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Yorkie X 
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 20:56 |
Idea inspired by me reading that Kansas supported Hawkwind in concert early in their career. I know who I'm voting for here without hesitation (probably my all time my favorite band ) , I think maybe this could a close poll , both bands are not absolutely huge on this site but they do both have a strong loyal following of fans  Part of an interview with Dave Brock (Hawkwind) I dug up on the net DB: We done a
tour, we used to tour with Rush in the States, well Rush were our
support band. I mean, many years ago a lot of bands, when we were
touring the States – Kansas are another band that supported us in the
States, and we really used to get on very well with them. So
everything goes full circle, you know, you rise and you fall. But if
you keep going, eventually you rise up again. I mean, you go down and
you go up, like Motorhead, right – they’ve really worked at it, and
look where it is now, so there you go. So anybody who’s in a rock
band, you’ve just got to keep going…
Edited by Yorkie X - July 30 2008 at 01:10
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E-Dub
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 20:57 |
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The boys from Topeka. No question.
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tszirmay
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:10 |
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Seeing Hawkwing live once was enough for me ! A "numbing" space voyage to say the least. The dual drumming of Simon King and Alan Powell was enough to put you in a trance for evermore.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:15 |
 E-Dub wrote:
The boys from Topeka. No question.
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Yeah, I won't vote because I only have a single Hawkwind album, but Kansas is pretty damn awesome. Not sure hearing more Hawkwind would change my mind about preferring Kansas.
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crimhead
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:36 |
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I would normally vote for Kansas but I got Stacia on the mind.
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febus
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:42 |
Tough choice but my vote will go for Hawkwind! why???
because when they are good, they are brillant and can bring you in some ''spheres'' not too many bands are able to..
second reason is Hawkwind is still producing quality music nowadays...they had a few stinkers but still came with great, great CDs in the 80s, 90 s and still now. The return of Davey in the fold with Brock and Bainbridge still guarantees fantastic music ''Take me to the Ladder'', ''Electric teppee'', ''Vortex'' ''Palace Sun'' and others still match the goodies from the 70s.
Kansas on the other hand produced great music as well, but for only a short time---74 to 78-- after that was freefall...
So analyzing their respective carreer, this is 4-5 Kansas great years versus 30 Hawkwind good to great years .
Kansas is now more or less a tribute band of its glorious past...nothing wrong with that.....but Hawkwind is still creating new stuff year after year,.....almost 40 years after their beginning.
So sorry, Yorkie and E-Dub......my vote to the Hawks!. don't beat me up  |
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Logan
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:48 |
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I definitely prefer Hawkwind *seeks shelter from Kansas' whirlwind coming to take me away*
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:58 |
E-Dub wrote:
The boys from Topeka. No question.
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Can't say it any better myself 
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 22:46 |
Now, this is a weird poll.
- Hawkwind are the kings of late Psyche and early Space music, the princes of jamming, I just can imagine them in a Pub covered by pot and cigarrette smoke with a naked lady (Stacia) dancing in front of them, a product for an elite.
- Kansas in the ther hand are one of the Prog bands with a more concrete style, they sound clearly as what they are Symphonic + Hard Rock + Country music, no jamming, just srong melodies, a product for everybody.
If I had thought in two bands that have nothing in commion, probably would had chosen this two.
Iván
BTW: My vote goes for Kansas, because I like their music, but still don't find any logic.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 30 2008 at 17:32
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Garion81
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:04 |
Kansas hands down for me BUT I have to agree with Ivan these are too very different styles. Hard to compare. I am only choosing my favorite.
The first time I saw Kansas they opened for the Kinks. Talk about a contrast in styles!
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Logan
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:15 |
Well, the logic, or reason behind the poll is:
Yorkie X wrote:
Idea inspired by me reading that Kansas supported Hawkwind in concert early in their career. |
I find that interesting because they are so different. I wonder what Kansas thought of Stacia? I don't expect in the 80's when Kerry Livgren became a born-again Christian, he would have liked to play with Stacia (I mean open for Stacia, or have Stacia open for him) with Hawkwind. But this would have been early days, of course. Hippies and country-boys together; very progressive.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:42 |
Hawkwind for me as well. Just prefer that psychedelic style of music better,and Hawkwind did it very well. Besides i always vote the same way tszirmay does. 
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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Hercules
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:22 |
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I saw Hawkwind live in the early 70s and it left me mentally scarred for life. They were bloody awful, to put it mildly. And Stacia did nothing for me, not surprisingly.
So Kansas get my vote!
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iguana
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:34 |
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apples vs. oranges once more ...
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:48 |
This is definitely apples vs. oranges.
That said, my vote goes to Hawkwind. I find most Hawkwind difficult to get into (the exceptions would Hall of the Mountain Grill and Sonic Attack) but ultimately rewarding. I find most Kansas to be utterly without merit (the exceptions would be Point of Know Return and about half of Leftoverture.)
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Roj
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:56 |
As many have said, it's really tough to compare these 2 as they are so different. My personal preference is Hawkwind, and that is no offence to Kansas.
This really would have been an interesting gig with these 2 back in the 70s. As Ivan said, about as far apart as possible in the prog spectrum. Having said that, I once saw The Cardiacs support Marillion, 2 bands that are also very different. I really liked The Cardiacs, the shame the rest of the audience ( Manchester Apollo) did not!
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 04:05 |
If I was judging on music alone, it'd be a tough call.
So I'll just judge based on the fact that I've seen Hawkwind loads of times, and they've always been mesmerising - especially at the Stonehenge free festivals back in the 1980s. Man. That was something else.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 05:36 |
I voted for Hawkwind, as I know more of their stuff and it's generally given me more pleasure than the Kansas I have heard.
That said, this is a case of chalk and cheese. The two bands cant really be compared fairly. Kansas are clearly better musicans, and less prone to half filling their albums up with farting osscilators, white noise and bits of old live bootlegs that are basically unlistenable..
I still prefer Hawkwind, though. There's no accounting for taste..  I got alot of pleasure exploring HW albums as a teenager. The pleasure of not knowing if you were going to get a masterpiece of psychedelic proto punk prog, or just a steaming pile of crap! 
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 06:59 |
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Give me strong composition any day. Kansas it is.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 07:56 |
Kansas!! 
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