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    Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:41
Now i know the archives have made a very good description on what prog is.

but if someone asks you on the street what is is, you ain't gona produce paragraphs of speech are you LOL

so what i want to hear are simple one sentence descriptions for "what is prog?".

my suggestion is:
rock music for intelligent people.

tell me what you think
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:43
hell no, I'm a moron and I like prog

although I don't like rock

keep winnowing that description down dearest
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:45
smart people can still like dumb music


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:51
Not as good as classical music, not as fun as regular rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:53
I really don't see how liking prog is any measure of intelligence.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:59
If somebody asked me in the street (as strange as it sounds) i'll tell him to sit down and relax and then i would start by prog history and samples from my ipod. Now, i know i won't do this with any stranger, however, there is one definition that i would use. I know it is not very accurate but it can open the door for the person who asks to search new music. this definition I´m speaking about is "music which uses rock elements to create ever-changing textures and melodies" simple and true but again, not very accurate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:05
prog is an abbreviation for progressive
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:06
Originally posted by unclemeat69 unclemeat69 wrote:

prog is an abbreviation for progressive


Hahhaha, that's a nice one. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:11
What your father used to listen to might sum it up nicely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:13
if prog really stood for progressive then this site would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog != progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly unusual music that much closer ;P

(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:19
there is no such thing as prog
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:33
Not what it used to be.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:51
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

if prog really stood for progressive then this site would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog != progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly unusual music that much closer ;P

(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P


I certainly agree with the lack of innovation, I also can't escape the feeling that most innovation and musical progress since at least the 80's was achieved outside of so-called prog.
There is, however, a noticeable change in sound, production and songwriting between the 60's and the 70's with longer, thoroughly-structured songs, more complex meters and rhythms etc. all things that were rarely/never done before, which might all very well be the reason for calling our beloved music prog in the first place. later after the initial developing phase (read:first wave british prog), other bands took the example of the previous bands and couldn't help sounding like the previous bands. and now a band is often not considered prog it they don't sound like a familiar band from the past, no matter how innovative and groundbreaking those later bands may be.
Apparently, some people don't recognise progressiveness if it bit them in the nose.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:54
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Not what it used to be.


Hahaha....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:02
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

if prog really stood for progressive then this site would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog != progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly unusual music that much closer ;P

(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P
You use the winking tongue way, way too much. And when did you become a PR!? I should start writing more reviews, I'm starting to feel left out...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:16

Progressive rock isn't a style. Prog rock is a searching. Most of instruments are rock-related instrumens, but other instruments are from differents folk styles (from all the countries). Harmony and rhythm aren't typical of rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:24
Rock that you wouldn't like nor understand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:25
Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

Rock that you wouldn't like nor understand.
 
It's not that people are unable to like or understand prog, it's that they won't "waste" time trying to discover a kind of music that's more complex than what they're used to.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 20:14
Originally posted by cynthiasmallet cynthiasmallet wrote:

I really don't see how liking prog is any measure of intelligence.
 
It's not necessarily a measure of intelligence so much as it is an indicator of intelligence. Musical intelligence isn't an oxymoron, or mythological, it's real.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2007 at 21:14
Prog is a the result of arranging the letters g, o, p and r together in a certain way.
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