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    Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:14
I play piano, i know all of the scales, can play with my eyes closed and all I am just really experienced so to say...I know it like I know 2+2=4
 
Anyways, I have been trying to learn guitar naturally, and have figured out many things about it, but can anyone here recommend taking lessons or any tips about the construction of the guitar and how it applies to piano or vice versa?
 
I also play flute and know it very well.
 
Thanks!  I am just having alot of trouble with the idea of strings and frets and everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:41
I suggest you take some lessons to get started. It's quite difficult to learn to play the guitar simply "by doing".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:45
Obviously the best thing to do is invest in a guitar with a very thin neck so you can easily play as fast as possible.  Forget chords and structure.  The faster you shred, the better player you are.  Also, the more expensive your rig, the more talent you obviously possess.  Wink

on second thought, I learned to play guitar by ear by learning chords and scales and learning to jam along with 12-bar blues.  Obviously if you know theory you can apply it to simple structures on the guitar and eventually be able to play more and more complex things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2006 at 19:36
man i really just want to learn to solo with my eyes closed and all!  guess practice makes perfect!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2006 at 01:02
Start simple - use tabs - figure out how to read them (they are very simple string and fret number diagrams). Find some easy stuff - lots of sites that have tab - and try to play them. Use songs you know well, cause tab gives absolutely no idea of structure, but if you know the songs you can probably figure out what happens when and where.
And- ignore the shredder comments above.
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:18
If u want to know severel chords in guitar its easy, but there a lot of scales and mand shapes of everything...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2006 at 04:09
Start with the pentatonic scale - learn it in as many positions as you can - the same way you learn piano scales, ie playing it over and over until it's second nature.


It won't take long before you're soloing like a 1970s guitar God - you cannot play a wrong note if you use the pentatonic scale!
    

The big difference between the guitar and a keyboard is that the keyboard has the sharps and flats clearly marked with the black and white keys - frets are all the semitones presented in a "flattened out" way.

I took pretty much the same approach when I got my first guitar - I could already play piano to a very high standard, and didn't want to go through all that learning malarky all over again with the guitar.

The first song I learned to play on the guitar was "The Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel - it's got pretty much every chord you'll ever need in it. I learned it by playing a tape recording of it over and over and over until I had nailed it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 05:28
start with scales.
 
then to finding out the octaves and same notes.
 
then chords (the hardest part)
 
haha i know i suck. its such a bassist view of guitar.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 06:34
It's very simple. Start off by learning chords, become a chord macheine. Then learn scales and you're set.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2006 at 05:39
i tried learning by reading a website: http://guitar.about.com/
its probably a bit basic if you allready play piano .
i found it works ok for me but i just need to practice more often.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2006 at 09:08
Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

I play piano, i know all of the scales, can play with my eyes closed and all I am just really experienced so to say...I know it like I know 2+2=4
 
Anyways, I have been trying to learn guitar naturally, and have figured out many things about it, but can anyone here recommend taking lessons or any tips about the construction of the guitar and how it applies to piano or vice versa?
 
I also play flute and know it very well.
 
Thanks!  I am just having alot of trouble with the idea of strings and frets and everything.



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1. get this book a.s.a.p.  if you cannot afford to buy it, get it from your local library.
you will not regret it.... trust me Wink


http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Handbook-Ralph-Denyer/dp/0679742751/sr=1-1/qid=1157547877/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7399183-7285631?ie=UTF8&s=books

2. get a good quality electric to learn on. why ? they're easier on your fingers and hands.

3. don't use a capo if you really want to learn to play a guitar... well, at least NOT until you've learned how to play barre chords.

4. learn chords first... THEN solo fingering.

i go into guitar shops and i am surprized to see how many young/new players don't have any clue about chords...they just want to play "lightning-fast" fingered solos.

5. learn to play BOTH barre chords AND "open" chords
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 06 2006 at 09:29
Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

how do you play guitar?
 
With my hands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 00:46
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I suggest you take some lessons to get started. It's quite difficult to learn to play the guitar simply "by doing".

That was my approach to it and I turned out just fine (although my dad did show me a few chords when I was just starting out everything else I learned came quite naturally over time).Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 02:40
^ that may or may not be true - but there are a few things that you learn much faster with professional guidance, and without that guidance there's a good chance that you pick up some bad habits which are very difficult to "untrain" later. Examples: how to hold the pick, alternate picking, vibrato, which fingers to use for chords, etc.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 04:50
I recently bought a DVD out of curiosity more than anything else - I thought I might have a good laugh.

It's called "50 Killer Metal Licks" and is produced by LickLibrary - see why I thought it might be funny?

Instead, it turned out to be really good - the tutor is Danny Gill, a student of Joe Satriani, and really, you might just as well be having lessons from Joe himself!

The screen is thoughtfully laid out so that you can see both his fretting hand - and his picking hand in a smaller window, so you can clearly see how he holds the pick and the pick movements.

Danny starts at base level with the pentatonic scale, and works up to a moderately advanced level incorporating major and minor scales, including the ubiquitous sweep-picking techniques, two-handed playing and some fun at the end.

I went from "could just about sweep-pick" to proficient in 6 weeks (I only get 30 minutes practice time a day if I'm lucky, and most days I don't practice), but my favourite "trick" is intervallic leaps and octaves, which I've already incorporated into a couple of solos.

Most of it is simply developing a "memory muscle" so your fingers get used to moving in certain ways at speed.


This DVD is great for soloing, but for songs, nothing beats listening to your favourites and playing along by ear.

Or even better, fingers...
    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 05:34
^ I used to be a subscriber to LickLibrary two years ago - I really liked the jam tracks. But I have to say that GuitarPort is better in that regard ... and they also have many good lessons (hundreds of them, to be precise). The most amazing feature of GuitarPort is that they have jam tracks with vocals - and some of the jam tracks are even remixes of the original tapes!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 06:00
about effects: delay/echo + ebow + wha wha to have a deep mantra-like sound.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:18
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ I used to be a subscriber to LickLibrary two years ago - I really liked the jam tracks. But I have to say that GuitarPort is better in that regard ... and they also have many good lessons (hundreds of them, to be precise). The most amazing feature of GuitarPort is that they have jam tracks with vocals - and some of the jam tracks are even remixes of the original tapes!

    
Yeah - I like GuitarPort too - I also bought a TonePort, which provides bass and vocal amps as well as guitar amps. It's like a little studio, and plugs straight into any DAW that uses ASIO - as they pretty much all do these days.

It's good to play to a jam track, but even better when the music's your own
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:48
Well, I've got nothing to sugest (can't play guitar myelf), but for what it's worth my brother self taught himself at twelve, w/ some Rage Against the Machine videos, and now he is a very accompished musician at the age of 18. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:52
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Originally posted by The Lost Chord The Lost Chord wrote:

how do you play guitar?
 
With my hands.
 
By listening to hours of Deep Purple (or anything with Ritchie Blackmore) and watching DVD´s..
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