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Topic: Overrated Prog Songs
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Subject: Overrated Prog Songs
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 00:48
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What Prog Rock songs out there do you think get too much praise but you think are not that great
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 01:31
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Many lengthy 'classics' of the 70s aren't especially better than the other works of the same bands. But they're so often hailed as being all-time top ten material by fans. How much of that worship is merely due to extra minutes? Supper's Ready isn't vastly better than Watcher Of The Skies, it's just longer (which gives it more time to show off, I suppose). Close To The Edge isn't vastly better than Siberian Khatru, it's just longer. And so froth. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 05:57
Gawd this must have done to death by now? (overrated Prog Threads) Never was remotely moved in any shape or form by: Echoes (Pink Floyd) Thick as a Brick (Jethro Tull) Interstellar Overdrive (Pink Floyd) The Battle of Epping Forest (Genesis) A Saucerful of Secrets (Pink Floyd) Formentera Lady (King Crimson) Arrow (VDGG) Elektrolurch Mutation (Guru Guru) Lizard (King Crimson) the list goes on..... ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:17
Oh I disagree. Supper's Reay is far better that Watcher and CTTE is miles better tha Khatru. And in what way is this a blog? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Stool Man wrote:Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 06:58
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Posted By: arcane-beautiful
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 07:18
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i have to admit. the refrain in siberian khatru is pretty kick ass |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:32
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I suspect most Yes fans are fond of Awaken from Going For the One and Wakeman says it's his favorite but I always thought it was just ok compared to their earlier classic material. I also think ELP's Karn Evil 9 is overrated ...to me the lyrics and music are a bit 'cheesy' at times. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 08:57
Why is this in Prog Blogs?  TAAB.. among others. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 09:04
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^Exactly what I was thinking Also IQ - Harvest of Souls ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 10:03
| Floyd (without Syd) |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 10:14
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Floyd (with Syd)
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 11:19
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I don't think any song, track, album or band is overrated. I think they are rated just as they should be.
It's just that anyone who doesn't like what I like and likes what I don't like has incredibly bad taste that's all.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 11:41
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I'm gonna have too much fun with this... Floyd (with or without Syd), except for the second half of The Wall The whole Trilogy album by ELP Tom Sawyer by Rush The CTTE and Fragile albums by Yes The Battle of Epping Forest by Genesis The Court of the Crimson King album by KC Everything ever by Jethro Tull minus A Passion Play Basically any older group's stuff I have a hard time understanding why they get the praise they do. Maybe it's over-romanticizing prog "glory days" or something. And You And I will always and forever be a bland song to me, but some people seem to go crazy over it. There's really nothing all that great about it, at least in my opinion. No emotion comes across to me, and it's not particularly musically interesting. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 12:05
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^ TBoEF is not all that highly regarded, from what I can tell. I agree with "Supper's Ready". It is a good song, no doubt, but I've always found it to be a bit too "slice and dice" (seemingly unrelated songs spliced together). ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 12:06
Everything prog is highly overrated at PA,  ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:06
I never thought so either til recently. I think I just got it in my head that it was after seeing people regard it as an essential track on SEBTP as opposed to I Know What I Like or More Fool Me, when I always thought of it on par with those lesser tracks, just longer and more varied. I had the same reaction when I saw an earlier post about VDGG's Arrow being overrated, as I never perceived it to be that hyped. But then I always thought of it as wildly underrated (it's one of my absolute favorite songs). Won't argue with subjectivity of course. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 16:22
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I won't be making any friends here, but IMHO's... 2) The 1st 2 sickening-sappy Genesis love songs "Your Own Special Way" and "Follow You Follow Me" 3) "Onward" by Yes (another awful sappy prog love song) 4) "Pirates" and "Fanfare for the Common Man" (I'd feel differently if Keith had used his trusty Hammond-Moog combo instead of that horrible Yamaha GX1) 5) "I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)" and "More Fool Me" (2 big wastes of time on SEbtP) 6) "The World's My Oyster Soup Kitchen Floor Wax Museum" and "Elephant Talk" (Adrian Belew trying way too hard to be lyrically weird but coming off like a 2nd rate David Byrne)
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:08
These two statements alone actually made you a friend here Never cared for Adrian Belew in the slightest myself. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:13
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^He's pretty nifty on this though: ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:26
| darkside of the moon and thick as a brick are TOO overrated! |
Posted By: Zenbadger
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:42
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Most of Rush's "prog" repertoire Genesis - I know what I like (in your wardrobe) The Battle Of Epping Forest is great!!! I dont know why thats been mentioned...
