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T.Rox
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Topic: Standard 'Olympic' Country Codes Posted: July 23 2007 at 08:44 |
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When it comes to identifying a country of origin that a band comes from where there is a shared band name it seems there is no real standard applied in PA. As an example you will find bands from France with either (FRA) or (FR) as a country identifier, or from Italy the code may be (ITA) or (IT)... My suggestion: PA should adopt the Standard 'Olympic' Country Codes for applying the country of origin as a standard, giving consistency of entry of information in PA. The list of codes can be found here:
I understand this is not a 'biggie' but consistency of entry of information leads to better understanding of what people are reading and does make things a little more 'professional'.
Anyway, a little something to think about in amongst all the other things.
Cheers,
T.Rox
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Easy Livin
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Posted: July 23 2007 at 11:05 | ||||||||||||||
One for Joolz!
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Joolz
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Posted: July 24 2007 at 09:48 | ||||||||||||||
Absolutely agree ... we should be consistent .... I'll have a look at it!
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:35 | ||||||||||||||
OK, I prepared a list
I shant change the entries due to the problems with the diacritic signs in my computer. The correct code of a country is below each group of bands. There are three groups that should be discussed. 1. Bands with the same names: AMAROK -- Prog Folk AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Should be ESP, POL *** AMON DάάL Krautrock AMON DάάL (UK) Krautrock -- United Kingdom Should be GER, GBR *** ANDROMEDA (SWEDEN) -- Progressive Metal ANDROMEDA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom Should be SWE, GBR *** ANOMALY -- Progressive Metal ANOMALY (USA) -- Progressive Metal -- United States Should be BRAINSTORM -- Jazz Rock/Fusion BRAINSTORM (AUS) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- Should be GER, AUS *** CARTOON -- RIO/Avant-Prog -- CARTOON (BR) -- Prog Related -- Should be CLEPSYDRA -- Neo Progressive CLEPSYDRA (IT) -- Italian Symphonic Prog -- Should be SUI, ITA *** DEJA-VU (JA) -- Symphonic Prog Japan DEJA-VU (NO) -- Heavy Prog -- Should be JPN, NOR *** DELIRIUM (ITA) -- Italian Symphonic Prog DELIRIUM (ME) -- Crossover Prog -- Should be ITA, MEX *** DRAMA (FR) -- Symphonic Prog DRAMA (UR) -- Neo Progressive -- Should be FRA, URU *** EDEN -- Prog Folk EDEN (FR) -- Progressive Electronic EDEN * -- Symphonic Prog -- Should be GER, FRA, CAN *** ERGO SUM (CHI) -- Prog Folk ERGO SUM (FR) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Should be CHI, FRA *** ET CETERA (CA) -- Eclectic Prog ETCETERA (DK) -- Symphonic Prog -- ??? GALADRIEL -- Neo Progressive GALADRIEL (AUS) -- Prog Folk -- Should be ESP, AUS *** GALAHAD (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- United Kingdom GALAHAD (GE) -- Prog Folk -- Should be GBR, GER *** LIFE -- Crossover Prog LIFE (GER) Krautrock -- Should be SWE, GER *** MIRAGE -- Italian Symphonic Prog MIRAGE (EN) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- United Kingdom MIRAGE (FRA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Should be ITA, GBR, FRA NAUTILUS -- Progressive Electronic NAUTILUS (SWI) -- Symphonic Prog -- Should be GER, SUI *** NOW -- Neo Progressive NOW (USA) -- Prog Related -- United States Should be OCTOPUS (CHI) -- Progressive Metal OCTOPUS (EN) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- United Kingdom OCTOPUS (GE) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- Should be CHI, GBR, GER *** PROVIDENCE -- Neo Progressive PROVIDENCE (US) -- Prog Folk -- Should be PYRAMID Krautrock PYRAMID -- Progressive Metal -- Should be GER, ESP *** TEMPEST -- Prog Folk -- TEMPEST (UK) -- Heavy Prog -- Should be TRESPASS (GE) -- Symphonic Prog TRESPASS (IS) -- Symphonic Prog -- Should be GER, ISR *** UTOPIA -- Eclectic Prog -- UTOPIA (GERMANY) Krautrock -- Should be VIRUS -- Progressive Metal VIRUS -- Heavy Prog -- Should be NOR, GER *** 2. Bands with the similar names: Here the difference is in a diacritic sign only. I think these bands also should bear the countries codes beside them. AGORA -- Progressive Metal AGORΐ (ITA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Should be MEX, ITA *** CAPHARNAUM -- Progressive Metal -- CAPHARNAάM -- Heavy Prog -- Should be RAGNARΦK -- Prog Folk RAGNAROK (NZ) -- Psychedelic/Space Rock -- Should be SWE, NZL 3. Bands without the counterpart but with the country marker (for what reason?):I suggest to delete the countries codes. ANIMA (AR) -- Symphonic Prog -- GRACE (EN) -- Neo Progressive -- INFINITY (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- United States JEREMY (USA) -- Crossover Prog -- United States MERLIN (GER) -- Symphonic Prog -- NIRVANA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom RELAYER (USA) -- Symphonic Prog -- TARKUS (BR) -- Symphonic Prog -- Last update: Edited by Fassbinder - October 12 2007 at 14:14 |
