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Points: 608 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2004 at 22:10

Quote I think Chris Squire could give Geddy Lee a good fight, both are incredible bass players and their originality is unique.

Billy Sheehan, too.
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WOOOOO! VAI IS GOD!

And Wakeman could take anyone, even Rudess
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2004 at 05:03
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Methinks thou dost understimate Mr Lee, Mr Heath. Jeff is an acknowledged "great" of the bass guitar but for musicians in North America, Geddy has been the most influencial bassist of the last 25 years and I am not talking fan base either.



Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence.

Obviously Jeff Berlin has been  involved in a number of rock albums (and  with Neil Peart), but how's is Geddy Lee's jazz electric bass playing? 

Sorry to be vague Dick,

I was referring to rock bass playing as this is a progressive rock site.

 

Sorry this is a progressive rock site , which includes jazz rock - I've left plenty of reminders why jazz rock (not the broader jazz fusion) was and still can be considered an element of progressive rock, as well as modern jazz. Similarly arguements can be made for folk proggie band being folk as well as prog.



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Points: 1324 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2004 at 13:21

Steve Howe vs. Anyone :D

Chris Squire Vs, Geddy Lee

 

Alan white vs. Bill Bruford

 

 
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Points: 830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2004 at 22:12
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:


Neil Peart vs. Bill Bruford (although rush is my fav band, and neil is unreal, bruford might be a little better i think. (Drums)


Geddy Lee vs. Jeff Berlin (Geddy is my favorite rock bassist, but that is because of his feel and style, plus he's wikid cool. Jeff also plays jazz and such though, and he's really good at it, so I vote Jeff. (Bass)


Steve Morse vs. John McLaughlin (Electric Guitar)


Kieth Emerson vs. Rick Wakeman (Keyboards)


John Lawton vs. Any takers ...i dont know who this is or what he plays so f#ck it.



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"Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence."

Amen to that.

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My Father was an amateur jazz drummer, and his hero was of course, Gene Krupa.....Now my dad could play a bit and so could my grandad ! - However my father did listen to some of my music and in his opinion - Neil Peart was the finest modern drummer he had heard, and his favorite bit of drumming in my record collection at the time.....

Gates of delirium (middle section) - Alan White - My dad thought it was truly amazing....and I would have to agree !

Three fates - Sorry petal, but the caped crusader would get my vote over Emerson, Mainly for the Church organ supremacy !

Guitar - Howe gets it for the sheer "clankingness" of his guitar, just above Hackett whos playing is smoother than a Roxy music track.....
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Points: 5243 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2004 at 12:52

Hmm,

I wonder how the Prog gods could actually fair against the likes of McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Shawn Lane (RIP), Hellborg, Jimmy Johnson, Chad Wackerman, and a host of others.

Quite like comparing apples to oranges.

What features or techniques are actually measurable?  

Speed, accuracy, difficulty of piece played? Feel and Emotion are subjective.

So then, what's the point?   
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Greg Lake vs. John Wetton

to see how many times they can replace each other a band...
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Originally posted by Azrael2112 Azrael2112 wrote:

Greg Lake vs. John Wetton

to see how many times they can replace each other a band...

Isn't it 2-1 to Wetton?... assuming you count Wetton returning to the band he was in in the first place (Asia).
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Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

Hmm,

I wonder how the Prog gods could actually fair against the likes of McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Shawn Lane (RIP), Hellborg, Jimmy Johnson, Chad Wackerman, and a host of others.

Quite like comparing apples to oranges.

What features or techniques are actually measurable?  

Speed, accuracy, difficulty of piece played? Feel and Emotion are subjective.

So then, what's the point?   

I like speed of light playing. Feel and emotion can take a back seat. One of my favourite guitar duels is John Mclaughlin and Larry Coryell on the album Spaces. If you can find it the Guru Guru album Dace Of The Flames has a guitar player, Houschang Nejadepour who could give McLaughlin, Akkerman, Holdsworth et al a run for their money! Check out the track " The Day Of Timestop". It's like the guy is from another planet, and he' not playing in a slack key either! 
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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2004 at 04:52
Originally posted by Prog_Bassist Prog_Bassist wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:


Neil Peart vs. Bill Bruford (although rush is my fav band, and neil is unreal, bruford might be a little better i think. (Drums)


Geddy Lee vs. Jeff Berlin (Geddy is my favorite rock bassist, but that is because of his feel and style, plus he's wikid cool. Jeff also plays jazz and such though, and he's really good at it, so I vote Jeff. (Bass)


Steve Morse vs. John McLaughlin (Electric Guitar)


Kieth Emerson vs. Rick Wakeman (Keyboards)


John Lawton vs. Any takers ...i dont know who this is or what he plays so f#ck it.



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"Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence."

Amen to that.
John Lawton sang with Lucifer's freind on several albums before joining Uriah Heep in the 70's. Afterwards he went solo and has recently rejoined Uriah Heep as lead singer. There's a DVD out in addition he's got his own DVD out under the name The John Lawton Band. He could easily be mistaken for Ronnie James Dio.
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2004 at 15:20
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Originally posted by danbo danbo wrote:

I wonder how the Prog gods could actually fair against the likes of McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Shawn Lane (RIP), Hellborg, Jimmy Johnson, Chad Wackerman, and a host of others.

Quite like comparing apples to oranges.

I like speed of light playing.
Check out Buckethead on a good day (alas too many off days) for a shreadfest - does a tremendous set with acoustic guitar on  Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve's Octave Of The Holy Innocent

 If you can find it the Guru Guru album Dance Of The Flames has a guitar player, Houschang Nejadepour who could give McLaughlin, Akkerman, Holdsworth et al a run for their money! Check out the track " The Day Of Timestop". It's like the guy is from another planet, and he' not playing in a slack key either! 


You'll have to enlighten me for comparison purposes: while I possess a considerably greater number of Holdsworth and McLaughlin records, I've only have Houschang Nejadepour on two albums. The mentioned Mahavishnu Orchestra-influenced Dance Of the Flames, and on Eiliff's 1972 album Close Encounter With Their Third One - which is more a showcase for Rainer  Bruninghaus's key- (NOTE: Bruninghaus is mostly associated with Jan Garbarek nowdays and the ECM Record label). Neither of these albums'  guitarwork (IMHO) bear any comparison with the two Yorkshire maestros - so I guess I've missed something, where else should I look and listen?
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