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DavetheSlave
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Topic: Death Metal Posted: December 29 2008 at 17:32 |
I've watched - and I mean personally watched!!! People die from many things!!!! There's nothing attractive about it at all!!!!!! I'[ve heard Rush sing about a Red Barchetta/ Why would I want to hear a Band sing about Death.??? I know it more intimately than most and there's nothing about it that I would want to put to music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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crimson87
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 17:37 |
Death is an issue that always intrigued us
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 17:40 |
I've lived in probably the most violent country on earth. I know death intimately!!! There's nothing to sing about there - believe me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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WinterLight
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 17:41 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Why would I want to hear a Band sing about Death?
I can't answer the question as you've phrased it. However, writing about death is not necessarily morbid; quite the contrary, in fact, for is it not a central theme of psychology, philosophy, and even theology? Such an important event in human life surely merits discussion.
I know it more intimately than most and there's nothing about it that I would want to put to music!
To each his own, but you're in disagreement with the many composers of liturgical requiems.
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 17:48 |
Hi WinterLight - been there, done it, watched it, cauysed it etc etc!!! Nothin beautiful or mysteryfilled about it. Nothin at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Speak to me. Anyone want to dispute my credibility in South Africa??????? Nothin to write no amazing songs about - believe that!!!!!!!! Death is ugly and it always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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el böthy
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 18:30 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Hi WinterLight - been there, done it, watched it, cauysed it etc etc!!! Nothin beautiful or mysteryfilled about it. Nothin at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Speak to me. Anyone want to dispute my credibility in South Africa??????? Nothin to write no amazing songs about - believe that!!!!!!!! Death is ugly and it always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Nobody questions how much horror you have seen. But as WinterLight said, to each his own. It´s in you to make the choice to listen to it or not, not to say if the artist can or can´t talk about it. Personally, I don´t like it much when people sing about christianity... so I just don´t listen to it.
This makes me remember an interview with James Hetfield where he explains why the title of the album "Death magnetic" and he sais something like "death is the ultimate tabu, nobody wants to talk about it, it´s the big elefant in the room bla bla bla...". What an idiot, death is pretty much the topic of 90% of all metal . God!
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crimson87
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 18:35 |
metal can get so cliched sometimes
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DavetheSlave
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 18:37 |
Hey El Bothy - you ever watched death???? I have and there's nothing worth writing a song about!!!!!!!!!!! People come and people go! Death aint no mystery and nore is it poetic!!! Death is a reality of life and believe me, it is an ugly senseless reality!!! Maybe that's why Death Metal holds nothing at all for me!!!! Life's emotion however holds a lot for me - hence my lov e of Duke (Genesis)
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 19:02 |
crimson87 wrote:
metal can get so cliched sometimes |
ENOUGH. Seriously, you've said this exact sentence, or one along very similar lines, in so many threads, just for the sake of pissing people off/inciting angry responses. It's constantly repeating those same kind of extremely irritating comments that give forum boards such as this a bad name. We know how you feel about metal, okay, but you don't need to shove it down every metal fan's throat in every second thread that somehow relates to metal. Let it rest man, please, it's seriously getting on my nerves and other people's too, it's not doing good for anyone.
Edited by HughesJB4 - December 29 2008 at 19:03
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Philéas
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 19:34 |
Wrong place for this thread. Also, there are clichés in all genres, not just metal.
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Plankowner
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 20:59 |
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Edited by Plankowner - December 29 2008 at 21:09
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Plankowner
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 21:01 |
But Dave you haven't heard all these bands yet...
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Plankowner
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 21:04 |
Edited by Plankowner - December 29 2008 at 21:07
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Dean
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 21:54 |
I held my mother's hand when she died - the second most moving moment of my life, only watching my daughter being born touched me more. I wish I had been there when my dad passed away 18 years ago, I wasn't, that single fact still hurts me to this day.
Death Metal is just music, lyrics are just words. Move on Dave. Nothing to see here.
Edited by Dean - December 29 2008 at 21:55
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Dim
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Posted: December 29 2008 at 22:32 |
A couple questions... Who listens to death metal for the lyrical content? Who really cares what they mean, we just want to hear the guy growl? How can you even understand the lyrics to begin with?
I'll admit, I dont like most Death metal, but I love extreme vocals, and almost every kind of metal that goes with them. Death metal is a style of music, if it were defined it's lyrical content, Almost all of metal would be diefined as death metal. Music is a form of MUSIC!
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 02:12 |
But you listen to Korn...?
Bah, forget it, you're not worth my time. And I value my time very lowly!
Edited by Henry Plainview - December 30 2008 at 02:13
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 02:16 |
Dim wrote:
A couple questions... Who listens to death metal for the lyrical content? Who really cares what they mean, we just want to hear the guy growl? How can you even understand the lyrics to begin with?
I'll admit, I dont like most Death metal, but I love extreme vocals, and almost every kind of metal that goes with them. Death metal is a style of music, if it were defined it's lyrical content, Almost all of metal would be diefined as death metal. Music is a form of MUSIC! |
Nail, meet the hammer! The classification death metal is in itself flawed because death metal lyrics are no longer rigidly restricted to the theme of death. It's just the way some black metal doesn't deal with Satan or anti-Christ agendas. Death metal, like black metal, stands for a particular style of music which is quite easily identifiable though people struggle to differentiate extreme thrash from death metal and prog metal with growls from death metal (both are NOT the same thing!). Yes, metal genres are not named with the scientific accuracy that some prog fans may look for , because we metalheads tend to go for the riffs frequently to the exclusion of everything else, no harm in that, just a different way of looking at the music.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 02:17 |
Plankowner wrote:
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Lots of death there. i mean wow! huge amounts.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 02:21 |
Dean wrote:
I held my mother's hand when she died - the second most moving moment of my life, only watching my daughter being born touched me more. I wish I had been there when my dad passed away 18 years ago, I wasn't, that single fact still hurts me to this day.
Death Metal is just music, lyrics are just words. Move on Dave. Nothing to see here. |
There is a lot to see here that guy with the happy face. i always like seeing him and listening to him even though my personal mother died of ovarian cancer in 1970. the doctors were a bunch of crooks and should have been the inventors of death itself.
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rogerthat
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Posted: December 30 2008 at 02:24 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Hey El Bothy - you ever watched death???? I have and there's nothing worth writing a song about!!!!!!!!!!! People come and people go! Death aint no mystery and nore is it poetic!!! Death is a reality of life and believe me, it is an ugly senseless reality!!! Maybe that's why Death Metal holds nothing at all for me!!!! Life's emotion however holds a lot for me - hence my lov e of Duke (Genesis) |
It's alright if you feel so about death, but how naive to assume other people have not watched their loved ones die! Wait, didn't you ask somebody on the tech extreme thread to be "open-minded" and listen to Korn again? You are the cat's whiskers indeed! Not because you like Korn but...you get it, oh wait you don't, forget it!
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