how do you play guitar?
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Topic: how do you play guitar?
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Subject: how do you play guitar?
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:14
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I play piano, i know all of the scales, can play with my eyes closed and all I am just really experienced so to say...I know it like I know 2+2=4
Anyways, I have been trying to learn guitar naturally, and have figured out many things about it, but can anyone here recommend taking lessons or any tips about the construction of the guitar and how it applies to piano or vice versa?
I also play flute and know it very well.
Thanks! I am just having alot of trouble with the idea of strings and frets and everything. -------------  "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:41
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I suggest you take some lessons to get started. It's quite difficult to learn to play the guitar simply "by doing".
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 18:45
Obviously the best thing to do is invest in a guitar with a very thin neck so you can easily play as fast as possible. Forget chords and structure. The faster you shred, the better player you are. Also, the more expensive your rig, the more talent you obviously possess.  on second thought, I learned to play guitar by ear by learning chords and scales and learning to jam along with 12-bar blues. Obviously if you know theory you can apply it to simple structures on the guitar and eventually be able to play more and more complex things. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 19:36
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man i really just want to learn to solo with my eyes closed and all! guess practice makes perfect! ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: cobb
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 01:02
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Start simple - use tabs - figure out how to read them (they are very simple string and fret number diagrams). Find some easy stuff - lots of sites that have tab - and try to play them. Use songs you know well, cause tab gives absolutely no idea of structure, but if you know the songs you can probably figure out what happens when and where.
And- ignore the shredder comments above. |
Posted By: proger
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 09:18
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If u want to know severel chords in guitar its easy, but there a lot of scales and mand shapes of everything... ------------- ...live for tomorrow... |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 29 2006 at 04:09
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Start with the pentatonic scale - learn it in as many positions as you can - the same way you learn piano scales, ie playing it over and over until it's second nature.
It won't take long before you're soloing like a 1970s guitar God - you cannot play a wrong note if you use the pentatonic scale! The big difference between the guitar and a keyboard is that the keyboard has the sharps and flats clearly marked with the black and white keys - frets are all the semitones presented in a "flattened out" way. I took pretty much the same approach when I got my first guitar - I could already play piano to a very high standard, and didn't want to go through all that learning malarky all over again with the guitar. The first song I learned to play on the guitar was "The Boxer" by Simon and Garfunkel - it's got pretty much every chord you'll ever need in it. I learned it by playing a tape recording of it over and over and over until I had nailed it. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: gods of marble
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 05:28
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start with scales.
then to finding out the octaves and same notes.
then chords (the hardest part)
haha i know i suck. its such a bassist view of guitar.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: August 30 2006 at 06:34
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It's very simple. Start off by learning chords, become a chord macheine. Then learn scales and you're set. ------------- 
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Posted By: the man machine
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 05:39
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i tried learning by reading a website: http://guitar.about.com/
its probably a bit basic if you allready play piano . i found it works ok for me but i just need to practice more often. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 09:08
LC... suggestions: 1. get this book a.s.a.p. if you cannot afford to buy it, get it from your local library. you will not regret it.... trust me http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Handbook-Ralph-Denyer/dp/0679742751/sr=1-1/qid=1157547877/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7399183-7285631?ie=UTF8&s=books - http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Handbook-Ralph-Denyer/dp/0679742751/sr=1-1/qid=1157547877/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-7399183-7285631?ie=UTF8&s=books 2. get a good quality electric to learn on. why ? they're easier on your fingers and hands. 3. don't use a capo if you really want to learn to play a guitar... well, at least NOT until you've learned how to play barre chords. 4. learn chords first... THEN solo fingering. i go into guitar shops and i am surprized to see how many young/new players don't have any clue about chords...they just want to play "lightning-fast" fingered solos. 5. learn to play BOTH barre chords AND "open" chords . |
The Lost Chord wrote:Posted By: Bob Greece
Date Posted: September 06 2006 at 09:29
With my hands. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/BobGreece/?chartstyle=basicrt10"> 
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 00:46
That was my approach to it and I turned out just fine (although my dad did show me a few chords when I was just starting out everything else I learned came quite naturally over time).  ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 02:40
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^ that may or may not be true - but there are a few things that you learn much faster with professional guidance, and without that guidance there's a good chance that you pick up some bad habits which are very difficult to "untrain" later. Examples: how to hold the pick, alternate picking, vibrato, which fingers to use for chords, etc.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 04:50
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I recently bought a DVD out of curiosity more than anything else - I thought I might have a good laugh.
