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JJLehto 
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Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
 Posted: May 18 2007 at 18:35 |
 ....Yup these rule changes are not making the sport any better....thats for sure.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 18:51 |
  Why...oh why...
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I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 19:58 |
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Also, I really dont see how all these rules REDUCE the costs of the sport.
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sleeper
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 20:14 |
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They dont, in reality the only real way to reduce costs is to impose a budget cap, otherwise teams are just going to spend what they have, which is as much as £300 million+ a year.
But 4 wheel drive, traction controle, 5 race engines and a massive reduction on all non-drivetrain technolgy will put the sport solely at the mercy of the manufacturers.  
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 18 2007 at 22:16 |
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It is sad. F1 is the pinnacle of motorsports....it dosn't seem so anymore.
The car is important, but now the driver has almost no imput. And those F1 engineers are amazing, if there's a way to make an engine last FIVE weeks and not lose any power....they'll figure it out. Edited by JJLehto - May 18 2007 at 22:35 |
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andu
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Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: May 19 2007 at 12:13 |
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I'll post this here since is bot fun and racing related. This weekend Bucharest hosts an in-city racing event, something very special as in-city circuits are very rare. The GT3 race today had a special guest - check out the video here: http://www.autof1.ro/index/Un_ciine_a_reusit_sa_intre_pe_pi.html
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sleeper
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 11:47 |
I watched the FIA GT race live here, fantastic race won by the Suduria Playteam Maserati MC12, even if it did piss down with rain. Good event and the track is definitely one of the better street tracks that I've come across (they're not that rare in the states) and the Parlimentory palace made for quite a backdrop, but there was a lot of crashes throughout the weekend, some people really needed to calm down. Edited by sleeper - May 20 2007 at 11:48 |
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Atkingani
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 11:48 |
One stupid guy made the poor dog returns to the lane...
 What happened in the end, Andu? I could understand almost all the text but the dog's fate after the race isn't explained.
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sleeper
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 11:54 |
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^ Good point, what did happen to the dog as I cant undersstand the commentator or read the text on the site, please tell me non of the cars hit it as it would make rather a mess of both.
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andu
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 12:36 |
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The site says the dog found his way out by himself (he probably found the place where he originally entered the track) while the amused spectators were applauding his efforts. Poor dog... but poorer logistics.
I didn't know the race is such an important event; years ago when I had a TV set I was familiar with the F1 but nothing more, so I didn't expect a GT3 race can get global coverage. Tickets were very expensive and the weather was bad, otherwise I would have attended the event. I read about the accidents due to the wet track, but also I read that there were problems also because the quality of the asphalt; the pilots said there were bumps and also sewer vents are visible in the video. The only other street track I know is that of Monte-Carlo, but that's because I'm only aware of the F1 stuff, as I said. Monte-Carlo is always spectacular, one of my favourites. Maybe the best race I can ever remember was a Senna vs. Nigel Mansell duel at Monte-Carlo, in the early 90s; unfortunately I don't remember who won. Edited by andu - May 20 2007 at 12:37 |
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sleeper
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Posted: May 20 2007 at 12:57 |
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I dont know if FIA GT's and GT3 gets global coverage, but its certainly a series on the rise after a very poor '06, and better TV coverage is something that was promised, and delivered, for this year.
Street tracks tend to be very bumpy and drivers are always complaining about this, but it didnt seem like Bucharest was worse than anywere else ( I remember a Champ Car race in Miami a few years ago, the track was extremely bumpy and one bump in particular was nicknamed the "ski jump" as the cars would get two or more wheels in the air!). I know the race your on about, Monaco '92, Senna won from Mansel in a very tough fight. |
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sleeper
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 08:17 |
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Its Monaco weekend and heres the first practice times:
1. ALONSO Mclaren 1m16.973s 2. HAMILTON McLaren 1m17.601s 3. HEIDFELD BMW 1m17.616s 4. FISICHELLA Renault 1m17.758s 5. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m17.918s 6. WEBBER Red Bull 1m17.956s 7. ROSBERG Williams 1m18.074s 8. MASSA Ferrari 1m18.189s 9. KUBICA BMW 1m18.675s 10. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m18.676s 11. WURZ Williams 1m18.869s 12. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m18.967s 13. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m19.095s 14. SATO Super Aguri 1m19.203s 15. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m19.285s 16. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m19.321s 17. BUTTON Honda 1m19.332s 18. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m19.337s 19. TRULLI Toyota 1m19.496s 20. R SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m19.799s 21. SUTIL Spyker 1m21.634s 22. ALBERS Spyker 1m23.235s Big gap between Alonso and Hamilton at the ront but Alonso was running the softer compound tyres, they'll probably swap in this afternoons session. Full run down here: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=39334 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 10:52 |
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Monaco!
