Why Asia is prog?
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Topic: Why Asia is prog?
Posted By: madgo2
Subject: Why Asia is prog?
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 20:27
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Is Asia considered prog because some of the members were in great past prog bands or do people consider the music of the band progressive? I listened to several of their songs the other day and they reminded me in truth to have more in common with Eddie Money than prog. That is not to say the songs were not good, just that they do not seem to really be playing music that is progressive. ------------- He whom life can no longer surprise |
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 20:42
| Asia is POP. nothing prog about them. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:16
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asia is pop prog. so is the fixx. ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:22
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yeah, how come the fixx isnt in here?
I agree that asia is pop-prog, but I also f**king hate them at the same time.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: February 27 2005 at 22:43
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pop-prog? give me a break. what the hell does that mean? they're pop. ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 01:04
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Who says pop can't have prog elements? |
Sweetnighter wrote:Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 02:45
Like the Beatles, you mean... |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 02:53
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I cant recall hearing any Asia with prog elements. They are a pop group comprised of old prog musicians out to make some quick money. When you consider the complexity and subtlty of many songs written by the likes of Jon Wetton, Geoff Downes, Carl Palmer, Steve Howe etc, just think how easy, how effortless it must have been to write songs like 'Heat of the moment' or 'Dont Cry'. Any of these musicians could have written songs like that in minutes flat. Their abilities were not being stretched as musicians or writers in Asia. They were, IMO quite a cynical band, and more a business project than any thing else. They wrote pop tunes knowing that they could reach the masses, but also knowing that their Roger Dean artwork and their prog backgrounds would get the prog crowd out too, at least until it became obvious how crap they really were. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 04:20
| Wildest Dreams is a prog track.(can't think of any others though by this band). |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 04:41
Agreed it's not entirely progressive, but wildest dreams, Here comes the feeling, sole survivor, Only time will tell, well actually all of those songs have distict prog-sensibilities. If you never listened to this album, than you might be missing out on something, I liked this album very much. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
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Posted By: Azrael2112
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 08:17
I totally agree with you. If you get past the horrid lyrics and big areana rock choruses, you actually hear there is more going on in the music that you would hear at first listen. Especially Steve Howe, It may be some of his best work. ------------- http://www.flywithjet.com"> 
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 10:49
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The only connection of Asia with prog is the artwork of their covers. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 11:01
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The first Asia album is good but I have to agree with the sentiment
here that there is very little progressive material present. Can't say
much about the other albums as once I heard 'Alpha', I couldn't stomach
to listen to them any more. Shame really. ------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:41
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your problem is that you expect yes, elp, uk and king crimson elements in the music! it does not work this way! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:45
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99.99999% of the alternative rock bands have
completely defective guitar sounds. what a DB statement! |
Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:47
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Pop-prog!! Haha /adds another to the list. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:53
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Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:53
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I remember John Wetton singing one or two Asia songs to the prog crowd at Progfest 95 Yeesh! |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 12:54
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why are you asking this question when you're having in absentia as your avatar..... -------------  
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 13:03
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Prog influenced pop music. It is pretty complex pop music... when you compare it to U2 or Rolling Stones. here's my review: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=4337 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD. asp?cd_id=4337 So, yes, I think they deserve to be here. They're almost the only popband form the eighties I can stand... |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 13:43
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Asia's first album is actually pretty good if you can get past expectations of an 80 minute epic based on the lost writings of Tolkien. True, it paved the way for some truly dreadful 80s stadium rock, much of it emanating from Asia themselves, but it's a strong collection of commercially flavoured rock with some superb playing (particularly from Howe) as an added bonus. As such, it's tons better than the pap Genesis and Yes churned out for much of the 80s. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: madgo2
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:24
Maybe I should have posted it as "Asia is not prog and here is why" I prefered to phrase the topic as I did however...As for Porcupine Tree they are my favorite of the more recent prog bands. ------------- He whom life can no longer surprise |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 21:27
every band who sounds like europe - final countdown gets my vote! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: February 28 2005 at 23:09
I always considered Asia to be a band that combined 80s new wave with the epic scale of Prog. The result was rather scary: arena rock. I still love them though, but when I listen to them, I'm not at all expecting evolving musical themes, pretentious lyrics and overblown solos. I'm winding down!  ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |