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Henry Plainview
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Posted: February 21 2009 at 23:41 |
Weigh in on inclusion please. I should listen to Agalloch. There are too many things I should listen to. Also, I misjudged Don Cabelloro, World Class Listening problem is good so far, it is not as similar to tech metal as I thought.
Edited by Henry Plainview - February 21 2009 at 23:51
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 01:47 |
Argh, I didn't even listen to The Mantle at all, I was listening to PMT stuff I had to evaluate mainly and didn't even listen to it at all, doubt I can't make a good review of it now.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 01:54 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
Pale Folklore had too many weak points for me to give it a 4 unfortunately. If you read my review, you'll see what I mean.
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The wild & wonderful thing about Agalloch is that, despite all their flaws, they keep me entranced the entire time I'm listening to them. They take me to another place, send chills down my spine, etc. I don't care how sloppy the drumming is, or that they wrote a bass line with a clearly out-of-key note when the lead line in "Hallways of Enchanted Ebony" breaks in. It's just ineffable, I guess. Like, clearly from a technical, methodical, whatever kind of objective stand point, the album is clearly flawed and amateurish in its execution, but I defy anyone with an open mind not to be caught in the atmosphere or get lost in the soaring guitar leads like the aforementioned. |
Well I understand what you mean. I guess for me, as a musician and someone that plays guitar 2-4 hours a day, things like out of tune notes in a solo seriously do bother me and can detract a lot from the overall feel of an album, and to me represents poor musicianship and it's not something I can easily overlook, because when I hear those out of tune notes, it's completely jarring to my ears, because of my background as a musician who's done ear training it just sounds horrible and wrong to me. For the Mantle I feel the band stepped it up a notch overall and for Ashes Against The Grain, they were more refined and the compositions were just ultra tight and the musicianship spot on, and that album for me, is something I could easily listen to everyday of the week and not get sick of.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 15:25 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Moatilliatta wrote:
HughesJB4 wrote:
Pale Folklore had too many weak points for me to give it a 4 unfortunately. If you read my review, you'll see what I mean.
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The wild & wonderful thing about Agalloch is that, despite all their flaws, they keep me entranced the entire time I'm listening to them. They take me to another place, send chills down my spine, etc. I don't care how sloppy the drumming is, or that they wrote a bass line with a clearly out-of-key note when the lead line in "Hallways of Enchanted Ebony" breaks in. It's just ineffable, I guess. Like, clearly from a technical, methodical, whatever kind of objective stand point, the album is clearly flawed and amateurish in its execution, but I defy anyone with an open mind not to be caught in the atmosphere or get lost in the soaring guitar leads like the aforementioned. |
Well I understand what you mean. I guess for me, as a musician and someone that plays guitar 2-4 hours a day, things like out of tune notes in a solo seriously do bother me and can detract a lot from the overall feel of an album, and to me represents poor musicianship and it's not something I can easily overlook, because when I hear those out of tune notes, it's completely jarring to my ears, because of my background as a musician who's done ear training it just sounds horrible and wrong to me.
For the Mantle I feel the band stepped it up a notch overall and for Ashes Against The Grain, they were more refined and the compositions were just ultra tight and the musicianship spot on, and that album for me, is something I could easily listen to everyday of the week and not get sick of.
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I understand. I play guitar and drums, and it bothered me for the longest time, but I guess I got over it.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:20 |
Mono, these guys never stops to amaze me. they released video for ''Follow the map '' , this is my ode to joy simple ,but inspiring enjoy (if you haven't seen yet)
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burritounit
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:32 |
angelmk wrote:
Mono, these guys never stops to amaze me. they released video for ''Follow the map '' , this is my ode to joy simple ,but inspiring enjoy (if you haven't seen yet)
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Wow. The song is amazing. Made me listen to them once again.
Edited by burritounit - February 22 2009 at 17:32
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angelmk
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:41 |
Mono are always full of life . give a fresh air, unburden one from all the difficulties in real world, Transcedental music
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burritounit
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:44 |
I suppose they are...though I didn't like that much their albums before You Are There...except for a few songs like COM?
