jazz fusion musician in Creed
Taylors arsenal once he arrived from Brazil and solo.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 05:29
danbo wrote:
Jamie Muir? I heard he went nuts and ended up in a monastery or something.
That's a good one for Dick... He'd know or knows someone who would know.
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"I'll ask Sid".
Or are you thinking of the storyline of the excellent Brit movie "Still Crazy"
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 08:34
Wizard/TRueStar wrote:
threefates wrote:
Carl Palmer played on the top 6 progressive recordings ever made.... |
I didn't Know he played on Foxtrot, Animals, Todd rundgren's Utopia, Close to the Edge, Larks' Tounges In Aspic and Peter Gabriel III!!!!!
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They should of asked him if they had wanted those albums to be in the top 6...
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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 11:54
Peter wrote:
None of the above....
Mr. William Bruford.
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I say aye to that 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 12:22
In demand session drummers who seem to guest on every other album one picks up, come to mind, e.g.
Vinnie Colaiuta, Simon Phillips, Dennis Chambers and Dave Weckl
and they coincidently meet somebody's requirement of having played on prog rock albums
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 14:24
Obviously falling on deaf ears!

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 15:13
you left out too many good drummers. and phil collins certainly dont represent the UK for best drummer.
bruford, white, mason, portnoy, carey. where the hell are they?
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: December 01 2004 at 16:34
Bashem, smashem, Carey?? 
The drummer's drummer...

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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 05:19
Posted By: USAGirl
Date Posted: March 21 2006 at 06:34
Isn't the question about "percussionist" and not "drummer"? This should include tuned percussion too, of course, and when it comes to that the band to beat are Gong with three excellent tuned percussionists: The Moerlen brothers (Pierre and Benoit) and Mireille Bauer. I discovered Gong in the collection of Friede and Jean (they recommended them to me because I was looking for music with flute in it, and I am a great fan of Didier Malherbe). The percussion orgies of Gong during the Pierre Moerlen era are simply incredible.
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Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: March 22 2006 at 06:55
Posted By: DrWizard
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 16:10
Technically-Peart
Creatively-Portnoy
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 17:45
USAGirl wrote:
Isn't the question about "percussionist" and not "drummer"? This should include tuned percussion too, of course.
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Posted By: kebjourman
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 18:17
Posted By: cowbell1
Date Posted: May 01 2006 at 19:00
Gabriel and Collins are the best drummers from the UK. Peart and Bruford are the best US drummer.
Peart is the best multi percussionist in history.
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Posted By: darius
Date Posted: May 03 2006 at 02:23
MR. Collins
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 12:06
Peter Rideout wrote:
None of the above....
Mr. William Bruford. |
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Posted By: UnknownFlow
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 12:29
ANDREW wrote:
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That's a kit and a half!
Peart, Bruford, Palmer. Probably most influential for Prog. Peart and Bonham probably most influential for rock in general.
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 14:01
DEFINITELY ALEX ACUÑA, FROM WEATHER REPORT !!
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 03 2006 at 14:04
Hey people, we´re talking about percusionists, not drummers ....
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Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:06
Posted By: Kord
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 17:08
where is Robert Wyatt? and Neil Peart?...and Portnoy???
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: June 04 2006 at 20:18
as my sister (USAGirl) already mentioned, no-one beats Gong when it
comes down to percussion, and that's a fact. the Moerlen brothers and
Mireille Bauer are (or in the case of Pierre Moerlen sadly were )
the top of the crop on ANY percussion instrument, tuned or untuned. and
Pierre Moerlen is definitely my favorite drummer too. no-one else has
such highly original ideas for fill-ins as he, and his polyrhythms are
incredible. both Pierre Moerlen and Mireille Bauer received the Premier
Prix du Percussion of the university of Strasbourg, Moerlen in 1972,
Bauer in 1974, and that's an honor which is not dealt out often (the
university of Strasbourg has a very high reputation for educating
percussionists)
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