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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Good topic.

Something of a cult film from Canada, and maybe not little known enough, a few here might know it, but I'll start with a Canadian film: Tales form Gimli Hospital (Guy Maddin, 1988), which is a strange film shot in black and white.

Again, not the most obscure of films, but one that certainly doesn't get the recognition that I think it deserves (even when I mention it here, which has been a lot, and we have Norwegian posters):

Den brysomme mannen (The Bothersome Man) is a surrealistic black comedy Norwegian film from 2006. It's one of my very favourite modern films (not surprisingly since I'm mentioning it again), and it has had significant international distribution and been to film festivals.

And below is a short dark comedy film -- at 21 minutes not that short -- that I think terrific and deserves more attention (short films don't get enough attention period as far as I"m concerned -- I love that medium). It did get international success at short film festivals, but it's still very little known (partially because shorts don't get enough exposure) and it is strange -- very absurd and dark. It's beautifully shot and deliciously absurd.

Mompelaar (Mulbler) - a short Belgian, I think, film by Marc James Roels and Wim Reygaert’s. Those who think they might enjoy a very dark version of Monty Python might well enjoy this:



https://vimeo.com/69876745

a very weird one, but we liked it a lot. why did the guy who looked like Michael Palin from Monty Python have a tail?


Glad you both liked it. It could be absurdity for absurdity sake, but I think it's partially religious symbolism. The tail can symbolise lust, sin, and more generally is a symbol of bestiality. They want to portray him in an animalistic sense. His death fits that, I think.
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Maybe it's hard to call a Luis Buñuel film really obscure, but The Milky Way (La Voie Lactee) 1969 deserved more recognition (not everyone enjoys surrealism).

And various Peter Greenaway films, though not really an obscure director (still, not known to most who favour blockbusters).

Not really obscure, but some modern films that I wish were better known are those of Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster, and the Killing of a Sacred Deer are modern favourites of mine.

EDIT: And another one that just came to me is Pier Paolo Pasolini's Porcile. Not an obscure director, but I doubt that a great many who visit this forum have seen this (actually, I bet a few regulars have).

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Alain Resnais - Providence (1977) is probably my favorite movie of all time and completely overlooked. Funny, surreal and smart... and everything.

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

we will practice our rusty French and give it a try

It's French slang from Québec, so it should be quite hard to understand to French speakers outside Canada, I assume. Still, while far from an enjoyable one (should I rewatch it and be traumatised for another 20 years?), yeah definitely worth watching imo.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Alain Resnais - Providence (1977) is probably my favorite movie of all time and completely overlooked. Funny, surreal and smart... and everything.


also this masterpiece - both visually and sonically (thanks to genius composer/progger Takaaki Terahara aka J.A. Caesar)

+ a wondrous chamber piece-beauty

& out of this world stunning symbolist art from Armenia


...and of course Armenia has the most beautiful music on the planet by default so there''s that as well to look forward to.
 



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This may be considered a classic in India for all I know - but lo and behold I've never seen such technicolor beauty or heard such enchanting songs... or dances. Give it couple of minutes won't you







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^ That is attractive.

^^ The Colour of Pomegranates is so poetic -- we covered it in a film studies class. Sight and Sound, a magazine I used to read religiously (wait, wrong topic to say that) voted it 84th all-time best film. It played films festivals a few years back after Scorsese restored it (he has done such a lot for film) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/07/the-colour-of-pomegranates-sergei-parajanov-london-film-festival-2014
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ That is attractive.

^^ The Colour of Pomegranates is so poetic -- we covered it in a film studies class. Sight and Sound, a magazine I used to read religiously (wait, wrong topic to say that) voted it 84th all-time best film. It played films festivals a few years back after Scorsese restored it (he has done such a lot for film) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/07/the-colour-of-pomegranates-sergei-parajanov-london-film-festival-2014
So it seems its gotten its fair share of attention without me knowing it. Nice to know. 

Wish I could post that Providence-movie as well. But its practically impossible to locate. Seems MUBI is the only place (Although its Resnais it never even got a DVD-release). But I can't recommend it enough. 
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Providence can be found here:



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I'll have to watch that at some time when my brain is ready to take on a new-to-me film (I don't watch them nearly as much as I used to as I don't have the same attention span, or brain altogether, as I used to).

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ That is attractive.

^^ The Colour of Pomegranates is so poetic -- we covered it in a film studies class. Sight and Sound, a magazine I used to read religiously (wait, wrong topic to say that) voted it 84th all-time best film. It played films festivals a few years back after Scorsese restored it (he has done such a lot for film) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/07/the-colour-of-pomegranates-sergei-parajanov-london-film-festival-2014
So it seems its gotten its fair share of attention without me knowing it. Nice to know. 

Wish I could post that Providence-movie as well. But its practically impossible to locate. Seems MUBI is the only place (Although its Resnais it never even got a DVD-release). But I can't recommend it enough. 


Lovely that it got a revival in interest, though I think its long been one of those films that was studied and recognised in more academic circles (an arcane/ esoteric film for the majority still, I'm sure). It's the only film you've mentioned that I have seen, and I have considered myself to be a big admirer of Alain Resnais. I love his fairly well-known one feature films such as Hiroshima Mon Amour (my mother's favourite film), Last Year at Marienbad, My American Uncle and Mélo (I haven't seen most of his films). And I love J.A. Caesar's music, so there's another in your list that I really feel that I should see.

I expect that all of those mentioned in this topic are worth seeing.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Providence can be found here:
Hehe yes thanks I actually noticed that one but didn't press play assuming it was dubbed. Wish it was without subtitles though as I find them extremely distracting, but nice for spanish speakers I guess.


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I will mention Kuroi Ame (Black Rain) - 1989. Don't confuse it with the American film of the same Black Rain name. It's not a really arcane film, as looking it up, it has over 2500 votes at IMDB, and 13 review at rottentomatoes and I found it at a local library (well, before I moved to this less than stellar area), but I found it so moving. Hiroshima Mon Amour put me in mind of it.

It is also on youtube, I see, and it has 121 upvotes and one down vote:



It's directed by Shohei Imamura, a famous Japanese director, so yeah, even if this isn't obscure enough, I still want to mention it, and it concerns the aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing.

Originally posted by rottentomatoes rottentomatoes wrote:

When a young woman visits Hiroshima on the day of the atomic bombing, she somehow survives to return to her village. Her village has been affected by the black rain of the bomb's aftermath, and as the villagers sicken, they begin to blame her for bringing this back to them.


I also want to mention another Imamura film that touched me called Vengeance is Mine (1979), which I had also found at the library about 20 years ago. I found it superb and it has 100 a percent rating at rottentomatoes with ten reviews.

Here is the description from there:

Originally posted by rottentomatoes rottentomatoes wrote:

Based on the true story, 'Vengeance is Mine' is the story of Iwao Enokizu and his murderous rampage which sparked a 78-day nationwide manhunt. Enokizu is a day-laborer and smalltime con-artist who, after killing two of his co-workers, embarks on a psychopathic spree of rape and murder. Eluding the police and public, Japan's infamous "King of Criminals" passes himself off as a Kyoto University professor, only to become entangled with an innkeeper and her perverted mother


I also liked his The Eel (Unagi) which is the only one of his I saw as a new release in the cinema.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I will mention Kuroi Ame (Black Rain) - 1989.
For the first few stunning (I overuse that term) minutes alone I love it - gonna watch it all obviously
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Btw Logan I really appreciate all these thoughts you share about all kinds of interesting topics etc... I do read most but I'm just not in a place where I can allow myself to contribute very much. Writing in english is extra time consuming in itself and well when it comes to deeper, more meaningful discussions I simply give up before even trying. 
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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Friede and I love this little short movie:



This short movie is beautiful.


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Watched that before when you or Jean posted (perhaps in a short film topic I once did -- it's a medium that I wish got more attention).

A great short, I think, is Over, which is based on an actual event:



And in another, this time in a sci-fi realm, that I loved is Reset.



There are lots of short films that I love.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I will mention Kuroi Ame (Black Rain) - 1989.

For the first few stunning (I overuse that term) minutes alone I love it - gonna watch it all obviously


Thanks, it is a beautifully done and I found very moving film.

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Btw Logan I really appreciate all these thoughts you share about all kinds of interesting topics etc... I do read most but I'm just not in a place where I can allow myself to contribute very much. Writing in english is extra time consuming in itself and well when it comes to deeper, more meaningful discussions I simply give up before even trying. 


