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Subwoofer you say? I'm not so sure... I prefer to remain in the Holy Path...

Plus I'm not a great devote of home theatre and film on DVD, mainly because I'm a bit sat TV addicted... 

 

Mmmmm......

the dragon wrote: Subwoofer you say? I'm not so sure... I prefer to remain in the Holy Path... Plus I'm not a great devote of home theatre and film on DVD, mainly because I'm a bit sat TV addicted...    Mmmmm......

I was like you! i believed that a subwoofer is not musical and makes boom-boom.
But there are musical ones, intended only for music, 2 channels systems. (i don't do video and i hate multi channels systems)

The effect is:
-a huge opening of the image, 3d effect.You don't hear from where the music comes (because the extreme low is propaging on a omnidirectional way, contrary to speakers ).

-A real sub features at least a 38 cm hp, which is the minimum to reproduce extreme low. Bass amps feature 38 cm loudspeakers, so when you hear a bass on a sub, it' s like the bass player is in the room.

-It enhances low but also high!! it's softens the highs, moreover! it adds much dynamic, precense, details...
As soon as you try it, you can't do without!!
especially with a pair of stand speakers!


Here's mine (Magnat omega 380)
Featuring a 200 watts amp.
(The speaker is below, oriented towards the ground)

Vibration cancellers accesories:

Here are ceramic cones that i strongly advice you !

Put that under your electronics (CD, amp) and it will change everything...



Fadel/Amethyst (teflon/steel balls on stell base and teflon up)




You can add carbon kevlar plate, which are extraordinary.

And here's the best vib canceller(the plate is in magnetic levitation)

the dragon wrote: Ok for the ceramic cones... but vib canceller in magnetic levitation is too far for me... and probably it cost more than the entire NAD + ProAc system ... You own the Relaxa Two Plus in the picture above?

Yes, you’re right, Relaxa is as expensive and it’s not for you yet, considering your (future) system.
No, I don’t own any Relaxa plate for the moment, my best friend has two: one under his linn LP12 turntable and another under his Counterpoint SA5000 preamplifier.
I use myself a combination of ceramic cones under carbon/Kevlar plate and between the device and the plate, I put a set of Amethyst.
This combination is quite expensive (about 500 € for the whole) but it’s the best I know after the Relaxa.

To come back to your system, 2 sets of ceramic cones (100€ each) will add a dramatic improvement
. If too expensive for you, best put one set of 3 cones under the CD, which is more sensitive to vib than the amp and put cheaper steel cones under the amp.

Another essential tip is to put your CD on a stable and steady support (or directly on the floor if it’s hard floor), to put the ceramic cones below and to put the CD horizontal in the two dimensions with a plumb level. To reach horizontality, you can use little pieces of HARD wood that you put between the ground (or support, shelf) and the cones. Avoid soft matters which trap the vibrations. The harder the matter, the best the vibes flow.

You can also put a heavy weight on your cd to cancel vibes (like a granit piece)
This tip is also working for many devices, like speakers, subwoofer (I’ve put 100 kg of weight on my subwoofer).

The horizontality tip is also working for loudspeakers.

If you do all that, this will makes “boooom”

Wow, I'm sure that if I wish to buy your HiFi system I need to the national defence budget....

But actually i'm not an audiophile, i think of myself like a music lover: i like a song for the song itself, the melody, the lyrics: i don't care if the sound is cristal clear (for now...). Maybe i haven't the right ear. There are many things that i must learn, i think .

In fact my actual budget is 3000 Euro: then i must to consider first the main component and then the rest (but if i understood something about your advices, you consider vital all the component, right?): but, if i enjoy the game, an add on to the budget isn't a great problem.

Now I need some time to digest your advices and make a plan to fit all the system in my room and my spaces...

 

btw: your friend own a Counterpoint SA5000 preamplifier: is a legend or is THE best?

Edited by the dragon

...and if you want to go further, these are serious options to consider:

Jolida 302 instead of the Nad -another world- (it's mine)




Magnat Omega 380

...i don't want to confuse you, but with such a budget, you can also reconsider the choice of the CD source

Nad is an EXCELLENT choice. Their CD are neutral and very musical. If you buy one, you'll be very happy anyway.
But considering your budget, why not turning on something a little more dynamic like a Naim CD5? (you can get this for 500€ on occasion).The Naim's sound aesthetic is very good for rock!
On a musical level, it has matter, weight, it's soft in the highs but quick and has dynamic (more than Nad). It images quite well and it's present. And it's very musical of course!

On a technical side, their drawer system is very well and reliable, it's made of a piece of stell or something close, contrary to most plastic drawers, even on high end machines. It's manual so it avoid some polluting circuits. And it looks very nice.













Edited by oliverstoned

You uses so exquisite words that I suspect that you are an HiFi seller... ...

Yes, ok, in the next weeks i must pass from the planning phase to the executive plan...

Tank you again for the advices, see you on the site.