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Cygnus
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 07:50 |
Peart is my fav drummer so anything from him would be on my list especialy O Baterista which is the best performance ever heard.
Also one of myfavorites is Mark zONDER from fates warning with his unique style...
Just listen the Pleasent Shade of Gray album.
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ColonelClaypool
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Joined: October 22 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:39 |
Prog drummers I'd say Neil Peart and Chris Maitland from PT.
Metal drummers includes Danny Carey, Cato Bekkevold (Enslaved) and Ed Warby(Ayreon). Gene Hoglan does some amazing work on "Terria" by Devin Townsend as well.
One of, if not the best, metal drummers is Hellhammer (Or Jan Axel Blomberg, as his name is) from Mayhem, Arcturus and several other bands.
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With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince.
With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with.
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Genesisprog
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Joined: October 14 2005
Location: Estonia
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:51 |
My favorite drummers are Neil Peart,Phil Collins,Bill Bruford,Carl Palmer,Nick Mason
The best ever
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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Xymphony
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Joined: November 03 2005
Location: Turkey
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 08:57 |
Terry Bozzio is freak. He is awesome
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Genesisprog
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:15 |
Terry Bozzio is freak. He is awesome
He is freak and - he is awsome Man youre funny !!
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Frank Zappa,Pink Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Rush,King Crimson,Jethro Tull,E.L.P,Rick Wakeman -They have one similarity- I Love Them all !
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Garbs
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Joined: October 22 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:35 |
3 drumming performances spring to mind instantly :-
Bill Bruford - excellent work with King Crimson - especially on Discipline.
Phil Collins - check out Three Sides Live (albeit with Chester Thompson) - In The Cage is awesome
Neil Peart - basically all this guy's drumming is phenomenal
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So here I am once more
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bartok
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Joined: May 27 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:40 |
Pierre Moerlen (Gong) - "Master Builder"
Jaki Liebezeit (Can) - "Bel Air"
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Raff
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:42 |
As prog drummers, Bruford and Peart - but let's not forget Ian Paice!
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Zawinul
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Joined: November 08 2005
Location: Georgia
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:49 |
bill bruford and carl palmer are the best in art rock
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 09:50 |
Manunkind wrote:
Jeremy Bender wrote:
antibiotic wrote:
Jeremy Bender wrote:
Nicholas Barker: Blessings Upon The Throne Of Tyranny, Kings Of The Carnival Creation, IHybrid Stigmata / The Apostasy IndoctriNation, Progenies Of The Great Apocalypse, Allehelgens Død I Helveds Rike, Cataclysm Children
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How can you possibly consider a fully triggered kit and later touched up on computer a good performance? If this is what you consider a good drum performance, then I am easily as good as Barker. I don't even play drums, but I could make a recording that sounds as good as he does given the same recording eithic. You probably like Opeth too?
(He is a good drummer, I agree, but his recorded work can't really be rated as a performance. All of what you are hearing is quantized and artificially made to sound as clean and precise as it is.)
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Yes, you're right. Thanks for remembering me....
I saw a DVD from Dimmu and he played as fast and precise as on the cd recordings. But hey, maybe it wasn't Nicholas who played but a robot....
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Precisely. If it can be reproduced accurately enough live, then it is a good performance. Antibiotic, you might as well have complained about the vast majority of the songs on your CDs not being first and only takes.
Following up on that - Blackword, I wasn't trying to question Peart's skill. He obviously has plenty of it if he can reproduce those parts nearly perfectly live. But does that also mean that he (and Lee and Lifeson with him) don't do any live jamming at all?
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No not really. I've heard them mess about a bit, but by and large they just play the songs. A lot of their songs started off as studio jams but once laid down in studio they're pretty much set in stone.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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tardis
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 10:11 |
I'd have to go with Mike Portnoy --- I especially like his work with Neal Morse.
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Persona
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Joined: October 17 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 14:09 |
Kirk Covington (Tribal Tech) is greaat!!
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Le pregunte,
y su sonrisa se desprendio
desgarrando al aire.