You write so well when you do write that I forget that you have English as a second language.

I'm far too wordy and I ramble. I'm really happy to see what you do post because you happen to have extremely good taste from my perspective (better than mine - a more artistic sensibility). When it comes to music especially, you've had an enormous impact on me.

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Btw Logan I really appreciate all these thoughts you share about all kinds of interesting topics etc... I do read most but I'm just not in a place where I can allow myself to contribute very much. Writing in english is extra time consuming in itself and well when it comes to deeper, more meaningful discussions I simply give up before even trying. 

Yeah, surprising to hear that English is a second language to you, wish I could write this clearly. More than 3 serious phrases in English for me and I'm mentally exhausted...the reason why I'm sticking to my traditional 3 to 8 words mostly silly posts..haha!
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Hi,

A fun topic for me, since I am known for this more than anything else in film reviews.

I have always been a great fan of International Film Festivals, and many times I have gotten comments because I have always said ... don't go see the English, American films ... they will show up in Video or CD, sooner or later ... go see the film from that country "Shangri La", because you will NEVER EVER AGAIN hear about that film or that country!

I did not list the great/old film makers in the history of film, and we might even consider another thread, where we can list 15 of these or so, to give them their due value. Hard for me not to list a Godard film, or a Bunuel film, for example, as they are 2 of my favorites to watch/ Godard, even in his old days, is still a kid with a camera in his hands!

That said, here is a small list and these are on my website: (no order in these except alpha from my files!)

200 Motels - amazing film too far out there for most folks. It does not have the Zappa guitar solo that you want, or the radio rock sound ... so if you are looking for that, this is not for you!

Aguirre, The Wrath of God - excellent mix of music and film editing, and totally ad-lib work by Klaus Kinsky. The moments of the music work fitting the film (beginning and ending sequences), are worth the price of admission alone.

Allegro Non Troppo - Italian version of FANTASIA, and a lot of fun to watch and enjoy!

A Woman's Tale - Australian tour de force ... must see!

Bitter Sugar - Cuban film that even includes very progressive music. 

Derek Jarman's Caravaggio, and Tempest, and his opus Jubilee

Chimes at Midnight - Orson Welles story of Falstaff, taken from 3 or 4 Shakespearean plays

Henry & June - Film about the American writer and his wife.

Jesus of Montreal - Massive!

Journey of Hope - with music by a couple of ECM folks, this film won an OSCAR.

La Belle Noiseusse - Jacques Rivette's 4 hour film ... supeerb, except that many folks do not like to watch a hand paint a canvas!

La Reine Margot - French savagery of the highest degree. Might give you an idea why Alan Stivell is so political in many of his albums!

Not Mozart - Very tough film, specially for American audiences, but totally fun and out of its mind! 

Performance - One of the best films ever made. Too literary and way out there with an impossible ending that makes the film even weirder. But it is excellent with magnificent use of music (trend that Nicolas Roeg continued into many films), and outstanding performances.

Steppenwolf - Little known film that used cartoons for some of the thinking passages of the story ... too good to just pass up! Not as good as the novel itself, but it sure makes film feel ... limiting!

Carmen - Carlos Saura's version brings modern dance to the front ... "you dance with your eyes, not your ass." The film is a visual stunning delight, and the best of all the dance films that Carlos did including his earlier trilogy.

The Devils - Ken Russell's tour de force about Urbain Grandier. 

The Double Life of Veronique - Tremendous film and music ... superb in every way.

The Fencing Master - Spanish film that goes above and beyond any fencing film you have ever seen, and its story and presentation is electric!

The Wild Bunch - Sam Peckinpah's incredible film is probably the best and most savage western ever made. 

The Island on Bird Street - Little known film that got some aproval in many Film Festivals, but could not break the popular areas. It was marketed as a child's film but it is not one ... and its impressive work and story stands out where most films just talk!

Woodstock - Well known film with great performances, helped create a myth around many of these bands, including those that we never saw footage from. Sadly, it ends on the worst possible image ... the national anthem played before ... garbage ... it's the eternal symbol about how much we really care ... the whole thing ... was ... (well, it meant more for me, and it wasn't garbage!)

Probably more that I have not listed ... but this will do for now.
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