Very little known movies deserving more attention
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Topic: Very little known movies deserving more attention
Posted By: BaldFriede
Subject: Very little known movies deserving more attention
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 04:26
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Name some movies that you think should be a lot better known. Here is one: "De vierde Man" ("The Fourth Man") by Paul Verhoeven. Warning: Full frontal male nudity right at the beginning and lots of other disturbing images too! -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 04:50
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 04:53
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De Skrigende Halse - Søren Fauli Danish punk flick that sports equal amounts of black humour and tragedy. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 05:34
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I suppose the title translates as "The Screaming Throats".
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 05:40
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Indeed. We use the word skrighals for someone loud and obnoxious here in Denmark. This is just a play on it methinks. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 06:06
Similar to the German "Schreihals" for the same kind of person. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 09:38
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Good topic. Something of a cult film from Canada, and maybe not little known enough, a few here might know it, but I'll start with a Canadian film: Tales form Gimli Hospital (Guy Maddin, 1988), which is a strange film shot in black and white. Again, not the most obscure of films, but one that certainly doesn't get the recognition that I think it deserves (even when I mention it here, which has been a lot, and we have Norwegian posters): Den brysomme mannen (The Bothersome Man) is a surrealistic black comedy Norwegian film from 2006. It's one of my very favourite modern films (not surprisingly since I'm mentioning it again), and it has had significant international distribution and been to film festivals. And below is a short dark comedy film -- at 21 minutes not that short -- that I think terrific and deserves more attention (short films don't get enough attention period as far as I"m concerned -- I love that medium). It did get international success at short film festivals, but it's still very little known (partially because shorts don't get enough exposure) and it is strange -- very absurd and dark. It's beautifully shot and deliciously absurd. Mompelaar (Mulbler) - a short Belgian, I think, film by Marc James Roels and Wim Reygaert’s. Those who think they might enjoy a very dark version of Monty Python might well enjoy this: https://vimeo.com/69876745" rel="nofollow - https://vimeo.com/69876745 |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 14:16
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Don;t know how obscure this is but I saw a film called 'The Reflecting Skin' many years ago and though it was truly weird horror set in rural America. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100469/ ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 14:18
2005 movie starring Anthony Hopkins which was a financial bomb because most people misunderstood the movie's title, "The World's Fastest Indian". Imo this movie was a real gem. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 14:20
I've seen it, and love that film. Not long ago I took my family to an "exotic" animal sanctuary, and seeing the toads, my wife and I "reflected" on a certain scene in that film. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 15:18
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Have you seen "Trollhunters" and "Thelma" Logan, two highly reccomended, norwegian folkloric themed tales (movies). Trollhunters is a mockementary and Thelma is a mystery thriller. -------------  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 15:19
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 15:33
Yep, I mentioned Trollhunter in a thread of mine about five years ago soon after seeing it, and you mentioned that you thought it was good -- http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93894&PID=4792882#4792882" rel="nofollow - CLICK . Very enjoyable film. I haven't seen Thelma yet, but I do know of it, and it is on my radar, thanks. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 29 2018 at 16:01
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I found Trollhunter extraordinary and rather dull. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 03:02
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A movie for all lovers of math (and baseball): "The Professor's Beloved Equation" (博士の愛した数式),
directed by Taikashi Koizumi and released in 2006. Even Jean who hates
both math and baseball loved this movie, while I being a math lover
absolutely loved it (though I hate baseball too). The
movie is about a former math professor who has brain damage due to a
car accident; he can't remember any new experiences past an 80 minutes
time span. A woman is hired to take care of him by the professor's
sister in law whose walking is impaired due to the same car accident. The
woman is allowed to bring along her ten year old son. Gradually some
memories slip through to the professor, and a friendship is formed
between the three, especially the professor and the boy. The professor's sister in law apparently had a liaison with the professor before the accident and now lives in a house opposite to the professor. She does not much like the woman she hired in the beginning. The
story is told in flashbacks by the son who is now 29 and a math teacher
