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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 20:25
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

An eye for an eye....
 
Bin Laden was never going to be captured - who was the specific person who shot him?? - he should be questioned.... or become a celebrity?

I think mark wahlberg shot him or something.



    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 20:33
Originally posted by The Monodrone The Monodrone wrote:


Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

An eye for an eye....
 

Bin Laden was never going to be captured - who was the specific person who shot him?? - he should be questioned.... or become a celebrity?

I think mark wahlberg shot him or something.
I think Stanley Kubrick shot him before he died...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 20:43
Hey Monodrone - check out the most puzzling films poll here - lots of Kubrick discussions you might be interested in!
 
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Bloomberg had some interesting things to say
 
The people of NYC are being interviewed now on TV here!
 
One said she would not be staisfied until she saw Bin Laden hanging from the highest tree.
 
Some of the siblings of victims are saying it is a sense of relief.
 
Is that the feelings of people here - relief?
 
The threat is far from over. But now what is next? Bin Laden was the figurehead, who is the leader now? Al Zawahiri? Saif Al-Adel? El Shukruumah?
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:00
Now they are complaining about the fact that Bin Laden was given a (somewhat) decent burial at sea after washing him and wrapping him. "Our victims at 9/11 were't given the chance for a funeral". Oh my... I would have said instead that our acting somewhat decent (though with geopolitical intentions too of course) is what sets us apart from terrorists....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:02
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Just as hope started fading,
Flashes signal an impending fate,
Fate that shifts uneasiness temporarily,
And it comes not a moment too late,
 
Although deep down we know it's far from over,
The marionette's been hung by his puppet strings,
Although no fat ladies make their way to the stage,
A bluebird does cheerfully sing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:04
If he had been dealt with him early on after the attacks instead of these a****les using  it as pretext to invade Iraq, things would have turned out a better.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:06
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If he had been dealt with him early on after the attacks instead of these a****les using  it as pretext to invade Iraq, things would have turned out a better.
 
Oh yes, damn Clinton for not wanting to start a war unless we had to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:13
They are suggesting Bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield when the US invaded his hideout. This is as barbaric as he would get. BL - A real waste of oxygen.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 21:15
Yeah Slarti. We were close early on in Afghanistan but missed the chance.

His death came by gathering intel, covert ops, and this operation was kind of outside the rest of the military and went on Obama's command.

So Iraq really looks worth the time and money and heartache now! Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 22:16
I'm personally glad he is dead. I'm not celebrating, but I know it is a bit of closure for the family of a college friend who died in the WTC. And closure is good, psychologically speaking, no matter how ephemeral or quixotic that closure may be.
 
They should now close down operations in Iraq (which was a patently ridiculous operation in the first place) and in Afghanistan, because our presence there serves no further purpose. The Iraqis and Afghanis will never accept western democracy, no matter how long we stay there. As soon as we leave, they will revert to medieval Muslim enclaves (after, of course, a bloody civil war in Iraq that will have the Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds shooting at each other). The money wasted in those countries would be better served here at home.
 
I've already been to two funerals for soldiers who died in Iraq, and have another friend who is crippled for life from injuries sustained in Afghanistan. There is no need for any more to come back maimed or in body bags.
 
Bin Laden's death is a good start. al-Zawahiri next. Keep killing the leaders. Keep the pressure on. They're the ones that brainwash young men and women into strapping bombs to themselves, while they hide smug in their bunkers, shielded by women and children.
 
One last thing, how is it that Pakistan should miss bin Laden's presence only minutes from downtown Islamabad, their capital? Is the presence of a newly-built and heavily-guarded palatial compound such an everyday occurence as to escape notice? Something to think about.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 22:28
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If he had been dealt with him early on after the attacks instead of these a****les using  it as pretext to invade Iraq, things would have turned out a better.
Oh yes, damn Clinton for not wanting to start a war unless we had to.

actually I'm guessing Slarti is a Clinton supporter - him being a big JFK fan - and simply meant it would've been nice if we'd gotten to him earlier




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 22:32
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

