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floydaholic
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:49 |
Ooooh! Dimeola is a goodun'! Friday Nights in San Fransisco owns my soul.
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:07 |
I voted for satch. I got to see him!
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BleedingGum
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:17 |
Okay... I vote for Romeo..
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...this is called....BleedingGum ... !
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:38 |
do you really consider jazz guitarists like Mclaughlin, Di Meola and Eric Jonson shredders?
The only REAL shred guitarists on there are Malmsteen, Vai, Satch,
Buckethead and Petrucci (well, those are the ones I know anyway).
but the point is, a HUGE distinction needs to be made between jazz and shred. totally different styles of playing.
but, hell, dont listen to me, Im just a bass player.
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stonebeard
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Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:45 |
Since Yngwie invented "shred" or at least popularized it, my vote goes to him.
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:02 |
floydaholic wrote:
Erik wrote:
floydaholic wrote:
Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated. | Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...
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Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about. |
Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person making the poll ! (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is no Alex Lifeson from Rush ?... shame on you !
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JayDee
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:21 |
my choices were:
Yngwie
Petrucci
gilbert
romeo
angelo-batio
and satch
my vote went to:
petrucci
im biased
im a huge DT fan!
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Pafnutij
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:40 |
GoldenSpiral wrote:
do you really consider jazz guitarists like Mclaughlin, Di Meola and Eric Jonson shredders?
The only REAL shred guitarists on there are Malmsteen, Vai, Satch, Buckethead and Petrucci (well, those are the ones I know anyway). but the point is, a HUGE distinction needs to be made between jazz and shred. totally different styles of playing.
but, hell, dont listen to me, Im just a bass player.
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Yes, it's a shame that shred has become a genre itself (although technical ability has always been respected and demonstrated with cadenzas and stuff). But if you look at the term as refering strictly to someone who plays fast, the jazz/fusion guys would fit right in. And since most of the players metioned have developed their skill to ridiculous speed, they're all roughly equal in that aspect of playing, so its logical to pick a guitarist whose playing appeals more rather than who's fastest.
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Syndromet
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:34 |
Brent Allman and Michael Romeo are extremly good guitarists, as all the
others on that list. I still think they have a lack of personality and
originality.
I would not say shread has become a genre of its own as the
styles of the shread-guitarist wary a lot from each guitaist. You can
listen to Marty Friedmans hawaian style, Vais weird noises or
Malmsteens noeclassical bach copys, and the genre of music is very
difrent. I tend to like the bluesier parts of it, like Paul Gilbert and
Jimy Kids record. As for the jazzers, I haven't decided if I would call
them shreaders.
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It is said to be the first Test-pressing of the corean release??
http://www.freewebs.com/ligyrophobia/
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Trotsky
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:33 |
Blackmore is my favourite guitarist on the poll, and he is no shredder ...
I hate shredders ... if you asked me which shredder was the most
annoying I'd have to say Malmsteen followed closely by Petrucci ...
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"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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R_DeNIRO
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45 |
Petru, of course !!
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We were always be much human than we whish to be.
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Single Coil
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45 |
I voted for Petrucci, since Al DiMeola wasn't on the list. I think of him as the godfather of shred. He can tear up an acoustic guitar better than anyone, in my opinion.
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If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud!
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:01 |
I prefer the term Instrumental Guitar Virtuoso to "shredders". Only
about half of the guitarists on the list actually "shred" and most of
those only ocassionally. Satriani and Vai have displayed some excellent
melodic guitar playing (Satch: Cryin', Starry Night, Until We Say
Goodbye. Vai: For the Love of God, TEnder Surrender, Windows to the
Soul) as has Buckethead on his albums Colma, Electric Tears and
Population Override. Using the term "shredding" with regards to these
players really does them no favours, as it immediately causes people
unfamiliar with their work to think of tasteless guitar w**kers like
Michael Angelo Batio. As a result right them off, when in fact they
have much more to offer than fast licks (I myself can play Joe
Satriani's Cryin', which goes to show that some of their material is
actually not very technical )
BTW, Blackmore did do some shredding and was infact a pioneer of
Neo-Classical electric guitar. Listen to tracks like Catch the Rainbow
from the album Rainbow: Live in Germany and you'll hear some great
examples of Blackmore more technical side.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:56 |
I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist. I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci. Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar. He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads. Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him. This is a guy who never hits a wrong note. I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well. Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed. His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song. He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do. Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing. Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:16 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist. I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci. Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar. He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads. Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him. This is a guy who never hits a wrong note. I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well. Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed. His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song. He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do. Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing. Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points.
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Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!
And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad
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Wolf Spider
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:21 |
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:39 |
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist. I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci. Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar. He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads. Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him. This is a guy who never hits a wrong note. I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well. Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed. His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song. He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do. Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing. Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points.
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Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!
And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad
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I just figured Wehrkamp does most of the solos because he is the composer, but you're the Shadow Gallery expert here. I never said Romeo was bad, i was just stating the aspects of guitar that i see Petrucci is far superior to him.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:47 |
AtLossForWords wrote:
Ed_The_Dead wrote:
AtLossForWords wrote:
I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist. I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci. Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar. He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads. Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him. This is a guy who never hits a wrong note. I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well. Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed. His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song. He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do. Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing. Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points.
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Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!
And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad
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I just figured Wehrkamp does most of the solos because he is the composer, but you're the Shadow Gallery expert here. I never said Romeo was bad, i was just stating the aspects of guitar that i see Petrucci is far superior to him.
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Gary coposes a lot of the guitar parts, but he makes Brendt play most of them
I never accused You of saing Romeo is bad, in fact i like Petrucci more! Just thought that it was a bit unfair You think his solos are worse cuz they are unclear.... well... wait... I have that same feeling 2!!!
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Empathy
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:50 |
Vai!!!!!!
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:53 |
i cant belivie that Malmsteen got so many votes? There are many before him that played faster and more precise + he tends to get very boring + all his tricks is ripped of from Ritchie blackmoore...he has even built up his gutiar the same way as blackmoore
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