Forum Home Forum Home > Other music related lounges > Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Why Asia is prog?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedWhy Asia is prog?
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
madgo2 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 25 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 118 		Direct Link To This Post Topic: Why Asia is prog?
    Posted: February 27 2005 at 20:27
Is Asia considered prog because some of the members were in great past prog bands or do people consider the music of the band progressive?  I listened to several of their songs the other day and they reminded me in truth to have more in common with Eddie Money than prog.  That is not to say the songs were not good, just that they do not seem to really be playing music that is progressive.
He whom life can no longer surprise
Back to Top
Possessed View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 10 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 430 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2005 at 20:42
Asia is POP. nothing prog about them.
Back to Top
greenback View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: August 14 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:16
asia is pop prog. so is the fixx.
[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
Back to Top
Prog_Bassist View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 29 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:22
yeah, how come the fixx isnt in here?

I agree that asia is pop-prog, but I also f**king hate them at the same time.

Edited by Prog_Bassist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY
Back to Top
Sweetnighter View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 24 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1298 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:43
pop-prog? give me a break. what the hell does that mean?

they're pop.
I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
Back to Top
Bryan View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 01 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 3013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 01:04

Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

pop-prog? give me a break. what the hell does that mean?

they're pop.

Who says pop can't have prog elements?
Back to Top
Certif1ed View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 08 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 02:45
Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

pop-prog? give me a break. what the hell does that mean?

they're pop.

Who says pop can't have prog elements?

Like the Beatles, you mean...

Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 02:53

I cant recall hearing any Asia with prog elements. They are a pop group comprised of old prog musicians out to make some quick money. When you consider the complexity and subtlty of many songs written by the likes of Jon Wetton, Geoff Downes, Carl Palmer, Steve Howe etc, just think how easy, how effortless it must have been to write songs like 'Heat of the moment' or 'Dont Cry'. Any of these musicians could have written songs like that in minutes flat.

Their abilities were not being stretched as musicians or writers in Asia. They were, IMO quite a cynical band, and more a business project than any thing else. They wrote pop tunes knowing that they could reach the masses, but also knowing that their Roger Dean artwork and their prog backgrounds would get the prog crowd out too, at least until it became obvious how crap they really were.
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
richardh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 28029 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 04:20
Wildest Dreams is a prog track.(can't think of any others though by this band).
Back to Top
tuxon View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 21 2004
Location: plugged-in
Status: Offline
Points: 5502 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 04:41

Asia

1982
Title information | MP3 | Reviews

Asia - Asia CD album cover Track listing
1. Heat Of The Moment (3:54)
2. Only Time Will Tell (4:48)
3. Sole Survivor (4:51)
4. One Step Closer (4:18)
5. Time Again (4:48)
6. Wildest Dreams (5:11)
7. Without You (5:07)
8. Cutting It Fine (5:40)
9. Here Comes The Feeling (5:40)

Total Time: 44:17

Agreed it's not entirely progressive, but wildest dreams, Here comes the feeling, sole survivor, Only time will tell, well actually all of those songs have distict prog-sensibilities.

If you never listened to this album, than you might be missing out on something, I liked this album very much.
I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
Back to Top
Azrael2112 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 19 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 246 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:17
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

<TABLE style="BORDER-RIGHT: #a0a0a0 1px solid;
PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; BORDER-TOP: #a0a0a0 1px solid; PADDING-
LEFT: 10px; BACKGROUND: #f0f0f0; PADDING-BOTTOM: 10px; BORDER-
LEFT: #a0a0a0 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 10px; BORDER-BOTTOM:
#a0a0a0 1px solid" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%">
<T>
<TR>
<TD width="100%" colSpan=2 height=75><SPAN
=cls_TableMainTextContent>
<H1 style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 18px; MARGIN: 1px;
COLOR: #333333">Asia</H1>1982
<HR width="100%" color=#808080 noShade SIZE=1>
[IMG]alt="" http://www.progarchives.com/prog/Xpageitem_arrow.gif[/
IMG] Title information | Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?
cd_id=4337#mp3">[COLOR=#800080 size=3">MP3[/COLOR"> |
Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?
cd_id=4337#reviews">[COLOR=#800080 size=3">Reviews[/COLOR">
</SPAN></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top align=middle>[IMG]id=imgCover style="FILTER: progid:
DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Shadowcolor='#333333', Direction=135,
Strength=3; POSITIon: relative" alt="Asia - Asia CD album cover"
hspace=1 src="http://www.progarchives.com/
Progressive_rock_discography_includes/thumbnail.aspFileName= C:
\Inetpub\wwwroot\progarchives.com\progressive_rock_discograp hy_cov
ers\813\cover_257181412004.jpg&Size=150" width=150 vspace=1>