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Posted By: Second Life Syndrome
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 17:53
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>Pull Me Under from Dream Theater (although it is the song that introduced me to prog) >Tom Sawyer/Working Man/Spirit of the Radio by Rush >Yes in general
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 18:25
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I can think of ones I don't like, but I really use the word "overrated" and "underrated" sparingly. I guess it's fun to say, but I don't really believe my opinion carries any extra weight with respect to what public opinion is or should be. But i know we're just having fun here, so I'll say the song In the Court of the Crimson King is overrated. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 18:27
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And the Hemispheres suite by Rush. I love Rush, but I can't get behind that one. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 18:29
| I feel, as good as they are, 'Close To The Edge' and 'Dark Side Of The Moon' are highly over-rated. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 18:44
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This thread is overrated/ ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 18:49
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Musical box-it's barely even passable as goodish
Suppers ready-has some good moments Firth of fifth-bit depressing Starless-intro is nice until wetton starts singing ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 21:00
Thanks. Good to hear from another dissenting Crimson fan. And to Guldbamsen, I think Belew's solo on Red Sails is the best thing he ever did. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 21:01
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I'm not sure how Wardrobe and More Fool Me are overrated when they get put down constantly here rofl, doesn't make much sense. Also Belew > Bowie in pretty much every way. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 21:54
Why all the hate for Belew ??? He's insane 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 01 2013 at 22:26
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He's brilliant. Watch some live footage of him in KC from the 80's.. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: humor4u1959
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 01:27
| Every single song by Rush. God, their music stinks! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 02:55
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I like these but they are not amazing as people would like to believe Tarkus ( Production work stands out most and conceptually/lyrically its nonsense) Awaken ( much ado about nothing) Cinema Show (just seems to run out of legs) Grendel ( ''Apocalypse in 4-4'') and any epic where Mellotron is the main instrument ( ie Watcher Of The Skies , In The Court Of The Crimson King etc)
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 03:21
Yes (see what I did there?) ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 05:34
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 08:21
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Adrian Belew is the bee's knees. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 10:37
You're trying too hard. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 10:53
He's a talented musician but I don't really care for the direction KC took with him at the front and that might not be due completely to him . ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: June 02 2013 at 12:22
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Overrated commercially or overrated among the prog community? Tom Sawyer is overrated commercially but prog fans and a good chunk of Rush fans (from what I've seen) aren't too keen on it (except maybe the drumming). Can't think of any that are overrated in the prog community, just stuff I don't enjoy as much as other things. (Like Zeuhl. Tried a few Magma albums but couldn't get into it. I don't consider it overrated simply because it doesn't appeal to me, though.)
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 01:44
I struggle with the idea that a good chunk of Rush fans aren't keen on Tom Sawyer. To me that track is perfect in every way. talk about being spoilt
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 03:34
| Not another "overrated" thread/poll. [cough, cough, hard cough, hard cough] |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 06:20
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 06:31
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I don't like the term over-rated, but one band that everyone seems to think are the bees knees, who do little for me is TMV. I have two of their albums, and aside from a few good songs, it seems to their intention is to choose as any sounds as they can, that get on my nerves. FTM is marred by long stretches of mind numbing noise. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 06:34
Tom Sawyer would be up there among my favourite Rush songs. I probably like it more these days than I did when I first discovered the band. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 10:04
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I'll catch heat for this, but just about anything by Nektar. To me Nektar is what you get when you combine three parts Yes, Genesis, and Camel in a blender, throw in a couple tablespoons of Pink Floyd, add a couple pinches of Hawkwind and King Crimson, and blend till smooth. I know a lot of people like Nektar, but I've never been able to get into them. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 10:37
I love Nektar's "Recycled" but their other albums sound like a different band to me. I like "Desolation Valley" off "A Tab in the Ocean" but the "Recycled" album just blows away any other Nektar I've heard. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 10:41
Those growling Oberheim synths, tight drumming, great overall sound, and an out of the box solo from Alex make it one of my favourite Rush songs...certainly in my top 5. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 10:46
One more Tom Sawyer fan here. Maybe it's not epic or whatever, but it kicks ass. Any song/album/band that you call underrated or overrated, there's always going to be somebody who hates it or really likes it, as applicable. |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 11:10
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"Tom Sawyer" is fantastic, but I love "Limelight" even more. From the opening riff to Alex's emotive solo, it's one of the songs that embodies everything I like about Rush. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: June 03 2013 at 15:29
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Well... that's news to me.
