Is there such a thing as "noise prog"?

What the title says. See, in the prog canon thread I contrasted the sort of experimentation usually found in prog to the one you can find in noise rock, which you could call "anti-artistic" almost... so this made me wonder, are there any bands playing a cross between prog and noise? I imagine you could actually do something interesting with that concept. 

I think it depends what you mean by "Prog". Do you include sub genres or you just reference prog as in "progressive kind of music"? Lately I've been listening to a lot of John Zorn, who is into every kind of music, specially Jazz and Avant-Garde. Some of his albums include alot of noise elements, like IAO. His record label, Tzadik, has also produced some Merzbow albums.You can also check The Boredoms and OOIOO, both from Japan. They are not "pure" noise but they include alot of noise elements.


Edited by Astrodomine - June 27 2008 at 16:12

Astrodomine wrote: I think it depends what you mean by "Prog". Do you include sub genres or you just reference prog as in "progressive kind of music"?

I do include subgenres, since I guess the other option would get a bit too nebulous.

You can also check The Boredoms and OOIOO, both from Japan. They are not "pure" noise but they include alot of noise elements.

Thanks.

Could be, the only post rock band I've heard much from is Pelican.

John Zorn is right on the mark. Good noise.

I think we have different conceptions of what 'noise rock' is in the first place. No, its not rock that just sounds unlistenable to your ears.

background info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_rock

At the bottom is a list of bands considered 'noise'. Many are on PA.


Edited by explodingjosh - June 27 2008 at 19:20

Totally off topic, but yesterday a preying mantis showed up mysteriously in our living room.  I put it outside rather than in the toaster.

Someone mentioned John Zorn, if the rest his stuff is like the new one I got and reviewed recently, he'd certainly fit.  Fred Frith has certainly done stuff that fits, particularly in a collaboration with Henry Kaiser I haven't heard in years: Who Needs Enemies? (1983)

I've added several bands to Math/Post I've described as 'noise prog'     ..really, seriously

check out comets on fire for some awesome psychadelic noise rock.

ClassicRocker wrote: Astrodomine wrote: You can also check The Boredoms and OOIOO, both from Japan. They are not "pure" noise but they include alot of noise elements. I can certainly second that statement. I just listened to the Boredoms' Pop Tatari  album, and there are many moments/"songs" that I would define as noise rock.

Cool. I might go check out this band when I decide to branch into noise.