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sleeper
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 13:28 |
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Second session times:
1. ALONSO McLaren 1m15.940s 2. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m16.215s 3. HAMILTON McLaren 1m16.296s 4. TRULLI Toyota 1m16.354s 5. FISICHELLA Renault 1m16.753s 6. MASSA Ferrari 1m16.784s 7. KUBICA BMW 1m16.848s 8. ROSBERG Williams 1m16.852s 9. WEBBER Red Bull 1m17.292s 10. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m17.414s 11. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m17.449s 12. BUTTON Honda 1m17.457s 13. SATO Super Aguri 1m17.459s 14. HEIDFELD BMW 1m17.486s 15. WURZ Williams 1m17.516s 16. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m17.898s 17. KOVALAINEN Renault 1m18.086s 18. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m18.233s 19. DAVIDSON Super Aguri 1m18.328s 20. SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m18.662s 21. ALBERS Spyker 1m18.820s 22. SUTIL Spyker 1m19.358s Round up: http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=39342 It appears that Hamilton has made the first mistake of his F1 career, crashing at turn 1, St Devote, trying to go faster than Alonso. Bound to happen some time, at least it wasnt in a race. Edited by sleeper - May 24 2007 at 13:31 |
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 24 2007 at 14:08 |
 Hamilton is NOT perfect after all...
J/K of course, even MS made mistakes.
I can't wait for this race, I love Monaco. I know it's slow, has no overtaking, and is not exactly the safest track....but I just think it's amazing. Edited by JJLehto - May 24 2007 at 14:08 |
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Hyperborea
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 20:44 |
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Hamilton is overrated and as yet not tested as a driver. The car he drives could be driven just as well by an elephant with it's trunk and legs tied behind it's back.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 25 2007 at 23:19 |
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Well, it is a bit soon to say overrated dont you think?
And what about MS and Ferarri? No one doubts his talent, but couldn't anyone have been put into his cars, and be successful?
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sleeper
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 11:31 |
Congratulations for proving how ignorant of Formula 1 you are, you are clearly forgetting that he is leading the championship in the second fastest car with a double world champion as his team mate. Yes, the press is going crazy over him and all the ex-champions coming out of the woodwork to proclaim him the best talant they have ever seen is getting tiresome, but its beginning to look like they might be right. Now here's tomorrows grid: 1. ALONSO Mclaren 2. HAMILTON McLaren 3. MASSA Ferrari 5. ROSBERG Williams 6. WEBBER Red Bull 8. KUBICA BMW 9. BARRICHELLO Honda 10. BUTTON Honda 11. WURZ Williams 13. TRULLI Toyota 14. KOVALAINEN Renault 15. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 18. SPEED Toro Rosso 19. SUTIL Spyker 20. SCHUMACHER Toyota 22. ALBERS Spyker As I suspected, the McLaren is a better suited car to Monaco than the Ferrari, it will either be Hamilton or Alonso that win tomorrow IMO. |
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 26 2007 at 19:18 |
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Ah missed qualifying. I'd say Hamlton will win (but I always do). He has a really good shot though.
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JJLehto
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Posted: May 27 2007 at 12:10 |
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Well, after seeing Alonso on pole I had a feeling he'd be tough to beat.
My congrats goes to Giancarlo, Kubica, and Wurz (for their 4th, 5th, and 7th place finishes). And a rare look of dissapointment at Kimi. He may have gotten that one point, but he should not have been down so far to begin with....
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