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pero
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 07:16 |
Blacksword wrote:
chopper wrote:
Personally I wouldn't worry about it, it's their loss not yours. If people prefer listen to CDs by X Factor contestants () rather than Yes, then that's up to them. |
For now. You wait 'til the prog revolotution comes. They'll be first against the Wall...and I do mean The Wall!
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And above their heads helicopters will flying (i dont know the exact song from the wall with them).
Like in Apoclypse now the music will not be Wagner, but Yes
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Syzygy
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:04 |
aprusso wrote:
It's one of the big tragedies our age! The fact is, not all people are music lovers, most appreciate music only as entertainment and not as a form of art. The thing is evn worse with classical music, people say they like it (it's bad to say otherwise) but then, how many people actually buy a classical music album, except from the occasional gift or some Beethoven?
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Tsunami in SE Asia - genocide in Rwanda - earthquake in Pakistan - tragic blunders in the Middle East - 9/11 - 2/3 0f the world's population subsisting on less than $1 a day - some people don't like prog.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:16 |
aprusso wrote:
It's one of the big tragedies our age! The fact is, not all people are music lovers, most appreciate music only as entertainment and not as a form of art. The thing is evn worse with classical music, people say they like it (it's bad to say otherwise) but then, how many people actually buy a classical music album, except from the occasional gift or some Beethoven?
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That's true. The kind of people who say they like all styles of music. Actually, they like nothing, except the
very easy listening commercial radio pseudo music.
To really like "cerebral" music like classical and prog (opposed to dancing music), involves to have a comtemplative nature somehow. I spend at least four hours everyday in front of my hifi system. Most people can't understand that and will spend this time in front of the TV. For them, music is a ground noise to listen to in the car.
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Paul K.
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:21 |
Strange situation. I always thought, that music everybody hates is metal. Actually I came from death/black/power/thrash metal music and know what I'm talking about.Everytime I used to listen to this people just hated it.
Haven't tried to play prog for them, I think they will find it boring, but not hate it.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:23 |
Moan moan moan. Christ! Why do you think the PA forum exists? SO PROGGERS CAN TALK ABOUT PROG WITH FELLOW PROGGERS! So what if your mum doesn't like King Crimson? 80% of the 7075 members on this forum do. Stop complaining, accept that taste is subjective, and talk about the music you love with others who love it too.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:27 |
Yes, but the issue of this fascinating thread is to try to understand why people are so hermetic to real music -not only prog-.
Same for "why female don't like prog/music"?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:31 |
oliverstoned wrote:
Yes, but the issue of this fascinating thread is to try to understand why people are so hermetic to real music -not only prog-. Same for "why female don't like prog/music"? |
Lots of people don't like to think. End of matter.
As for the male/female thing - it's an utter myth.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:33 |
It's a little short!
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Rosescar
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 08:36 |
Trouserpress wrote:
oliverstoned wrote:
Yes, but the issue of this
fascinating thread is to try to understand why people are so hermetic
to real music -not only prog-. Same for "why female don't like prog/music"? | As for the male/female thing - it's an utter myth. |
I disagree!
I actually am a bit thankful that not everybody likes prog, because
some people only like certain things because they think they're supposed
to like it. How would you like it if some fella would praise Close To
The Edge for the lyrics, and not for the music? It'd be a slap in the
face to me.
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My music!
"THE AUDIENCE WERE generally drugged. (In Holland, always)." - Robert Fripp
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PROGMAN
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:04 |
I was playing Camel's - 'Rhyader' and my sister said it sounded like a Television programme!! (Yeah Right!!, not)
and I was playing Genesis Foxtrot and she outbursted "This isn't Rock"( I hate that, oh I a know it all judgement!!)
god don't non prog fans understand good quality music, people like my sister likes music that goes:
thump, thump, thump, and sampled manufactered crap
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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Zitro
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:12 |
Actually, SnowGoose (and especially Nude) sounds like good quality videogame music to me.
I could hear Rhyader when a character is introduced in the game.
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Zitro
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:18 |
It annoys me that music is so terrible nowadays, but oh well ...
Lets just be happy that we don't follow it.
It's not a tragedy.