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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 05:35
| No song is overrated. What is overrated are statements from individuals who believe a song is overrated. So there! |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 05:59
There's No-one Quite Like Grandma by The St Winifred School Choir deserves to be the Most Aspirational song of all musicians everywhere.
Want me to stop yet?  ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 06:17
Oh no, carry on. When you get to a song that is truely overrated then do please stop.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: hobocamp
Date Posted: June 04 2013 at 09:33
+1 minus Baker St. Muse |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: June 05 2013 at 01:56
To quote from Ho. J Simpson: " Hey if you don't like it, go to Russia" To me overrated songs from certain bands are: King Crimson- In the Court of the Crimson King Pink Floyd-Echoes ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 12:47
The refrain isn't really repeated all that much. In full it's sung just twice, and if you count the part where they sing tons of two-syllable words you have three. And it's not like "Close to the Edge" is any less repetitive. As for prog classics I don't like (or like much less than general consensus), the number one spot is certainly held by "Supper's Ready" and most of the Foxtrot album. Pawn Hearts is probably second. Wind & Wuthering and Lizard are two albums that aren't really acclaimed outside of this website, but I'm not fond of them anyway. |
Posted By: OberheimRush
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 13:41
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Overrated? Maybe. But a lot of these are overplayed more than anything. Dark Side of The Moon is a fantastic album, and as far as I know the only overplayed songs are Time and Money which still are great (dem guitar solos). If there's any Pink Floyd song that's overrated, in my opinion its Comfortably Numb (I'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for that one lol). Moving Pictures is another excellent album, but pretty much the entire first side is overplayed, particularly Tom Sawyer and Limelight. That being said, they're still awesome songs. Lucky Man and Karn Evil 9 (First Impression Part 2) I think are all very overrated. From the Beginning is kind of overplayed but it's a good song. Fanfare for the common is extremely overrated. (Someone said earlier it was because of Keith using the Yamaha GX1. I agree, that thing sounds cheesy as all hell) I don't really find any Yes or Genesis stuff overrated/overplayed (maybe Watcher of the Skies a little bit). Roundabout is overplayed a lot but again I really enjoy it so I don't really care (how can you not love that Bass line? The keyboard parts are great, too). |
Posted By: Artilectband
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 10:09
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I facepalm everytime I hear someone say "Pull Me Under" is the best Dream Theater song. -_- ------------- Prog recorded @ Neal Morse/Mike Portnoy's studio;produced by BTBAMs producer.Check it out and give us some feedback! Bandcamp: http://artilectband.bandcamp.com Facebook: http://facebook.com/artilect |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 10:25
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"Pull Me Under" is the best Dream Theater song... ....just kidding, it's Space-Dye Vest ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 10:35
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The only instance where I'd consider using a phrase like "overrated prog song" is perhaps when wannabe Indie bands apply the prog sticker to something that's clearly not. I'd call that overrated as a prog song. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Bozit
Date Posted: July 06 2013 at 12:02
| Journey to the centre of the earth |
Posted By: JCDenton
Date Posted: July 08 2013 at 23:54
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"Comfortably Numb" is overrated to me as a Prog track. For Classic Rock, sure, write it down as one of the greatest songs of all time, but for Prog it's got too much credit to me. "Tom Sawyer" is a song I'm tired out on, but that's not overrated. "Limelight" on the other hand......... I honestly consider the guitar solo the worst amongst the greater Rock acts.  I know I love some songs that one could describe as Prog masturbation ("Tarkus" and "Karn Evil 9") and I can definitely see why people would hate those. I love most of these comments. Even when they're talking down on my jams, they're awesome.
I love the song, but this comment is fantastic! ------------- "We have grown, but there is still much to be done. Many that live in darkness that must be shown the way, for it is the dawning of a new day." |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 09 2013 at 01:45
I didn't make that comment up ,its actually a long standing prog 'joke'. ELP will always get a lot of 'hits' on this type of thread. I think Tarkus is a tad overrated because its basically several sections stitched together but KE9 is just wonderfull to me . I don't get the resistance to that and also Pirates. Its full blown symph prog in all its glory. Only ELP could have pulled this off! (no pun intended
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Posted By: JCDenton
Date Posted: July 09 2013 at 02:00
I know it's been a long-standing joke for awhile. It's just I've usually heard it as "Apocalypse in 8/8". Saying "Apocalypse in 4/4" makes it sound really dumbed down, the reason I found that comment awesome. ------------- "We have grown, but there is still much to be done. Many that live in darkness that must be shown the way, for it is the dawning of a new day." |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 20:33
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Atom Heart Mother, is a horrible, discordant dirge of a song and yet it is widely worshipped as genius and I have been openly insulted by fans of it for saying so. Even on this site a year or so ago I was insulted purely for my review (and I am a huge fan of Pink Floyd) I was sent a private message referring to me as an 'idiot' just for disliking it and addmitting it. All you need to do is check my review on the album. It goes into the real details of why I find it overrated as hell. ------------- "Man is nothing else but that which he makes of himself" - Sartre |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:00
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:03
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Close to The Edge by YES.