<!--
// Resize image to 200 if 200
/*
function resizeIf

    var img_obj = new Image;
    oImgCover = document.getElementById"imgCover"
    img_obj.src = oImgCover.src
    
    ifimg_objth >= 200)
        oImgCover.width = 175
    else
        oImgCover.width = img_obj.width
    oImgCover.style.display = 'block';
}

var img_obj = new Image();
oImgCover = document.getElementById("imgCover");
img_obj.src = oImgCover.src;
if(img_obj.width >= 200)
    oImgCover.width = 175
else
    oImgCover.width = img_obj.width
oImgCover.style.display = 'block';
window.onload = resizeIf;
*/
//-->

</TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="66%" bgColor=#f0f0f0><SPAN
=cls_TableMainTextContent>Track listing1. Heat Of The Moment
(3:54) 2. Only Time Will Tell (4:48) 3. Sole Survivor (4:51) 4. One Step
Closer (4:18) 5. Time Again (4:48) 6. Wildest Dreams (5:11) 7. Without
You (5:07) 8. Cutting It Fine (5:40) 9. Here Comes The Feeling (5:40)Total
Time: 44:17 </SPAN></TD></TR></T></TABLE>

Agreed it's not entirely progressive, but wildest dreams, Here comes
the feeling, sole survivor, Only time will tell, well actually all of those
songs have distict prog-sensibilities.


If you never listened to this album, than you might be missing out on
something, I liked this album very much.




I totally agree with you.

If you get past the horrid lyrics and big areana rock choruses, you actually
hear there is more going on in the music that you would hear at first
listen. Especially Steve Howe, It may be some of his best work.
Back to Top
lucas View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 06 2004
Location: France
Status: Offline
Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 10:49
The only connection of Asia with prog is the artwork of their covers.
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
Back to Top
sigod View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 17 2004
Location: London
Status: Offline
Points: 2779 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 11:01
The first Asia album is good but I have to agree with the sentiment here that there is very little progressive material present. Can't say much about the other albums as once I heard 'Alpha', I couldn't stomach to listen to them any more.

Shame really.
I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
Back to Top
greenback View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: August 14 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 3300 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:41
your problem is that you expect yes, elp, uk and king crimson elements in the music! it does not work this way!
[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
Back to Top
DallasBryan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 23 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3323 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:45
99.99999% of the alternative rock bands have
completely defective guitar sounds.

what a DB statement!
Back to Top
plodder View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 19 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 255 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:47
Pop-prog!!

Haha

/adds another to the list.
Back to Top
Vibrationbaby View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: February 13 2004
Status: Offline
Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:53
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

The only connection of Asia with prog is the artwork of their covers.
So Lucas does this mean that Asia ranks up there with Gentle Giant as one of the worst prog bands?
Back to Top
Possessed View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: July 10 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 430 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:53

I remember John Wetton singing one or two Asia songs to the prog crowd at Progfest 95

Yeesh!
Back to Top
Radioactive Toy View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: March 06 2004
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 953 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:54

Originally posted by madgo2 madgo2 wrote:

Is Asia considered prog because some of the members were in great past prog bands or do people consider the music of the band progressive?  I listened to several of their songs the other day and they reminded me in truth to have more in common with Eddie Money than prog.  That is not to say the songs were not good, just that they do not seem to really be playing music that is progressive.

why are you asking this question when you're having in absentia as your avatar.....

Reed's failed joke counter:
|||||
R.I.P. You could have reached infinity....
Back to Top
Joren View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 07 2004
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2005 at 13:03

Prog influenced pop music. It is pretty complex pop music... when you compare it to U2 or Rolling Stones. here's my review: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=4337

So, yes, I think they deserve to be here. They're almost the only popband form the eighties I can stand...



Edited by Joren
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.176 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.