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    Posted: June 01 2013 at 00:48
What Prog Rock songs out there do you think get too much praise but you think are not that great
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 01:31
Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 05:57
Gawd this must have done to death by now? (overrated Prog Threads)Wink

Never was remotely moved in any shape or form by:

Echoes (Pink Floyd)
Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull)
Interstellar Overdrive (Pink Floyd)
The Battle of Epping Forest (Genesis)
A Saucerful of Secrets (Pink Floyd)
Formentera Lady (King Crimson)
Arrow (VDGG)
Elektrolurch Mutation (Guru Guru)
Lizard (King Crimson) 

the list goes on.....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:17
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.

Oh I disagree. Supper's Reay is far better that Watcher and CTTE is miles better tha Khatru.

And in what way is this a blog?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:58
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth.

Really? You think Siberian Khatru (the song where the refrain is repeated over 30 times) is as good as Close to the Edge?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 07:18
i have to admit. the refrain in siberian khatru is pretty kick ass

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:32
I suspect most Yes fans are fond of Awaken from Going For the One  and Wakeman says it's his favorite but I always thought it was just ok compared to their earlier classic  material.
I also think ELP's Karn Evil 9 is overrated ...to me the lyrics and music are a bit 'cheesy' at times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:57
Why is this in Prog Blogs? LOL

TAAB.. among others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 09:04
^Exactly what I was thinkingLOL

Also IQ - Harvest of Souls
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 10:03
Floyd (without Syd)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 10:14
Floyd (with Syd)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 11:19
I don't think any song, track, album or band is overrated. I think they are rated just as they should be.
 
It's just that anyone who doesn't like what I like and likes what I don't like has incredibly bad taste that's all. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 11:41

I'm gonna have too much fun with this...

Floyd (with or without Syd), except for the second half of The Wall

The whole Trilogy album by ELP

Tom Sawyer by Rush

The CTTE and Fragile albums by Yes

The Battle of Epping Forest by Genesis

The Court of the Crimson King album by KC

Everything ever by Jethro Tull minus A Passion Play

Basically any older group's stuff I have a hard time understanding why they get the praise they do. Maybe it's over-romanticizing prog "glory days" or something. And You And I will always and forever be a bland song to me, but some people seem to go crazy over it. There's really nothing all that great about it, at least in my opinion. No emotion comes across to me, and it's not particularly musically interesting.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 12:05
^ TBoEF is not all that highly regarded, from what I can tell.

I agree with "Supper's Ready".  It is a good song, no doubt, but I've always found it to be a bit too "slice and dice" (seemingly unrelated songs spliced together).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 12:06
Everything prog is highly overrated at PA, LOL
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:06
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

^ TBoEF is not all that highly regarded, from what I can tell.

I never thought so either til recently. I think I just got it in my head that it was after seeing people regard it as an essential track on SEBTP as opposed to I Know What I Like or More Fool Me, when I always thought of it on par with those lesser tracks, just longer and more varied.

I had the same reaction when I saw an earlier post about VDGG's Arrow being overrated, as I never perceived it to be that hyped. But then I always thought of it as wildly underrated (it's one of my absolute favorite songs). Won't argue with subjectivity of course.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:22
I won't be making any friends here, but IMHO's...

1) Everything by the Annie Haslam fronted Renaissance (except "Can You Understand?")
2) The 1st 2 sickening-sappy Genesis love songs "Your Own Special Way" and "Follow You Follow Me"
3) "Onward" by Yes (another awful sappy prog love song)
4) "Pirates" and "Fanfare for the Common Man" (I'd feel differently if Keith had used his trusty Hammond-Moog combo instead of that horrible Yamaha GX1)
5) "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" and "More Fool Me" (2 big wastes of time on SEbtP)
6) "The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" and "Elephant Talk" (Adrian Belew trying way too hard to be lyrically weird but coming off like a 2nd rate David Byrne)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:08
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

I won't be making any friends here, but IMHO's...

5) "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" and "More Fool Me" (2 big wastes of time on SEbtP)
6) "The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" and "Elephant Talk" (Adrian Belew trying way too hard to be lyrically weird but coming off like a 2nd rate David Byrne)

These two statements alone actually made you a friend here Clap

Never cared for Adrian Belew in the slightest myself.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:13
^He's pretty nifty on this though:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:26
darkside of the moon and thick as a brick are TOO overrated!
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