Very overrated, especially the whole album as well. I know it's a biggy here, but I feel very different about this song as well as the album. My main problem with Close to the Edge is that even though the musicianship is off the charts skill wise, it just doesn't sound good. It's a cacophony at times of many instruments farting in your ear to the point where it's just musical masturbation. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 21:07
Oh come on Dean. Just pick something. Have some fun. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 10 2013 at 23:47
I know what you mean Nick, but I actually like that cacophony of sounds (and this is not the only time when they do it) I think maybe only Yes could pull it off sounding ok. But do I think it's the best prog piece? Oh No.. But Like Dean said it's only a matter of taste. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 11 2013 at 00:58
Of course. You are absolutely right. It comes down to taste and like you, I do like a good technical beat down of over the top musicianship. I feel King Crimson are the Masters at doing so. They are so good at giving everything they have all at once in a blinding speed fashion and still have it sound amazing. 21st century schizoid man is a real winner. I love how it speeds up and goes completely ape sh*t on you. I still have trouble dissecting everything that is going on when the speed freak part happens. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 11 2013 at 01:04
| ^ Yep they are the kings! |
Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: July 11 2013 at 07:20
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Pink Floyd (any song with Syd) and the wall(whole album)
ELP songs...excluding first 3 albums
gentle giant - most of their albums
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: July 11 2013 at 07:40
| RUSH from A to Z. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 16:45
Cacophony like KC ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 13:50
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Everything by Pink Floyd is overrated.
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Posted By: Memory Cube
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:15
| "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" by Frank Zappa. I was surprised when I heard that this is considered Zappa's first masterpiece song, since it was the song that ruined the album, in my opinion. |
Posted By: CKnoxW
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:47
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I tend to think 2112 (the piece) is overrated. Awesome, but overrated. Camel, as a band, always hit me as overrated as well. I've not listened to an enormous amount of their works, but Mirage is always featured on peoples favorite prog albums/songs lists but it just sounds like nothing but recycled ideas to me. And people that say Floyd +Syd is, I couldn't agree more. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 17:57
I think it's considered his first masterpiece for a couple reasons. First, the anti-corruption American political and business lyrical themes were quite radical as just about everyone else in 1967 was singing hippy dippy love songs. Second, musically it's a fascinating piece with FZ's atonal/serial compositions and cut-and-splice tape loops shoved up against American music hall and standard rock themes. The collection of so many different styles and sections in 1 song laid the blueprint for much of his later work. Unfortunately, the recording sounds primitive compared to today's standards...but hey, anytime you get to hear Jimmy Carl Black sing it's a good day Have you heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion"? "TV dinner by the pool, I'm so glad I finished school. Life is such a ball I run the world from city hall" - FZ ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Memory Cube
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:00
| I see what you mean, but this song just really isn't my cup of grey herbal tea. No, I haven't heard the live version on "Tinseltown Rebellion". |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:13
Yeah, fun. I remember fun. Then I heard a Saviour Machine album.
...was that the kind of thing you had in mind?
Pah! Saying things are overrated is overrated. Just because you don't like something it does not mean it is overrated, it just means you have very poor taste in music. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 21:08
I actually don't really like anything by Pink Floyd. When speaking of 70's progressive rock my favorite is Camel by far. Other greats are Genesis, Yes, Eloy, Gentle Giant, and King Crimson. Considering Pink Floyd are more well known than these excellent groups is why I consider them to be highly overrated. 
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Posted By: Memory Cube
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 21:20
| I agree. Pink Floyd aren't as great as Tangerine Dream. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 03:01
------------- What? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 07:19
There's plenty of that about. Interesting he cites Floyd as overrated but considers Eloy as one of the "greats".
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Posted By: pfloyd
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 10:56
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I don't believe in "overrated" ------------- check out my art: http://alexanderbennett33.wixsite.com/portfolio 
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Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 11:23
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Karn Evil 9 = overrated
The Three Fates = underrated But it's all opinion.... |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:04
Okay, this is a little insane that everyone gets so defensive. Actually, I find this kind a funny
I have my opinion and you have yours. 