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:41 | ||||||||||||||
I suppose there are bands with the same or similar names that are not prog and thus are not in the archives. That's the case of NIRVANA for instance. |
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 14:44 | ||||||||||||||
BTW, how would you solve the case of IRON MAIDEN? We've got one IRON MAIDEN from UK and we're probably going to have another band with the same name from the same country (or do we have them already?).
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:37 | ||||||||||||||
If we have two bands with the same name from the same country, there should be another determinators (or how do you say it in English?).
For example, there are two Camels in PA, differentiated by the years of activity:
(these two entries should be updated too, I think...)
There is another example:
Edited by Fassbinder - September 10 2007 at 15:59 |
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:39 | ||||||||||||||
If both the name and the years of activity are the same, you may put a subgenre as a determinator...
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 15:41 | ||||||||||||||
Of course this is the case, there shouldn't be any doubt about it.
But still, I don't think we need it unless the other band (say, Nirvana of the USA) is added to PA...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 17:01 | ||||||||||||||
Superb work Fassbinder!
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:14 | ||||||||||||||
Also:
Ark (NO)
Ark (EN)
Now fixed!
EDIT: Both Ark share the same picture! Edited by Atkingani - September 10 2007 at 20:16 |
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:24 | ||||||||||||||
I've missed the Ark pair...
Thanks, Guigo!
By the way, is it possible to move this thread to the "Errors & Omissions" section?
I think it'll be more helpful there.
Thanks in advance.
Eugene
EDIT: Thanks again! Edited by Fassbinder - September 10 2007 at 20:41 |
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:41 | ||||||||||||||
Done!
BTW, I think we have to find a standard for the bands' names, some are all in capital letters and some (the majority) have only the initial as capital. Anyway, some bands like UK or IZZ, maybe should be displayed in all capitals.
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Guigo
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 20:52 | ||||||||||||||
Thanks! (already appeared in the edit of my previous post)
Yes, maybe. The differences exist now, but they are possible to be seen only in editing zone, not in the alphabet pages and bands/artists ones. Thus, how many of the site users know that the Armenian Prog-Folk band lead by Vahan Artsruni is called ARTSRUNI and not Artsruni? -- it is impossible to see from the mentioned pages (I found that simply by chance...) Somehow all the letters become upper-cased when appearing in alphabet lists...
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 10 2007 at 21:12 | ||||||||||||||
Yes, you're right, Mr. Errors & Omissions Repairer!
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Guigo
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:22 | ||||||||||||||
AGORA -- Progressive Metal
AGORΐ (ITA) -- Jazz Rock/Fusion -- Should be MEX, ITA Done
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:25 | ||||||||||||||
AMAROK -- Prog Folk AMAROK (POL) -- Crossover Prog -- Should be ESP, POL Done (Who?)
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:31 | ||||||||||||||
ANDROMEDA (SWEDEN) -- Progressive Metal ANDROMEDA (UK) -- Proto-Prog -- United Kingdom Should be SWE, GBR Done
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Atkingani
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Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:40 | ||||||||||||||
I did it as a test...
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Guigo
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Fassbinder
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Posted: September 11 2007 at 13:46 | ||||||||||||||
On the contrary, muito obrigado (as you like to say...)!
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