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Poll Question: Who is the best shredder?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 20:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:07
I voted for satch. I got to see him!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 21:17
Okay... I vote for Romeo..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:38
do you really consider jazz guitarists like Mclaughlin, Di Meola and Eric Jonson shredders?

The only REAL shred guitarists on there are Malmsteen, Vai, Satch, Buckethead and Petrucci (well, those are the ones I know anyway).
but the point is, a HUGE distinction needs to be made between jazz and shred.  totally different styles of playing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 31 2005 at 23:45
Since Yngwie invented "shred" or at least popularized it, my vote goes to him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:02
Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated.
Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...

Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about.

Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m  starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person  making the poll !  (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is   no  Alex Lifeson  from  Rush ?...  shame on you !

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:21

my choices were:

Yngwie

Petrucci

gilbert

romeo

angelo-batio

and satch

my vote went to:

petrucci

im biased

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:40

Originally posted by GoldenSpiral GoldenSpiral wrote:

do you really consider jazz guitarists like Mclaughlin, Di Meola and Eric Jonson shredders?

The only REAL shred guitarists on there are Malmsteen, Vai, Satch, Buckethead and Petrucci (well, those are the ones I know anyway).
but the point is, a HUGE distinction needs to be made between jazz and shred.  totally different styles of playing.

but, hell, dont listen to me, Im just a bass player.

Yes, it's a shame that shred has become a genre itself (although technical ability has always been respected and demonstrated with cadenzas and stuff). But if you look at the term as refering strictly to someone who plays fast, the jazz/fusion guys would fit right in. And since most of the players metioned have developed their skill to ridiculous speed, they're all roughly equal in that aspect of playing, so its logical to pick a guitarist whose playing appeals more rather than who's fastest.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:34
Brent Allman and Michael Romeo are extremly good guitarists, as all the others on that list. I still think they have a lack of personality and originality.
 I would not say shread has become a genre of its own as the styles of the shread-guitarist wary a lot from each guitaist. You can listen to Marty Friedmans hawaian style, Vais weird noises or Malmsteens noeclassical bach copys, and the genre of music is very difrent. I tend to like the bluesier parts of it, like Paul Gilbert and Jimy Kids record. As for the jazzers, I haven't decided if I would call them shreaders.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:33
Blackmore is my favourite guitarist on the poll, and he is no shredder ...

I hate shredders ... if you asked me which shredder was the most annoying I'd have to say Malmsteen followed closely by Petrucci ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45
Petru, of course !!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:45
I voted for Petrucci, since Al DiMeola wasn't on the list. I think of him as the godfather of shred. He can tear up an acoustic guitar better than anyone, in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 13:01
I prefer the term Instrumental Guitar Virtuoso to "shredders". Only about half of the guitarists on the list actually "shred" and most of those only ocassionally. Satriani and Vai have displayed some excellent melodic guitar playing (Satch: Cryin', Starry Night, Until We Say Goodbye. Vai: For the Love of God, TEnder Surrender, Windows to the Soul) as has Buckethead on his albums Colma, Electric Tears and Population Override. Using the term "shredding" with regards to these players really does them no favours, as it immediately causes people unfamiliar with their work to think of tasteless guitar w**kers like Michael Angelo Batio. As a result right them off, when in fact they have much more to offer than fast licks (I myself can play Joe Satriani's Cryin', which goes to show that some of their material is actually not very technical )

BTW, Blackmore did do some shredding and was infact a pioneer of Neo-Classical electric guitar. Listen to tracks like Catch the Rainbow from the album Rainbow: Live in Germany and you'll hear some great examples of Blackmore more technical side.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:56
Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated.
Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...

Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about.

Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m  starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person  making the poll !  (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is   no  Alex Lifeson  from  Rush ?...  shame on you !

I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist.  I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci.  Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar.  He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads.  Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him.  This is a guy who never hits a wrong note.  I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well.  Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed.  His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song.  He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do.  Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing.  Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:16
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated.
Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...

Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about.

Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m  starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person  making the poll !  (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is   no  Alex Lifeson  from  Rush ?...  shame on you !

I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist.  I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci.  Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar.  He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads.  Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him.  This is a guy who never hits a wrong note.  I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well.  Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed.  His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song.  He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do.  Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing.  Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points. 

Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!

And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:39
Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated.
Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...

Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about.

Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m  starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person  making the poll !  (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is   no  Alex Lifeson  from  Rush ?...  shame on you !

I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist.  I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci.  Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar.  He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads.  Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him.  This is a guy who never hits a wrong note.  I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well.  Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed.  His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song.  He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do.  Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing.  Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points. 

Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!

And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad

I just figured Wehrkamp does most of the solos because he is the composer, but you're the Shadow Gallery expert here.  I never said Romeo was bad, i was just stating the aspects of guitar that i see Petrucci is far superior to him.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:47
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by Ed_The_Dead Ed_The_Dead wrote:

Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

Originally posted by s1ipp3ry s1ipp3ry wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Erik Erik wrote:

Originally posted by floydaholic floydaholic wrote:

Those of you voting otherwise are uneducated.
Sadly this attitude is quite common on these boards...

Perhaps, but it is still the truth. He is a better shredder than the ones mentioned. I wouldn't say it with such confidence if I wasn't absolutely sure of it. Buckethead himself regards him as the best guitarist ever to have lived, and Buckethead knows what he's talking about.

Romeo from symphony X blows them all away ... so does Brent Allman from Shadow Gallery .. I`m  starting to believe that people who start up these polls know very little about prog metal ... Normaly the better performers are overlooked or could it be just not known by the person  making the poll !  (but without doubt known very well by the true prog metal community) just to point out how OUT this poll is   no  Alex Lifeson  from  Rush ?...  shame on you !

I've always considered Gary Wehrkamp to be the better Shadow Gallery guitarist.  I don't think Romeo can surpass Petrucci.  Petruccis entire style is built around shread guitar.  He's much clearer/cleaner than any other gutiarist when he shreads.  Petrucci also matches his solos perfectly with the chords harmonizing him.  This is a guy who never hits a wrong note.  I consider vibrato to be a large part of shread guitar as well.  Petrucci's vibrato is also rarely surpassed.  His vibrato is timed perfectly with the beat of the song.  He also pulls off some spectacular bends considering he isn't using a floating tremolo like most other shread guitarists do.  Romeo lacks the clarity and arcticulation Petrucci has in his playing.  Romeo has some incredible solos like Smoke and Mirrors, Sea of Lies, and the Divine Wings of Tragedy, but they lack clarity in some points. 

Allman does most of the Job is SG, since Gary does quite a lot of other stuff, like bass playing when Carl plays flute, or paying keys when Chris is not around... They are both awesome though... And they do have a distinctive sound!!! I'd never mistake their energetic upbeat & melodic solo with anyone else!!!

And Mike Romeo is awesome... Not that awesome as Petrucci, but still hell of a player. Quite distinctive riff & solo sound 2!!!! And its a mater of taste when You talk bout clarity is solos being bad

I just figured Wehrkamp does most of the solos because he is the composer, but you're the Shadow Gallery expert here.  I never said Romeo was bad, i was just stating the aspects of guitar that i see Petrucci is far superior to him.

Gary coposes a lot of the guitar parts, but he makes Brendt play most of them

I never accused You of saing Romeo is bad, in fact i like Petrucci more! Just thought that it was a bit unfair You think his solos are worse cuz they are unclear.... well... wait... I have that same feeling 2!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 16:53
i cant belivie that Malmsteen got so many votes? There are many before him that played faster and more precise + he tends to get very boring + all his tricks is ripped of from Ritchie blackmoore...he has even built up his gutiar the same way as blackmoore
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