did Led Zeppelin influence prog?
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Topic: did Led Zeppelin influence prog?
Posted By: thanos
Subject: did Led Zeppelin influence prog?
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 19:50
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in my opinion they have influenced it i want yours
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Posted By: Ridge
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 19:59
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So it seems I get the first vote. I think that Led Zepp is one of those bands that has influence bands from all sorts of styles. From prog to pop they will always be influential in my book. ------------- Discipline is never an end in it self, only a means to an end. |
Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 20:00
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yes i agree ------------- for any comments:[email protected] |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 20:08
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I tend to think they were more inspired by, than inspiration to.
I understand they were on very friendly terms with Yes, and probably up
on what was going on with the progressive scene.
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Posted By: Catholic Flame
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 20:23
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certainly Rush, Dream Theater, etc. were influenced ------------- “Great things are not accomplished by those who yield to trends and fads and popular opinion.” ~Jack Kerouac |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 20:34
I'm sure our masters of prog metal will correct me if I'm wrong, but Rush's primary PROG influences were Yes, and Uriah Heep from what I've read, and Dream Theater's are Rush, Yes, and..... Marillion (didn't believe that when I first heard that) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Catholic Flame wrote:Posted By: Don Quito
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 20:44
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I do agree with micky. Rush's prog influences come from Yes, and other major progressive rock bands from that era. But, I would definitely say that besides bands such as The Yardbirds, and The Who, to mention a few, Led Zeppelin influenced Rush on their first self titled album ... Still, Rush were not prog at that time. ------------- KEEP THE PROMISE YOU MADE |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:02
was it Zeppelin ..... or was it Cream. I think we all know that both Lifeson and Geddy were fanatic fans of both Clapton and Jack Bruce, but agree... that first album HARDLY qualifies as prog hahahahahha. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: stan the man
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:05
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i dotn think they very much influenced prog though i think no quarter is proggy. Still in my top 5 though. I agree though i guess that they influenced bands like rush. But i dont think they had a huge effect on prog. ------------- true as a lobster in a pteredaktyl's underpants. 
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:34
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Led Zeppelin has nothing to do with prog, they were not influenced by or an influence to prog. Led Zeppelin is not prog. Led Zeppelin took the role in the 60s/70s that Green Day and Fall Out Boy have today. ------------- "The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:53
| well, I think it was the other way around. If you llok at their catalog, it grows staedily more and more progressive as the years go by. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 21:54
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NO They influenced hard rock and heavy metal WAY more than they influenced progressive rock. -------------  |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 22:02
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"Maybe" because we will never actually know- ------------- |
Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 22:43
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to me, there is no way i can believe that Led Zeppelin was not innfluential to prog in any way like some say. I think they were definately familiar with the scene and were torn between creating the rock they loved and the blues they loved. Still I think Zeppelin was an amazing band, possibly my favorite of all time, and I respect them greatly whether or not they were "prog" or prog-influencers ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 22:48
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Maybe.... but in what way do you think they influenced prog?
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Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 23:14
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Obviously a lot of the classic 70s prog bands were so intent on what they were doing that they didn't allow any new inspiration to soak in. Why do you think Gabriel left? Why do you think Yes, Genesis and ELP ran out of gas in the late 70s? I don't think Zep had much influence on existing prog bands, but the bands that grew up listening to them is a whole other story. ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 01 2006 at 23:32
I hope this is a joke. I don't think Zeppelin influenced much of prog but they have a huge influenced on almost all types of hard rock and metal. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Lateralus_66
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 00:56
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Definitely, Yes they did. Their music is based on Rock & Roll and Blues, but songs like “Stairway To Heaven”, “No Quarter”, “In My Time Of Dying”, “Kashmir”, “In The Light” or “Achilles' Last Stand” positively are twisted to prog. Please listen TOOL’s cover of “No Quarter” and you will appreciate the connection with contemporary prog. BTW: Do not compare LED ZEPPELIN with GREEN DAY or one of these nights Bonzo will come for you...   ------------- "A mind is like a parachute. It does'nt work if it's not open." - Frank Zappa |
Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 09:02
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in their concerts they played very long songs.they had lots of jams.listen to wow the west was won...they have two jams almost 25 minutes each ------------- for any comments:[email protected] |
Posted By: Ounamahl
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 09:56
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haha Green Day vs. Led Zeppelin. Nice one. Green Day is far betteR!!!!!!!!!!! ... erm anyway. I voted for yes. |
Posted By: Don Quito
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 10:17
I'm not saying that Rush's first album qualifies as prog. Rather, I said that the band wasn't a progressive rock band at that time. Now, I agree that both Geddy and Lifeson were fans of Jack Bruce and Eric Clapton (The Yardbirds and The Who were some of the bands that inspired them too), but definitely Cream was a band that influenced on them. Alex Lifeson was influenced by Jimmy Page either. Rush's first album sounds pretty much like one of Zeppelin's. Moreover, on tracks like Can't Fight It and Not Fade Away, which are not on any album, although were recorded before the first one, Alex Lifeson sounds just like Page, including the guitar solo on both tracks. Its a replica of Jimmy Page's solos. ------------- KEEP THE PROMISE YOU MADE |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 10:37
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I think so... ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:03
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oh and in grace under pressure a song reminds me zeppelin! ------------- for any comments:[email protected] |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 13:05
So...if a band plays a "long song" they are automatically prog? ------------- |
Posted By: thanos
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 19:24
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 19:40
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Sure LZ influenced prog ... then again, prog influenced LZ. Just listen to
tracks like Kashmir or Nobody's Fault But Mine. |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: February 02 2006 at 21:41
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IMO Led Zeppelin were influenced by prog, but prog wasn't influenced by Led Zeppelin.
And please don't compare the mighty Zep to Green Day. Jimmy Page wil put a curse on you....... -------------  
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Posted By: Lateralus_66
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:21
IMO, it’s double-feeding. ------------- "A mind is like a parachute. It does'nt work if it's not open." - Frank Zappa |
Posted By: Lateralus_66
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:23
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In our time, a commercial and ultra-sponsored band identified as THE MARS VOLTA, are doing some kind of music-computer mélange with Jimmy Page and Robert Plant pieces of music. If the community accepts them as “prog” band: Is it possible to call that “influence”?
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: February 03 2006 at 02:27
Hopefully Bonzo's got him already! ------------- "We've got to get in to get out" |
Posted By: YES2112
Date Posted: February 05 2006 at 01:17
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I think In The Light, Kashmir, and Achilles Last Stand sound Prog, not just because there long. ------------- And the Meek Shall Inherit the Earth.... [IMG]http://www.musicstreetjournal.com/GRAPHICS/2112.jpg "> |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:53
| Double-feeding, but LZ was more influenced by prog, than prog by them IMHO. |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:55
| Led Zep has been slightly inspired by the prog mood of the time, but not the reverse, IMO. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 07:57
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Posted By: Space Dimentia
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:32
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I think they did especially with some of tehir more fantasy based songs. Yet I still say the founders of prog/psycediallia are the Beatles during the Sgt Pepper-Magical mystery tour era ------------- Prog is music for the mind Hear your Orphaned child! Check out my bands myspace site: www.myspace.com/equinox17 |
Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:49
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No, the sound of Led Zeppelin has nothing to do with jazz fusion or Classical. Progressive bands ifluenced from Europian Classical Composers. ------------- 
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Posted By: Figglesnout
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 17:09
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can i point out that The Mars Volta, though a "modern" prog band, can be seen to have huge Zeppelin influences. A lot of people cite The Mras Volta as the new Zeppelin, though I know fans of Zeppelin that aren't fans of TMV (the progtologist...) will disagree. just a point. ------------- I'm a reasonable man, get off my case |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 09 2006 at 17:16
Cream was among the first to begin the long psycadellic jams (before Zep.) Is Cream prog? Or how about the Grateful Dead? I'm sarcastically speaking, while long jams are great altercations of studio tracks it doesn't mean a band is prog. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |