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Proletariat 
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 Topic: Nu Prog? WTF
Posted: April 05 2007 at 19:40 |
I randomly stumbled upon this wikipedia arctical. I am confused. The bands are ok but "Nu Prog" 
tell me am i crazy or is this stupid
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cookieacquired
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 20:10 |
its an odd term but I'm not sure of your sanity to be wikipediaing this
how did you stumble upon it?
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Figglesnout
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 20:14 |
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oddd. judging by the bands listed, i'd add a few more--that is, if i agreed with the definition and etcat all...
it is interesting though. wonder who submitted it.
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I'm a reasonable man, get off my case
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Cynic
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 20:21 |
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It seems like one of those things where people have to learn that over-classifying doesn't make you any smarter. That just seems like a pointless genre.
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Proletariat
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 20:23 |
 king volta wrote:
oddd. judging by the bands listed, i'd add a few more--that is, if i agreed with the definition and etcat all...
it is interesting though. wonder who submitted it. |
I wanted to see the wikipedia defonition of prog (because i usually find wiki-defonitions hilarious) and it was listed as a subgenre.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 21:49 |
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Cool! New bands to check out on iTunes. Amplifier is decent. I am listening to them on MySpace.
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 22:08 |
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I have always though Coheed and Cambria belongs in the Prog-Related family. I find the Mars Volta to be much more Prog. Mew I have herd of from a friend of mine, they, apparently, are quite good. Radiohead's Kid A is pretty good.
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Prog... It's good.
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darkmatter
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 23:53 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
Cool! New bands to check out on iTunes. Amplifier is decent. I am listening to them on MySpace.
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Try Oceansize too!
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 09:48 |
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Though not an actual genre, the descriptor makes sense.
The bands listed are modern progressive rock bands, and are not metal, and have nothing at all to do with the neo-prog sound.
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laplace
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 09:50 |
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yes well progressive rock has obviously become too inclusive and broad a term
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Trademark
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 10:30 |
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Seems perfectly legit to me. Tey've grouped together most of the new stuff I don't like and given it a name. Now I've got something to bash.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 10:31 |
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I don't agree with this at all ... they make it seem like any new prog is automatically related to the indie/alternative scene.
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progismylife
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 10:34 |
^^I agree. And some of those bands I don't consider prog at all (Coheed and Cambria  being one of them)
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:30 |
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I quite like that article, and the term 'New Prog' (I'm not so keen on 'Nu' instead of 'New', though).
When I first heard the music of Pure Reason Revolution I was searching in my own mind for a term that could be used to describe their music, which is not the same as 'traditional' Progressive or Neo Progressive Rock but is certainly not mainstream pop or pop-rock and has some elements of Progressive Rock. I thought to myself that 'New Prog' would be a good term, only to discover that it was already being used to describe Pure Reason Revolution, Muse, Coheed & Cambria and the like.
I can happily live with the term 'New Prog', but 'Nu Prog' just looks naff to me: sort of the antithesis of the supposed relative sophistication of the music, if you catch my drift.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 13:45 |
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^ the list of bands in the wikipedia does not make much sense ... some of the bands are prog, some are not. I don't like this sort of generalisation ... it would be better to at least separate the "complex alternative rock" from the real prog.
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magnus
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Posted: April 06 2007 at 20:21 |
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makes some sense... but like Mike said, I'm a bit skeptical about that indie/alternative relation.......
but why the hell are TMV listed there? "indie bands who incorporate elements from progressive rock"... TMV don't just have "elements" from prog, they are as prog as prog gets!
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Posted: April 07 2007 at 02:30 |
Cynic wrote:
It seems like one of those things where people have to learn that over-classifying doesn't make you any smarter. That just seems like a pointless genre.
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There is absolutely no disadvantage to having a lot of genres, it allows people to identify music they like and find similar artists much more easily. That said I welcome the 'nu-prog' tag as I don't like those bands and it's a slander much like 'nu-metal' looool.
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Posted: April 07 2007 at 02:51 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 07 2007 at 04:27 |
^ says a member of two genre teams who also supports "hard prog" and "eclectic prog" ... 
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coleio
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Posted: April 07 2007 at 04:54 |
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I don't like it that much really. I think they should come and visit PA and just realise that those bands they listed have already been classified and so on.
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