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angelmk
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:47 |
well, i love all their albums except Palmless Prayer Mass Murder Refrain, that is to slowcore for me, World ends girlds friend has mixed things there ,album is anoying, to many string , but Walking Cloud And Deep Red Sky, Flag Fluttered And The Sun Shined,, One Step More And You Die,Under the Pipal Tree are great, Maybe you didn't give them proper attention?
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burritounit
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:51 |
I'd like to think I didn't. I guess that I liked You Are There too much.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 17:57 |
you are there is awesome indeed
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burritounit
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:01 |
Yeah...I even reviewed it. Can't remember what I said though...
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burritounit
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:03 |
Have you ever heard The Pirate Ship Quintet? or Yndi Halda?
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Raff
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:12 |
OK, I know you'll be surprised to see me post here, but I'm very open-minded (not to mention curious) about music, and I'm always willing to give anything a try.... Yesterday Micky and I went to DC and visited a very well-stocked, independent music store in the Dupont Circle area. There we found some interesting stuff, including Pelican's The Fire in Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw. Since I love instrumental music, and have read so many positive comments about the band here, I got the album, and this morning listened to it (while doing the housework of all things!).... Great stuff indeed, and something that will encourage me to delve deeper into the subgenres of Post Rock and Post Metal. So, if you see me again here, don't be too surprised ...
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:23 |
angelmk wrote:
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I like to think I have a life, too. |
Me too, It's great to have life outside this cyber world ,which i don't , unfortunately, but i don't complain. in city where i live Kocani, in Macedonia life is borring as hell ,no rock shows, no metal anywhere , no nothing ,no cool places to hang out and internet is only amusement i have.particulary this forum. |
I'd like to think I have that same excuse for not getting out more, but sadly, I don't, given I like in a city with 3.5 million other people. There is actually heaps of gigs in Melbourne, but the problem is money and of course, finding people to go with. Sure, I've got plenty of friends, but none of them are really into stuff like post metal, or technical death metal or anything like that, they are all pretty conservative with their music tastes. The most 'out there' tastes a few of my friends have, is stuff like Dream Theater, heh. I guess I could resort to getting drunk in the suburbs all weekend, but I grew out of that. I guess I could go to gigs alone, but I always feel more comfortable going with other people.
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Dominic
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:23 |
Dim wrote:
Mantle reviews are due today! |
Nooo! I need an extension. Btw, i hope nobody kills me if i don't make super positive comments about every track on the album
Henry Plainview wrote:
Also, I misjudged Don Cabelloro, World Class Listening problem is good so far, it is not as similar to tech metal as I thought.
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That's actually my fav. Don Cab album; although from the archive reviews it seems that many were bummed with Don Cab after Ian Williams left, i kind felt that WCLP contains some of their most focused compositions.
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Dim
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:27 |
Raff wrote:
OK, I know you'll be surprised to see me post here, but I'm very open-minded (not to mention curious) about music, and I'm always willing to give anything a try.... Yesterday Micky and I went to DC and visited a very well-stocked, independent music store in the Dupont Circle area. There we found some interesting stuff, including Pelican's The Fire in Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw. Since I love instrumental music, and have read so many positive comments about the band here, I got the album, and this morning listened to it (while doing the housework of all things!).... Great stuff indeed, and something that will encourage me to delve deeper into the subgenres of Post Rock and Post Metal. So, if you see me again here, don't be too surprised... |
Clappies for you!
THe Fire in our throats is one of those seminal, eye opening albums for me. Pure genious! You'll find yourself very welcome here, like everyone else!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:28 |
I listened to WCLP for the first time about 2 days, I highly enjoyed it.
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:42 |
that's nice to hear Raff -- and mathrock? ..did you ever end up getting any Don Cab, I think we've discussed both For Respect and American Don, I'd recommend either
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Raff
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Posted: February 22 2009 at 18:46 |
Unfortunately not yet, David.... They had those CDs at one of my regular music stores in Rome, but when I left I had to watch my expenses (the move of my belongings here cost me an arm and a leg), and so the records were forgotten. However, I am planning to get at least those you recommended. Thanks to that link you sent me some time ago , we have found some interesting independent music stores in our area, most of which sell secondhand CDs at good prices.
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