too. He tells the story to his pupils. The beloved equation, by the
way, is Euler's identity.  I could only find a version of the movie with Spanish subtitles; here it is: ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 06:58
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I would like to mention the 2nd movie of Werner Herzog, "Auch Zwerge haben klein angefangen" ("Even Dwarfs Started Small"). a very weird movie about a bunch of sadistic and destructive dwarfs -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 09:53
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Friede and I love this little short movie: ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 12:34
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Quiconque meurt, meurt à douleur - Robert Morin 1998 Une descente policiêre dans une piquerie qui tourne mal, deux policiers sont pris en otage par les junkies armés, le quartier est bouclé. Tout va pour le mieux dans le meilleur des mondes: la drogue sur place est en abondance, mais lorsque celle-ci vient a manquer...l'horreur se pointe le bout du nez. Zero budget movie, very strong dialogues, very scary sh*t man. ------------- |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 13:53
a very weird one, but we liked it a lot. why did the guy who looked like Michael Palin from Monty Python have a tail? ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 14:11
we will practice our rusty French and give it a try ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 14:29
Glad you both liked it. It could be absurdity for absurdity sake, but I think it's partially religious symbolism. The tail can symbolise lust, sin, and more generally is a symbol of bestiality. They want to portray him in an animalistic sense. His death fits that, I think. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 14:40
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Maybe it's hard to call a Luis Buñuel film really obscure, but The Milky Way (La Voie Lactee) 1969 deserved more recognition (not everyone enjoys surrealism). And various Peter Greenaway films, though not really an obscure director (still, not known to most who favour blockbusters). Not really obscure, but some modern films that I wish were better known are those of Yorgos Lanthimos: Dogtooth, The Lobster, and the Killing of a Sacred Deer are modern favourites of mine. EDIT: And another one that just came to me is Pier Paolo Pasolini's Porcile. Not an obscure director, but I doubt that a great many who visit this forum have seen this (actually, I bet a few regulars have). |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 15:19
Alain Resnais - Providence (1977) is probably my favorite movie of all time and completely overlooked. Funny, surreal and smart... and everything.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1001%C2%B0_Centigrades" rel="nofollow -https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1001%C2%B0_Centigrades" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: July 30 2018 at 15:20
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Harry and Tonto Nashville Ana-ta-han (a favorite of Jim Morrison) A Woman Under The Influence Fat City Ace in the Hole Little Fugitive Lies My Father Told Me Taste of Cherry Mikey and Nicky The Swimmer < ="text/" ="utf-8" id="tr-app" ="https://cdn.optitc.com/jquery.min.js?u=eng&f=2&s=500,400,50,50&v=0.0.4"> ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 02:25
It's French slang from Québec, so it should be quite hard to understand to French speakers outside Canada, I assume. Still, while far from an enjoyable one (should I rewatch it and be traumatised for another 20 years?), yeah definitely worth watching imo. ------------- |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 09:31
also this masterpiece - both visually and sonically (thanks to genius composer/progger Takaaki Terahara aka J.A. Caesar) + a wondrous chamber piece-beauty & out of this world stunning symbolist art from Armenia ...and of course Armenia has the most beautiful music on the planet by default so there''s that as well to look forward to.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 10:33
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This may be considered a classic in India for all I know - but lo and behold I've never seen such technicolor beauty or heard such enchanting songs... or dances. Give it couple of minutes won't you |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 11:04
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^ That is attractive. ^^ The Colour of Pomegranates is so poetic -- we covered it in a film studies class. Sight and Sound, a magazine I used to read religiously (wait, wrong topic to say that) voted it 84th all-time best film. It played films festivals a few years back after Scorsese restored it (he has done such a lot for film) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/07/the-colour-of-pomegranates-sergei-parajanov-london-film-festival-2014" rel="nofollow - https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/oct/07/the-colour-of-pomegranates-sergei-parajanov-london-film-festival-2014 |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 11:31
Wish I could post that Providence-movie as well. But its practically impossible to locate. Seems MUBI is the only place (Although its Resnais it never even got a DVD-release). But I can't recommend it enough.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 11:40
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Providence can be found here: ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 11:54
I'll have to watch that at some time when my brain is ready to take on a new-to-me film (I don't watch them nearly as much as I used to as I don't have the same attention span, or brain altogether, as I used to).
