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Poll Question: which one of these bands do you like best ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 09:23
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Why aren't these bands Prog? Please state your reason, person with a weird name.
Theres something in each of their sounds that falls into more the alternative rock genre than Progressive rock genre in my opinion ... I grew up listening to the old Prog titans and I am looking for the same synergy, combined talent, focus,  raw energy, serenity & fusion and above all else well written songs  the older prog bands could provide (before samples and computers played such a big  part) I don`t feel I have to justify myself to you .. but believe me I know my $hit .  

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Absolutely Porcupine tree!!!I think their In absentia is one of the most exciting album of the last 10 years!!!I don't like too much Tool and Radiohead.......and I hate Tha mars volta
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Points: 387 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 11:44
Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Why aren't these bands Prog? Please state your reason, person with a weird name.
Theres something in each of their sounds that falls into more the alternative rock genre than Progressive rock genre in my opinion ... I grew up listening to the old Prog titans and I am looking for the same synergy, combined talent, focus,  raw energy, serenity & fusion and above all else well written songs  the older prog bands could provide (before samples and computers played such a big  part) I don`t feel I have to justify myself to you .. but believe me I know my $hit .  


Ok, then, but can you please explain why you desperately need to have a completely different definition of 'progressive' than the rest of the world ?
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I find the Mars Volta pretty progressive...Radiohead not that much...neither Tool. Still my vote goes for radiohead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 21:27
Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Why aren't these bands Prog? Please state your reason, person with a weird name.
Theres something in each of their sounds that falls into more the alternative rock genre than Progressive rock genre in my opinion ... I grew up listening to the old Prog titans and I am looking for the same synergy, combined talent, focus,  raw energy, serenity & fusion and above all else well written songs  the older prog bands could provide (before samples and computers played such a big  part) I don`t feel I have to justify myself to you .. but believe me I know my $hit .  


Ok, then, but can you please explain why you desperately need to have a completely different definition of 'progressive' than the rest of the world ?
so you feel you can talk for the rest of the world do you ? ..
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 21:53

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Why aren't these bands Prog? Please state your reason, person with a weird name.
Theres something in each of their sounds that falls into more the alternative rock genre than Progressive rock genre in my opinion ... I grew up listening to the old Prog titans and I am looking for the same synergy, combined talent, focus,  raw energy, serenity & fusion and above all else well written songs  the older prog bands could provide (before samples and computers played such a big  part) I don`t feel I have to justify myself to you .. but believe me I know my $hit .  

I believe those four bands match your description: synergy, combined talent, focus, etc. Maybe they don't sound like the older bands, but that is a good thing. They are all doing something creative and unique.

Prog isn't a sound either (regarding your first sentence); prog is more a state of being. Example: Tool may have a sound that fits comfortably into the modern alt-rock/metal scene, but they are clearly at a higher level of skill, composition, songwriting, etc., and there is no doubt that they are careful and focused. After all, they take four or five years to put out one record, because they make it perfect, to the slightest details.

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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

All of those bands are undoubtedly prog.

yeah i'm sure they are all prog in their own rights...explain yourself? anyways i voted for the mars volta before i saw the opener-comment...i shouldn't have voted, for none of these bands are "pseudo-prog"...but hey...
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Porcupine Tree- easy choice from that list



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To me it's clear: Mars Volta and Porcupine Tree are two really good and innovative prog bands.  Radiohead is also very good and original, but their songs nerver go over 6 minutes.  They don't give them the chance to explore enough, in my opinion.  And I really don't like Tool, and I don't even consider them prog.  I think they sound more like hard-rock alternative...
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.....All Those bands are quite progressive in my opinion
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Originally posted by urris urris wrote:

hate radiohead

 

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why?? 

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The Tree for me!!!!
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Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by erlenst erlenst wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Why aren't these bands Prog? Please state your reason, person with a weird name.
Theres something in each of their sounds that falls into more the alternative rock genre than Progressive rock genre in my opinion ... I grew up listening to the old Prog titans and I am looking for the same synergy, combined talent, focus,  raw energy, serenity & fusion and above all else well written songs  the older prog bands could provide (before samples and computers played such a big  part) I don`t feel I have to justify myself to you .. but believe me I know my $hit .  


Ok, then, but can you please explain why you desperately need to have a completely different definition of 'progressive' than the rest of the world ?
so you feel you can talk for the rest of the world do you ? ..

"Alternative" is just another name for "prog", in my opinion.


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No bands are progressive.
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The only one of those four I'm not so keen on is Radiohead (although Amnesiac and Kid A are pretty good) and I'd describe all of them as progressive.

TMV are my curent favourites off that list.
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Radiohead is pseudo-experimental brit-pop band,IMHO.They've done almost everything that Floyd did back in 1967(just using all that modern stuff & sound).TOOL is AWESOME PROG!!! Look at the way they're doing their misuc,you'll understand...I saw some reviews on Lateralus where the Magic Structure of the album had been described...quite prog trick
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^mmm, still, even with all this "behind the scenes" talk about Tool, they still sound like an Alt/Metal type band to me. There's nothing wrong with that and I quite like them but they have never sounded as unquie to me as they do to some others.
I also quite like TMV & Porcupine Tree but...
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They prog.... they aren't .....what's the point? I'm borred about that kind discussions.
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You are 39 years old you and you still behave like a child.


Such unsubtle comments are uncalled for, the guy has his opinions about these things. You don't have to agree, but instead of being bloody rude, you could  indicate the error of his ways and provide some explanation.
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What is "prog?" Confused

Of those, I really enjoy "Lightbulb Sun," so PT (though I find most of their stuff too depressing/boring).

I find Tool and TMV very irritating/painful, and Radiohead haven't really grabbed me yet.
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