The reason I don't like Pink Floyd very much is because their music makes me feel uninspired and bored. I don't hear anything outstanding. I tried to really give them a chance, I've listened to the full albums of Piper, Saucerful, Atom Heart, Meddle, Wish You Were Here, and Animals. 
I still can't see why their so loved. 
Eloy are really talented though, they really are the definition of Space Rock.
Their albums Dawn, Ocean, and Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes are very underrated. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:21
Those Eloy albums are not underrated, they are rated pretty much as they should be, they are under-appreciated perhaps, and overlooked maybe, but they are not great albums nor are they bad albums. ------------- What? |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:28
If you're so inclined, give the Tinseltown Rebellion version a try...I just listened to them back to back and it's night and day. The studio version is really rough around the edges and is horribly engineered. The live version is much more polished, with better musicianship and vocals...and besides, it segues into the brilliant "Peaches III" ("Let's hear it for another great Italian, Alvin Lee")... It's the age old Zappa fanatics argument, original-Mothers vs FZ-and-his-hired-hands
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Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 13:00
I get what you are saying. When I say that Pink Floyd are overrated I am not referring to the amount of people that like their music. I am mainly referring to the fact that Pink Floyd are played on are the radio far more then Camel, Yes, and King Crimson. As well as Pink Floyd has CDs selling everywhere, whether there music shops or not. Why isn't Yes and King Crimson played on the radio more, and why can't I find CDs by bands like Camel and Eloy at my local store. Pink Floyd are at the store. So apparently, I have to buy the music I like online. That is all I'm saying. Is why aren't other bands as recognized by the media like Pink Floyd |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 13:37
Dawn...4.07, Ocean...4.19 and Silent....3.98 all have a 4 star rating or damn close to it...that's not 'very underrated'.
As far as Floyd.....I agree that some of their lp's are a bit overrated when compared to many other bands but that's a matter of taste...and while about half of their better known ones did get over 4 stars, the other half got under 4 stars.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 13:41
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Overrated? Well, let's see...there was that bestselling album about a big "Wall"... ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 13:49
Isn't being played on the radio and being a stocked in record store (really? you have record stores still? Lucky you.) exactly the same as being liked by more people, aren't they two of the measures of popularity (along with record sales and concert ticket sales (and appearances on The Late Show))?
Why do we need to begrudge an artist for becoming popular? that's so hipster it's uncool and therefore unhip.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 13:51
I think Pink Floyd are more likely to appear on radio and have their albums much easier to find because a greater amount of people like their music. If "Starless and Bible Black" had stayed on the billboard top 100 for 20 years (or whatever like DSOTM) we'd hear The Great Deceiver on rock radio instead of Comfortably Numb. For me, Pink Floyd more than any other prog band has straddled the line between being prog and massive mainstream rock success. I don't think that makes them "overrated"...it just makes them Pink Floyd ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 14:06
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I didn't mean Eloy were underrated I meant they were less recognized than the other bands.
I don't have anything against Pink Floyd for being commercial.
I was just writing my post for what songs do I think are overrated, I wasn't expecting these replies.
I hope we can stop talking about Pink Floyd.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 14:25
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That band's music was so great when we were only 6 in the club...Now they're playing to ten thousand idiots and it's all crap. ------------- |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 14:27
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Actually, given the musical tastes of most listeners, and what goes for huge pop hits, it is remarkable that Pink Floyd is one of the biggest selling bands in history. It isn't like Floyd's music was incredibly accessible or simplistic, or their lyrics were uplifting, cute or melodic love songs (in fact, I can't think of one love song from Meddle until The Final Cut, and it's not like they had a plethora of #1 singles -- it was their albums that were their selling point). Waters' lyrics got increasingly bitter as time went on, and an album like Animals is bristling with animosity. Perhaps it has more to do with when a band hits its stride, as Floyd did in the 70s, when the hippie dream made way for antagonism and apathy, and Floyd changed from 60s trippy psychedelia to more dark, psychological material . Which is why many rock fans took to Sabbath's dark music at that time, and then punk nihilism attacked corporate rock later in the 70s. Bah, I'm just rabbiting on because I've had too much coffee today. Starbucks. High caffeine content. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 14:49
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Apparently, we can't...
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 15:07
Apparently, you like to spout your opinions, and then wish to end the conversation without giving others the same opportunity. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Mythical Mike
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 15:18
What's your point...
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