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Politician
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:29 |
ELP. A lot of punks would be able to relate to harder-edged stuff like
AMON DÜÜL II or HAWKWIND, or even something like CATAPILLA (since
Anna Meek's vocals so closely resemble Johnny Rotten's in parts!), but I
can't see them ever liking ELP.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:31 |
ELP? That's what I voted. But you know... I remembered that the Sex Pistols' lead singer Johnny Rotten actually owned a T-shirt with the text: "I HATE PINK FLOYD!"
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chopper
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:31 |
Syzygy wrote:
Johnny Rotten was a big fan of VDGG/Hammill, The Damned
were major Soft Machine enthusiasts and Jello Biafra is into Magma. Syd
Barrett's Pink Floyd were also popular with the early UK punks, and
Daevid Allen's Floating Anarchy tour attracted a bizarre punk/hippy
audience, plus Steve Hillage jammed onstage with Sham 69 and formed a
lasting friendship with Jimmy Pursey. |
The Damned were into Soft Machine!!?? blimey
I voted for ELP, because they were seen as the most pretentious.
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:33 |
Oh yeah as for who I voted for definitely was ELP, and I remember the music media also cite songs like Bohemian Rhapsody amongst the biggest offenders...
Charles
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:39 |
Yes, Queen was also a target. I read in a Dutch music magazine that Johnny Rotten once met Freddy Mercury, and that Johnny said: "Well, Fred, you've really introduced ballet to the masses, haven't you?" and that Freddy said indifferently: "We try, mr. Wild Man, we try"
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:45 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Yes, Queen was also a target. I read in a Dutch music magazine that Johnny Rotten once met Freddy Mercury, and that Johnny said: "Well, Fred, you've really introduced ballet to the masses, haven't you?" and that Freddy said indifferently: "We do our best, mr. Wild Man, we do our best"
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I also read that Mercury got on quite well with Sid Vicious (The Pistols and Queen were recording in adjacent studios - the mind fairly boggles) and would greet him with a camply drawled 'Good morning, Mr Ferocious, and how are you today?'
Even more bizarre was Ian Anderson getting asked for an autograph by Johnny Ramone. Anderson checked out the Ramone's show and greatly admired the way they got straight to the point.
Captain Sensible talked about his admiration for Soft Machine in the Q/Mojo prog special.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:46 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Yes, Queen was also a target. I read in a
Dutch music magazine that Johnny Rotten once met Freddy Mercury, and
that Johnny said: "Well, Fred, you've really introduced ballet to the
masses, haven't you?" and that Freddy said indifferently: "We try, mr.
Wild Man, we try"
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Man, I miss Freddy.
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Hemispheres
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Joined: December 22 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:48 |
Moogtron III wrote:
ELP? That's what I voted. But you know... I remembered that the Sex Pistols' lead singer Johnny Rotten actually owned a T-shirt with the text: "I HATE PINK FLOYD!"
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Are u sure it was actually rotten because i just watched the movie the filth and the fury and i saw Paul Cook the drummer wearing that shirt
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:51 |
I voted Pink Floyd but could be any or all.
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goose
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:04 |
FragileDT wrote:
I chose Tull. Folk is definitely not cool in the punk world. |
I think The Pogues, Flogging Molly and a fair few other groups might disagree with you there.
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:04 |
Are u sure it was actually rotten because i just watched the movie the filth and the fury and i saw Paul Cook the drummer wearing that shirt
Speaking of Paul Cook, the numbskulls at All Music Guide still think that Paul Cook formerly of IQ was the same drummer from the Sex Pistols......
Charles
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G'day
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The Wizard
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Joined: July 18 2005
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:06 |
if you look at it maybe the punks didn't hate prog as much after all. Maybe they wanted to do something different. Ever think of that? The punks were just as revolutionary as the proggers, even though prog is still the superior music .
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:07 |
Although Tears For Fears is more on New Wave side, the song "I Believe" was dedicated to Robert Wyatt... And both also list Peter Hammill as seminal influences... As do Martin Gore of Deche Mode...
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NutterAlert
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Joined: June 07 2005
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:20 |
I recall ELP got the biggest bashing at the time. Didn't UK Subs come
up with 'Bus fare for the common man' as their response to 'fanfare....'
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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:21 |
Syzygy wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Yes, Queen was also a target. I read in a Dutch music magazine that Johnny Rotten once met Freddy Mercury, and that Johnny said: "Well, Fred, you've really introduced ballet to the masses, haven't you?" and that Freddy said indifferently: "We do our best, mr. Wild Man, we do our best"
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I also read that Mercury got on quite well with Sid Vicious (The Pistols and Queen were recording in adjacent studios - the mind fairly boggles) and would greet him with a camply drawled 'Good morning, Mr Ferocious, and how are you today?'
Even more bizarre was Ian Anderson getting asked for an autograph by Johnny Ramone. Anderson checked out the Ramone's show and greatly admired the way they got straight to the point.
Captain Sensible talked about his admiration for Soft Machine in the Q/Mojo prog special.
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A couple of months ago (New York) on PBS was a documentary on the Ramones. Johnny Ramone said that he liked ELP and they showed a one minute clip of vintage ELP. He decided that he could never be a musician of their caliber.
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Empathy
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:05 |
goose wrote:
FragileDT wrote:
I chose Tull. Folk is definitely not cool in the punk world. |
I think The Pogues, Flogging Molly and a fair few other groups might disagree with you there. |
Damn good point.
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Gentle Tull
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:16 |
I chose Pink Floyd.
Punks need everything quick and simple. Pink floyd was very slow.
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zabriskiepoint
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:23 |
Peter Hamill invented punk in one of his solo albums, the one which has the cover of his face, split in two.
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Hemispheres
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:35 |
Gentle Tull wrote:
I chose Pink Floyd.
Punks need everything quick and simple. Pink floyd was very slow.
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But Pink Floyd Were one of the less Complex Prog Bands still complex though
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Charles
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Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:39 |
zabriskiepoint wrote:
Peter Hamill invented punk in one of his solo albums, the one which has the cover of his face, split in two. |
Be very careful when mentioning that....
The Who in the Mid Sixties, MC5, Roxy Music, The New York Dolls, Iggy Pop all predate Peter Hammill...
Charles
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