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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 10:17
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Don Quito Don Quito wrote:

I do agree with micky. Rush's prog influences come from Yes, and other major progressive rock bands from that era.

But, I would definitely say that besides bands such as The Yardbirds, and The Who, to mention a few, Led Zeppelin influenced Rush on their first self titled album ... Still, Rush were not prog at that time.




was it Zeppelin ..... or was it Cream.   I think we all know that both Lifeson and Geddy were fanatic fans of both Clapton and Jack Bruce, but agree... that  first album HARDLY qualifies as prog hahahahahha.

I'm not saying that Rush's first album qualifies as prog. Rather, I said that the band wasn't a progressive rock band at that time.

Now, I agree that both Geddy and Lifeson were fans of Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton (The Yardbirds and The Who were some of the bands that inspired them too), but definitely Cream was a band that influenced on them.

Alex Lifeson was influenced by Jimmy Page either. Rush's first album sounds pretty much like one of Zeppelin's. Moreover, on tracks like Can't Fight It and Not Fade Away, which are not on any album, although were recorded before the first one, Alex Lifeson sounds just like Page, including the guitar solo on both tracks. Its a replica of Jimmy Page's solos.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 10:37
I think so...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:03

oh and in grace under pressure a song reminds me zeppelin!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:05
Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in their concerts they played very long songs.they had lots of jams.listen to wow the west was won...they have two jams almost 25 minutes each

So...if a band plays a "long song" they are automatically prog?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 19:24
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:

in their concerts they played very long songs.they had lots of jams.listen to wow the west was won...they have two jams almost 25 minutes each

So...if a band plays a "long song" they are automatically prog?

sorry...i forgot to say thet in these songs they have many rythm and melody changes or they play seperate songs in them.i mean 2112 is 7 seperate songs and it is prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 19:40
Sure LZ influenced prog ... then again, prog influenced LZ. Just listen to
tracks like Kashmir or Nobody's Fault But Mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2006 at 21:41

IMO Led Zeppelin were influenced by prog, but prog wasn't influenced by Led Zeppelin.

 

And please don't compare the mighty Zep to Green Day. Jimmy Page wil put a curse on you.......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:21
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

IMO Led Zeppelin were influenced by prog, but prog wasn't influenced by Led Zeppelin.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:23
In our time, a commercial and ultra-sponsored band identified as THE MARS VOLTA, are doing some kind of music-computer mélange with Jimmy Page and Robert Plant pieces of music. If the community accepts them as “prog” band: Is it possible to call that “influence”? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:27
Originally posted by Lateralus_66 Lateralus_66 wrote:


BTW: Do not compare LED ZEPPELIN with GREEN DAY or one of these nights Bonzo will come for you...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 01:17

I think In The Light, Kashmir, and Achilles Last Stand sound Prog, not just because there long.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:53
Double-feeding,  but LZ was more influenced by prog, than prog by them IMHO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:55
Led Zep has been slightly inspired by the prog mood of the time, but not the reverse, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:57
Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Double-feeding,  but LZ was more influenced by prog, than prog by them IMHO.
Thats interesting since I don`t consider LZ at all prog infact I don`t consider them at all anything
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:32
I think they did especially with some of tehir more fantasy based songs. Yet I still say the founders of prog/psycediallia are the Beatles during the Sgt Pepper-Magical mystery tour era
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:49
No, the sound of Led Zeppelin has nothing to do with jazz fusion or Classical. Progressive bands ifluenced from Europian Classical Composers.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 17:09
can i point out that The Mars Volta, though a "modern" prog band, can be seen to have huge Zeppelin influences. A lot of people cite The Mras Volta as the new Zeppelin, though I know fans of Zeppelin that aren't fans of TMV (the progtologist...) will disagree. just a point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 09 2006 at 17:16
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by thanos thanos wrote:


in their concerts they played very long songs.they had lots of
jams.listen to wow the west was won...they have two jams almost 25
minutes each



So...if a band plays a "long song" they are automatically prog?




Cream was among the first to begin the long psycadellic jams (before
Zep.) Is Cream prog?

Or how about the Grateful Dead?

I'm sarcastically speaking, while long jams are great altercations of studio
tracks it doesn't mean a band is prog.
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