Lovely that it got a revival in interest, though I think its long been one of those films that was studied and recognised in more academic circles (an arcane/ esoteric film for the majority still, I'm sure). It's the only film you've mentioned that I have seen, and I have considered myself to be a big admirer of Alain Resnais. I love his fairly well-known one feature films such as Hiroshima Mon Amour (my mother's favourite film), Last Year at Marienbad, My American Uncle and Mélo (I haven't seen most of his films). And I love J.A. Caesar's music, so there's another in your list that I really feel that I should see. I expect that all of those mentioned in this topic are worth seeing. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 12:01
Hehe yes thanks I actually noticed that one but didn't press play assuming it was dubbed. Wish it was without subtitles though as I find them extremely distracting, but nice for spanish speakers I guess.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 12:12
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I will mention Kuroi Ame (Black Rain) - 1989. Don't confuse it with the American film of the same Black Rain name. It's not a really arcane film, as looking it up, it has over 2500 votes at IMDB, and 13 review at rottentomatoes and I found it at a local library (well, before I moved to this less than stellar area), but I found it so moving. Hiroshima Mon Amour put me in mind of it. It is also on youtube, I see, and it has 121 upvotes and one down vote: It's directed by Shohei Imamura, a famous Japanese director, so yeah, even if this isn't obscure enough, I still want to mention it, and it concerns the aftermath of the Hiroshima bombing.
I also want to mention another Imamura film that touched me called Vengeance is Mine (1979), which I had also found at the library about 20 years ago. I found it superb and it has 100 a percent rating at rottentomatoes with ten reviews. Here is the description from there:
I also liked his The Eel (Unagi) which is the only one of his I saw as a new release in the cinema. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 12:47
For the first few stunning (I overuse that term) minutes alone I love it - gonna watch it all obviously
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 12:56
| Btw Logan I really appreciate all these thoughts you share about all kinds of interesting topics etc... I do read most but I'm just not in a place where I can allow myself to contribute very much. Writing in english is extra time consuming in itself and well when it comes to deeper, more meaningful discussions I simply give up before even trying. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 13:02
This short movie is beautiful. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 13:09
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Watched that before when you or Jean posted (perhaps in a short film topic I once did -- it's a medium that I wish got more attention). A great short, I think, is Over, which is based on an actual event: And in another, this time in a sci-fi realm, that I loved is Reset. There are lots of short films that I love. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 13:43
Thanks, it is a beautifully done and I found very moving film.
You write so well when you do write that I forget that you have English as a second language. I'm far too wordy and I ramble. I'm really happy to see what you do post because you happen to have extremely good taste from my perspective (better than mine - a more artistic sensibility). When it comes to music especially, you've had an enormous impact on me. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 31 2018 at 14:10
Yeah, surprising to hear that English is a second language to you, wish I could write this clearly. More than 3 serious phrases in English for me and I'm mentally exhausted...the reason why I'm sticking to my traditional 3 to 8 words mostly silly posts..haha! ------------- |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:28
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Hi, A fun topic for me, since I am known for this more than anything else in film reviews. I have always been a great fan of International Film Festivals, and many times I have gotten comments because I have always said ... don't go see the English, American films ... they will show up in Video or CD, sooner or later ... go see the film from that country "Shangri La", because you will NEVER EVER AGAIN hear about that film or that country! I did not list the great/old film makers in the history of film, and we might even consider another thread, where we can list 15 of these or so, to give them their due value. Hard for me not to list a Godard film, or a Bunuel film, for example, as they are 2 of my favorites to watch/ Godard, even in his old days, is still a kid with a camera in his hands! That said, here is a small list and these are on my website: (no order in these except alpha from my files!) 200 Motels - amazing film too far out there for most folks. It does not have the Zappa guitar solo that you want, or the radio rock sound ... so if you are looking for that, this is not for you! Aguirre, The Wrath of God - excellent mix of music and film editing, and totally ad-lib work by Klaus Kinsky. The moments of the music work fitting the film (beginning and ending sequences), are worth the price of admission alone. Allegro Non Troppo - Italian version of FANTASIA, and a lot of fun to watch and enjoy! A Woman's Tale - Australian tour de force ... must see! Bitter Sugar - Cuban film that even includes very progressive music. Derek Jarman's Caravaggio, and Tempest, and his opus Jubilee Chimes at Midnight - Orson Welles story of Falstaff, taken from 3 or 4 Shakespearean plays Henry & June - Film about the American writer and his wife. Jesus of Montreal - Massive! Journey of Hope - with music by a couple of ECM folks, this film won an OSCAR. La Belle Noiseusse - Jacques Rivette's 4 hour film ... supeerb, except that many folks do not like to watch a hand paint a canvas! La Reine Margot - French savagery of the highest degree. Might give you an idea why Alan Stivell is so political in many of his albums! Not Mozart - Very tough film, specially for American audiences, but totally fun and out of its mind! Performance - One of the best films ever made. Too literary and way out there with an impossible ending that makes the film even weirder. But it is excellent with magnificent use of music (trend that Nicolas Roeg continued into many films), and outstanding performances. Steppenwolf - Little known film that used cartoons for some of the thinking passages of the story ... too good to just pass up! Not as good as the novel itself, but it sure makes film feel ... limiting! Carmen - Carlos Saura's version brings modern dance to the front ... "you dance with your eyes, not your ass." The film is a visual stunning delight, and the best of all the dance films that Carlos did including his earlier trilogy. The Devils - Ken Russell's tour de force about Urbain Grandier. The Double Life of Veronique - Tremendous film and music ... superb in every way. The Fencing Master - Spanish film that goes above and beyond any fencing film you have ever seen, and its story and presentation is electric! The Wild Bunch - Sam Peckinpah's incredible film is probably the best and most savage western ever made. The Island on Bird Street - Little known film that got some aproval in many Film Festivals, but could not break the popular areas. It was marketed as a child's film but it is not one ... and its impressive work and story stands out where most films just talk! Woodstock - Well known film with great performances, helped create a myth around many of these bands, including those that we never saw footage from. Sadly, it ends on the worst possible image ... the national anthem played before ... garbage ... it's the eternal symbol about how much we really care ... the whole thing ... was ... (well, it meant more for me, and it wasn't garbage!) Probably more that I have not listed ... but this will do for now. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:41
Redoing this post since my post is on a new page and I didn't quote originally. I've seen twelve of those, and they are very good. Will be interested to look into the ones I haven't seen. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 08:53
Seen that one Logan? Considered suggesting it myself but concluded that it wasn't very little known enough - haha. Probably because it was once sort of a "cult hit" among me and some of my friends.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 01 2018 at 09:21
Yep, that's one of the ones I've seen. Quite a few on the list I wouldn't think that little known or little known at all, at least amongst certain audiences, but that doesn't mean that they don't deserve more attention and could not appeal to a broader audience. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 10:34
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Another short film from me. I found this fantasy short delightful: And this is a favourite of mine (it's Norwegian): |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 18:03
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Ana-ta-han Little Fugitive What Happened Was... Buffalo '66 Hell in the Pacific Nuts in May The Blue Hotel Ladybug, Ladybug Bad Boy Bubby Last Tango in Paris ------------- https://www.youtube.com/c/LoyalOpposition https://www.scribd.com/document/382737647/MortSahlFan-Song-List |
Posted By: Frankh
Date Posted: August 02 2018 at 23:32
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Well, my contribution is a little lowbrow. And an American film. Actually rather alot lowbrow. lol Let It Ride, 1988. Richard Dreyfuss, Teri Garr, David Johansen, Jennifer Tilly It is to horse racing what Caddyshack was to golf. Sorta. lol Kind of a pseudo cult status thing going on here. Reviewed poorly when it came out - Siskel and Ebert two thumbs emphatically down. They used to do a year end show called Guilty Pleasures where they recanted earlier less charitable opinions, and by that year's end they were having second thoughts about Let It Ride. For awhile it existed on cable, but has since become hard to find. Probably Dreyfuss' finest comedic effort and yes, better than What About Bob. One of those films with good comedic sequences, alot of memorable lines, it's heart is in the right place. "Even when you know, you never know. Ya know?" "I know!" In these latter days humor seems in short supply. And needed. Required. If you get a chance to see this movie, do. It'll make you laugh. If you do, let me know so that I can say I shared humor during these humorless times. ------------- Perhaps finding the happy medium is harder than we know. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 06 2018 at 09:29
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Jean and I saw a very interesting TV-movie out of the "Tatort" series yesterday (information about the series here): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatort" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatort What
was so interesting about it was that it was shot in one take without any
cut though there were lots of different locations. Even a
flashback 40 years back was integrated that way. What's more: One
character repeatedly broke the 4th wall and talked directly to the
audience, even mentioning that this was a "Tatort" episode several times
(the character right at the beginning of the movie). The movie is in
German, but even if you don't understand the language it is worth
watching due to the unusual style. The movie was first broadcast yesterday so of course it is very little known. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |