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Poll Question: Which three?
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

 


How very interesting, thanks for sharing. I've heard some of Manson's music-- liked it to be honest. I think the last film I saw in the cinema was Tanantino's Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, which controversially plays on the Manson family story. I liked the film, but I wasn't comfortable with it.   Speaking of films, and since there is a sad Polanski connection with Tarantino's film and Manson (the Sharon Tate angle is what made that film most uncomfortable for me, even if I think it's a clever concept -- reminds me of Robert Altman's The Player in a sense), I like Roman Polanski films even though I have problems with the man. I have known some who would refuse to watch any of his films on moral grounds.

There was a big Magma controversy due to Christian Vander's fascination with Nazi Germany and the utilisation of Nazi iconography and such.

" and "Tess."  I've not been to a movie theatre since early 2014, and haven't caught many films other ways since, but I was intrigued by the idea of that one.  Perhaps will get it on Netflix, when I move into the "new" house (new home on friend's property, still needs kitchen, so staying in the original house there now).  Sharon Tate is the other connection, she was from San Pedro/Palos Verdes (where I grew up).  First husband's (and incidentally, late husband's as well) musical partner's brother, dated Sharon Tate when they were in high school together.  Such a beautiful woman, such a horrible end to her life.



That is another interesting connection. And yes, it's so tragic. I even had to stop with Twin Peaks early on with the discovery of Laura's body (as a father with a teenage daughter, some of that was very hard to take). A young promising life lost is hard to take, even for me in fiction.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Art is often uncomfortable. A lot of great artists in every field have led less than spotless lives (and that's an understatement). We'd have to "cancel" almost everyone if we started looking for perfection.

13 pages of discussion! That's quite impressive Smile. Anyway, do we already know who's doing the next poll? I'd like to be added to the queue, as I have a nice idea for a future poll.


I think it's me, but I'm not sure. Speaking of cancel Culture, on July 1st we had Canada Day, and there were protests with people carrying sings reading "Cancel Canada" (it mostly had to do with the treatment of the indigenous peoples and the taking over of "native" lands). In Canada, I think the biggest issues have been and continue to be with the treatment of natives, as well as how the police deal with the mentally ill and addicts.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

interesting Greg... two of my favorite songs from two of my favorites ... and yeah they do share a commonality LOL Guess such morbid subject matter can make for the most interesting musical interpretations..







Yes. related, I rember that Blind Mlon had some controversy incolving the bee girl and paedophilia in their hit song "No Rain" (I loved that song) Which reminds me of another, that might be too popuar fora such a poll, but maybe should be my choice. I love Lolita, novel and Kubrick filmas well as the remake, and many are uncomfortable with that, but this Rolling Stones tune has uncomfortable lyrics, but I still like it. Yes, while I dislike the subject matter, perhaps this should my choice, I do feel rather guilty for having liked it.



For that matter, I posted a track in the first poll from Serge Gainsbourg's Histoire de Melody Nelson (I love that album) which is similarly uncomfortable.    I was into a young Japanese quirky singer, and my wife accused me of being a dirty old man ogling young girls (I'm younger than my wife -- how dare she call me old) ;) , which was not true at all (my wife and I met in Japan). Maybe this could have been my choice, because for a while I did feel guilty about liking her music.

Kyari Pamyu Pamyu




good choice on the Stones man... yeah.. even if we are men.. you know.. pigs at heart. That did walk the line of acceptable lyrics.   LOL

and as far as that other...  dirty old man?  Hell...  good thing I ain't your better half. I'd have thought you'd be shooting up and snorting sh*t and would have given you hell... 

for not sharing..

still a lot of catching up to do.. but that tops Nanowar as the most drugged out.. trippy .. flat outinsane video yet I've seen


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Nugent is another...  hmmm.. perhaps I might change again. He is not someone I should admit to loving.. but ..well.... how  can you resist LOL


 
 
Yeah, for me it's Stranglehold:
 
 
 
 
 
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wang dang is pure guilty pleasure LOL

but favorite Nuge... on no doubt .. this one




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Being a fellow Michigander, I used to think of him as "Uncle Ted".  He used to host a local morning radio show here to which I used to listen.  Although I am not a hunter, I respect his stance on hunting. As wacko as it sounds he did/does believe that the annual hunting is "a good thing" for the local deer populations to prevent them from overpopulation and dying of starvation in the winters as there is less competition for the limited food and more disease with more deer.  I think that this is fairly reasonable.  Even though I am not a hunter, I do respect a hunter's rights to bear arms and to be able to enjoy hunting and putting food on their families' tables.  Not for me, but that is my choice.  I also respect that he does not drink alcohol nor smoke marijuana or take drugs...his personality would seem to indicate otherwise.  :)  That being said, many of his political views do make me cringe.
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:


I have two guilty pleasure songs. The first one is:
 
 
 
The second one is:
 
 

Osmonds would be the guilty one here. 

That Nik video isn't playing here in the U.S. I definitely remember the song. Would this be a fair replacement (it's the 'extended' version):

EDIT: Replacing the extended one once it was pointed out that it isn't as good.




woooo hoooo...

mark me up for some of that Osmonds sh*t man...  where was Marie on that... lead guitar??? LOL Needless to say.. never heard that side of the Osmonds before.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Being a fellow Michigander, I used to think of him as "Uncle Ted".  He used to host a local morning radio show here to which I used to listen.  Although I am not a hunter, I respect his stance on hunting. As wacko as it sounds he did/does believe that the annual hunting is "a good thing" for the local deer populations to prevent them from overpopulation and dying of starvation in the winters as there is less competition for the limited food and more disease with more deer.  I think that this is fairly reasonable.  Even though I am not a hunter, I do respect a hunter's rights to bear arms and to be able to enjoy hunting and putting food on their families' tables.  Not for me, but that is my choice.  I also respect that he does not drink alcohol nor smoke marijuana or take drugs...his personality would seem to indicate otherwise.  :)  That being said, many of his political views do make me cringe.

amen to that... I did dig that it seemed every time I turned on a rock station when living up there you got a heavy heavy dose of either him or Bob.. good stuff.. deep cuts and the like. I dug it.  Needless to say .. musically.. Nugent does sort of rule and few are better for sack and pillage inducement.

and yes. .there is some rhyme and reason to some of what he believes (hunting and guns) which is sadly drowned out by the batsh*t crazy political stuff..


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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

and while I am at it, here's the German guy with Mendocino for the States.



In checking out a few seconds of videos of this, it's quite amazing that over the 40+ years he's been singing that song, he seems to perform and use the same moves in every video, with the hip swing, and that up and down with the right arm. Every time.

*spits beer on monitor* LOL  No wonder Christian got permanently scarred ....
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Scarred enough to let mathman do my work and look for another video... Dead
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People seem to going amok over this thread: approximately 80 per cents of the notification mails I got from Progarchives recently were related to it.


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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Scarred enough to let mathman do my work and look for another video... Dead

yeah...  but the short shorts though nearly saved it if not such a fan of the original
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Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

People seem to going amok over this thread: approximately 80 per cents of the notification mails I got from Progarchives recently were related to it.

only 80%
 

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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:


You ain't seen nothing yet... This one too was number one for a long time when it was released. The singer, BTW, is Tyrone Power's daughter:



*spits beer on monitor*
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

the Lana Del Rey song is my nomination. 

and likely my #1  vote...Thumbs Up That was really good
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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

I have one more alternative. 



Post-make up Kiss, repetitive lyrics, cheesy band surrounded by fire video. I know.

at least that had a good riff... and this one..had nothing but... ummm..


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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:


You ain't seen nothing yet... This one too was number one for a long time when it was released. The singer, BTW, is Tyrone Power's daughter:



*spits beer on monitor*
  LOL, Raff! (I can't find the original through all of these, so commented here, sorry!).
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

 
" and "Tess."  I've not been to a movie theatre since early 2014, and haven't caught many films other ways since, but I was intrigued by the idea of that one.  Perhaps will get it on Netflix, when I move into the "new" house (new home on friend's property, still needs kitchen, so staying in the original house there now).  Sharon Tate is the other connection, she was from San Pedro/Palos Verdes (where I grew up).  First husband's (and incidentally, late husband's as well) musical partner's brother, dated Sharon Tate when they were in high school together.  Such a beautiful woman, such a horrible end to her life.



That is another interesting connection. And yes, it's so tragic. I even had to stop with Twin Peaks early on with the discovery of Laura's body (as a father with a teenage daughter, some of that was very hard to take). A young promising life lost is hard to take, even for me in fiction.

Some more actively violent scenes in film (or tv), I do have a bit of trouble with, but if the remainder is worth it, will make it through (thinking of "A Clockword Orange,"  for instance.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Being a fellow Michigander, I used to think of him as "Uncle Ted".  He used to host a local morning radio show here to which I used to listen.  Although I am not a hunter, I respect his stance on hunting. As wacko as it sounds he did/does believe that the annual hunting is "a good thing" for the local deer populations to prevent them from overpopulation and dying of starvation in the winters as there is less competition for the limited food and more disease with more deer.  I think that this is fairly reasonable.  Even though I am not a hunter, I do respect a hunter's rights to bear arms and to be able to enjoy hunting and putting food on their families' tables.  Not for me, but that is my choice.  I also respect that he does not drink alcohol nor smoke marijuana or take drugs...his personality would seem to indicate otherwise.  :)  That being said, many of his political views do make me cringe.
  

It's more his politics to me and some of the more overt gun worship.  I do believe that there is a place for hunting (culling is important, too large of herds of deer can be very detrimental), especially if you eat what you kill.  Trophy hunting, canned hunts, I cannot tolerate.  I also live in the country, where most people have guns (and second husband was an exhibition shooter #2 in all of Europe, during the Vietnam era, he couldn't take the shots to go to the jungle, allergic to egg sera), so I do know how to shoot, as he taught me, once I knew he would never be comfortable if he couldn't have them, many vets have this inclination, so I understand and respect that.  Imperative if there are weapons in the house that you know how to use them.
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yeah...  the song was bad enough... but the dancing chicks...  now that was cringe worthy for brought back a really bad memory as I was watching that...

remember a buddy and me strolled into this bar looking for some action... and the bartender had their back to us as we saddled up to the bar.. and let me tell you. That bartender had long hair to die for.. ending. yep.. right above their absolutely killer ass in tight blue jeans... I nudged my buddy.. and whispered to him.. dude.. check out the ass on that bartender..  I'd hit that in a heartbeat.

and then the bartender turned around... and she had a beard and a big smile as he said in a deep voice.. I work hard to have an ass like this.. what can I get you guys..

I never lived that one down...

so it was with mixed feelings.. and not wanting to look too closely at the chicks.. that I admired the drop dead legs those 'chicks' had. The one on the far left especially... LOL


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