If he had been dealt with him early on after the attacks instead of these a****les using  it as pretext to invade Iraq, things would have turned out a better.
Oh yes, damn Clinton for not wanting to start a war unless we had to.

actually I'm guessing Slarti is a Clinton supporter - him being a big JFK fan - and simply meant it would've been nice if we'd gotten to him earlier




 
Ah yes, I jumped on that a little too much without much backing. My bad, Slart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 23:45
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:


One last thing, how is it that Pakistan should miss bin Laden's presence only minutes from downtown Islamabad, their capital? Is the presence of a newly-built and heavily-guarded palatial compound such an everyday occurence as to escape notice? Something to think about.
Not only that but they're saying this compound was 100 yards from an important military complex or something... The Pakistani government always knew probably, and that's why the operation was conducted without their participation or knowledge...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2011 at 23:58
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:


One last thing, how is it that Pakistan should miss bin Laden's presence only minutes from downtown Islamabad, their capital? Is the presence of a newly-built and heavily-guarded palatial compound such an everyday occurence as to escape notice? Something to think about.
Not only that but they're saying this compound was 100 yards from an important military complex or something... The Pakistani government always knew probably, and that's why the operation was conducted without their participation or knowledge...
 
Yes, the more I read up on it, the more disconcerting it gets. Some ally in the "war on terror". Rather like inviting Adolf Eichmann to a Jewish seder.
 
P.S. And another thing, why is it that zealots and nutbags of every stripe have to have a "compound"? Never a cottage or a bungalow or a condo. Always a compound.


Edited by The Dark Elf - May 03 2011 at 00:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 00:19
Yeah, don't wanna jump to conclusions so soon but:

Bin Laden was in this giant super secured facility, in an affluent town with a military school and lots of military personnel living there?
Not sure how many in the government/military knew where he was but it'd be VERY naive to think no one knew....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 00:49

You would be suprised as to how easy it is to go under grown and escape radars, and it is an old saying that describes it  (abruptly like this)  the best way to stay invicable is to be where no one will think twise where to look at. every one though OH HE IS IN DA MOUNTAINS when he actualy was in Islamabad Angry (all day long)

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 02:28
They have pictures and videos of Bin Laden's body, as well as his burial at sea. Hope it all gets released immediately.
Only saw a few second clip on the news of them inside the facility. It needs to be released.

Also glad to hear more info trickling out, I also hope this all is released ASAP. At least as much as the government is willing since they obviously won't release it all.

Watching MSNBC is great. The liberal network, which of course was harshly opposed to use of torture, is now nonchalantly talking about "enhanced interrogations" not being supportive but saying "eh well guess it ended up working out in the end". Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 02:49
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:


Watching MSNBC is great. The liberal network, which of course was harshly opposed to use of torture, is now nonchalantly talking about "enhanced interrogations" not being supportive but saying "eh well guess it ended up working out in the end". Cry


That is because the so-called "liberal bias" in American media is a myth, fabricated by conservative bank-rollers like the Koch Brothers and conservative think-tanks like the Heritage Foundation.  True liberalism is not consistently relayed by mainstream corporate media channels, who know all too well that the viewing audience does not regularly buy into such philosophy.  Instead, a watered-down leftist centrism designed to allow for "both sides" of the issue  is used, in place of strict leftist rhetoric.  Bill Maher once gave a very accurate assessment of the situation in one interview, arguing that the democrats are the centrists, the republicans are the right wing sector, and the tea party the extremist right wing loons of American politics.  There are no true die-hard liberals running the government now, nor have there been for decades.  Otherwise, we would have all started driving electric cars years ago by government mandate as a result of signing the Kyoto Protocol (instead of rehashing pointless debates over the validity of Roe vs. Wade, and other neo-conservative gimmick issues).      
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 02:55
100% agreed Alex

But that was all a bit more than I was expecting, just really wanted to take a jab at how horrible news networks are LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2011 at 03:14
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

They are suggesting Bin Laden used one of his wives as a human shield when the US invaded his hideout. This is as barbaric as he would get. BL - A real waste of oxygen.


They have changed that part of the story. Personally I never believed in it.

http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/World/Story/STIStory_664114.html
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