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:25 |
That's not entirelly true. I, for once, love rogressive rock, as everyone here. We all have our preferences and our differences regarding the meaning of this music, but we all love it, and most of us know how to recognize the artistic value of the works, even if we don't like a particular album or stuff like that. Now, about girlfriend, family and etc., well, there's nothing to do. My girl likes prog very much, but not the same prog I like the most. Being as emotional as she is, dramatic or melancholic music (the first half of Matching mole's homonimous; Sigur Rós, etc.) works. Well, actually, she also likes jazz, so, yes, she is also into Magma. The thing is, it is always important to share some of the interests. Music, for example, is important as for what is one build off. I mean, a poetic soul and a pragmatic one may not be the brightest idea in terms of couple. Anyway, good luck with that, and remember: not everyone hates prog.
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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Christian
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:28 |
I do believe it is about the "not thinking" and the MTV culture more than anything Whatever, never give up! I am working my way in (bottom up) with my two teenage daughters; one now really likes Stream of Passion, and the other one (tougher) likes Muse. So there is some hope!
They do have a hard time understanding my enthusiasm for epics though........
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MiniGorbi
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:33 |
One in my family likes prog and some friends but beside that none that I know likes it.
I bet that meny in this forum like some prog music
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hdfisch
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 09:47 |
IF
ALMOST EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE PROG IT WOULD BE MAINSTREAM MUSIC! WOULD
YOU PREFER THAT? AND WOULD YOU NOT ASK YOURSELF WHAT CAN BE THAT
SPECIAL ABOUT IT IF EVERYONE LIKES IT?
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To be prog or not to be, that's not the question!
Sillyam Likesbeer
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Padraic
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 10:01 |
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A'swepe
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 10:20 |
My take FWIW:
Our society (at least in the US) is geared toward instant gratification - just look at all the fast food places on every corner in this country. Additionally, we have developed a "Short-Attention-Span" mentality. After all just tune into CNN or Headline News, or Sports Center & get everything you need to know (sic) in 30 minutes or less.
On top of that people seem to have forgotten how to think for themselves, relying on CNN or Sports Center to tell them what to watch, what to listen to, who is HOT & who is Not, & unfortunately, what to think about everything that is important.
Prog requires the listener to actually Listen to the music, to get involved, to sing the lyrics or hum the melody. Prog is cerebral & most of the good stuff requires active participation. I don't listen to Prog when I'm cleaning the house. I listen to Prog when I want to hear the music.
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mrdurganator
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 10:50 |
The Ryan wrote:
People are desensitized to the stupidity of programs such as MTV, their friends, and radio. At least in America this is the way it is and has been for a few decades, there's no real structure to the music industry, everybody popular is a one hit wonder. Every kid has a new favorite band every two weeks, and that is a sad story. When I'm in the car with a friend, he or she will consistently spend 1 minute, maybe 2, on a song then move on to another station/song. Usually songs are three minutes, or 3:30, people aren't even finishing listening their music!!! It's almost like the teenagers of today are subconsciously not enjoying what they are listening to, yet cannot realize this fact. |
i'm just turned 16 and i detest people like that, they don't even bother to buy albums even, they just download one song- and can't even listen to just that one damn song!!!
a lot of people just don't have the patience for prog, or anything with a little intelligence.
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is there anybody out there?
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The Wizard
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Posted: March 29 2006 at 11:16 |
mrdurganator wrote:
The Ryan wrote:
People are desensitized to the stupidity of programs such as MTV, their friends, and radio. At least in America this is the way it is and has been for a few decades, there's no real structure to the music industry, everybody popular is a one hit wonder. Every kid has a new favorite band every two weeks, and that is a sad story. When I'm in the car with a friend, he or she will consistently spend 1 minute, maybe 2, on a song then move on to another station/song. Usually songs are three minutes, or 3:30, people aren't even finishing listening their music!!! It's almost like the teenagers of today are subconsciously not enjoying what they are listening to, yet cannot realize this fact. |
i'm just turned 16 and i detest people like that, they don't even bother to buy albums even, they just download one song- and can't even listen to just that one damn song!!!
a lot of people just don't have the patience for prog, or anything with a little intelligence.
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One reason kids only download one song is because thats apparetly the only good song on the album. It's partially the artist fault because they can't make consistent albums.
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