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chopper
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Joined: July 13 2005
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 14:12 |
Blacksword wrote:
Manunkind wrote:
Jeremy Bender wrote:
antibiotic wrote:
Jeremy Bender wrote:
Nicholas Barker: Blessings Upon The Throne Of
Tyranny, Kings Of The Carnival Creation, IHybrid Stigmata / The
Apostasy IndoctriNation, Progenies Of The Great Apocalypse, Allehelgens
Død I Helveds Rike, Cataclysm Children
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How can you possibly consider a fully triggered kit and later
touched up on computer a good performance? If this is what you consider
a good drum performance, then I am easily as good as Barker. I
don't even play drums, but I could make a recording that sounds as good
as he does given the same recording eithic. You probably like Opeth
too?
(He is a good drummer, I agree, but his recorded work can't really
be rated as a performance. All of what you are hearing is quantized and
artificially made to sound as clean and precise as it is.)
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Yes, you're right. Thanks for remembering me....
I saw a DVD from Dimmu and he played as fast and precise as on the
cd recordings. But hey, maybe it wasn't Nicholas who
played but a robot....
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Precisely. If it can be reproduced accurately enough live, then it
is a good performance. Antibiotic, you might as well
have complained about the vast majority of the songs on
your CDs not being first and only takes.
Following up on that - Blackword, I wasn't trying to question
Peart's skill. He obviously has plenty of it if he can reproduce those
parts nearly perfectly live. But does that also mean that he (and Lee
and Lifeson with him) don't do any live jamming at all?
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No not really. I've heard them mess about a bit, but by and large
they just play the songs. A lot of their songs started off as studio
jams but once laid down in studio they're pretty much set in stone. |
That's a shame about Rush. They do tend to replicate the studio
versions and Peart particularly plays the same drum fills. When they do
jam a bit (such as on Closer To The Heart - one of the live versions
has a great "funky" bit on the end) they're really good. They should do
it more.
Oh, and my favourite drum performance is probably Heart of the sunrise.
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zabriskiepoint
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Joined: October 20 2005
Location: Argentina
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:17 |
Dazed and Confused, Stairway to heaven, Bonzo.
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chopper
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:19 |
zabriskiepoint wrote:
Dazed and Confused, Stairway to heaven, Bonzo. |
Mr Bonham - good call, my favourite (non-prog) performances would be In my time of dying and When the levee breaks.
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Zac M
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:24 |
Let's see performances by the late, great Pierre Moerlen, John
Marshall, Robert Wyatt, Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, and Pip Pyle are
all noteworthy . I am sure there are tons more, but those are the only ones I can think of right now.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
-Merleau-Ponty
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BleedingGum
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Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Canada
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 15:27 |
Collins... Bruford......and.. Bonzo Bonham.... guys.. don't forget: GINGER BAKER !!
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 17:17 |
Carl Palmer - Toccata (ELP)
Alan White - Ann Of Cleves (Rick Wakeman)
Bill Ward - Never Say Die (Sabbath)
Keith Moon - Baba O'Riley (The Who)
Paul Cook - Widows Peak (IQ)
Bill Bruford - Red (Crimson)
Jon Hiseman - Valentyne Suite (Colosseum)
Neil Peart - Tom Sawyer (Rush)
Terry Bozzio - Carrying No Cross (UK)
John Bonham - Achilles Last Stand (Led Zep)
Cozy Powell - Stargazer (Rainbow)
Ian Paice - Burn (Purple)
Phil Collins - Dukes Travels/End (Genesis)
Chester Thompson and Phil Collins - Los Endos (Live) (Genesis)
Danny Carey - Schism (Tool)
Vangelis - To The Unknown Man
Brian Davison - Rondo (The Nice)
Corky Laing - Nantucket Seighride (Mountain)
Phil Taylor - Overkill (Motorhead)
...wot no Mike Portnoy?
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drumsandbass
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Joined: April 27 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 17:32 |
Bruford (close to the edge, heart of the sunrise)
Palmer (Tank, Toccata)
Paice (Fireball, some others...)
Cobham (just about anything off of inner mounting flame!)
Bozzio (not sure of any songs but saw an incredible video of him on
drummerworld.com)
Portnoy ()verture 1928 and Dance Of Eternity)
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Tony R
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Posted: November 08 2005 at 17:34 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Prog drummers I'd say Neil Peart and Chris Maitland from PT.
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Chris Maitland was a good drummer but surely you are referring to Gavin Harrison...
http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Gavin_Harrison.html
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