It's called "50 Killer Metal Licks" and is produced by LickLibrary - see why I thought it might be funny? Instead, it turned out to be really good - the tutor is Danny Gill, a student of Joe Satriani, and really, you might just as well be having lessons from Joe himself! The screen is thoughtfully laid out so that you can see both his fretting hand - and his picking hand in a smaller window, so you can clearly see how he holds the pick and the pick movements. Danny starts at base level with the pentatonic scale, and works up to a moderately advanced level incorporating major and minor scales, including the ubiquitous sweep-picking techniques, two-handed playing and some fun at the end. I went from "could just about sweep-pick" to proficient in 6 weeks (I only get 30 minutes practice time a day if I'm lucky, and most days I don't practice), but my favourite "trick" is intervallic leaps and octaves, which I've already incorporated into a couple of solos. Most of it is simply developing a "memory muscle" so your fingers get used to moving in certain ways at speed. This DVD is great for soloing, but for songs, nothing beats listening to your favourites and playing along by ear. Or even better, fingers... ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 05:34
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^ I used to be a subscriber to LickLibrary two years ago - I really liked the jam tracks. But I have to say that GuitarPort is better in that regard ... and they also have many good lessons (hundreds of them, to be precise). The most amazing feature of GuitarPort is that they have jam tracks with vocals - and some of the jam tracks are even remixes of the original tapes! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 06:00
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about effects: delay/echo + ebow + wha wha to have a deep mantra-like sound. ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:18
Yeah - I like GuitarPort too - I also bought a TonePort, which provides bass and vocal amps as well as guitar amps. It's like a little studio, and plugs straight into any DAW that uses ASIO - as they pretty much all do these days. It's good to play to a jam track, but even better when the music's your own  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:48
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Well, I've got nothing to sugest (can't play guitar myelf), but for what it's worth my brother self taught himself at twelve, w/ some Rage Against the Machine videos, and now he is a very accompished musician at the age of 18. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 07 2006 at 16:52
By listening to hours of Deep Purple (or anything with Ritchie Blackmore) and watching DVD´s..
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 16:19
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Ehm, ok... unless you already know everything since this thread has been up for a good while now:
1. Forget the piano when you're playing guitar. It's completely different. With the guitar you can easily play chords that you can't play on the piano with two hands. 2. The same theory applies to guitar as well. We have chords with 3 notes, the scales are easilyl found if you know how it goes, c is c, d# is d#... So you take the guitar, and go through the neck looking for all C s, and then you play the scales from it, finding exactly where the notes from the scales are. 3. With guitar the scale patterns for fingers are always the same with the exeption of the higher strings that are half a step lower, just to make it possible to press chords. 4. So you now know the scales, you realise you can form any chord you want with the knowledge you have. Nevertheless it's advisable to learn some by heart as you go. Play some easy, a bit silly even, songds and learn basic majors and minors, at least 2 ways of playing them, evenmore maybe, depending on what kind of music you're playing. 5. Playing solos doesn't differ a lot from piano. You know the scales, and if you're really creative, you might even try to change them when a chord is changed. 6. For tricks: shredding without any idea what you're doing is pointless and sounds horrible. Pay more attention into staying in the scale, if not intentionally straying from it a bit on occations, like when playing in C it's common to go from G to A with quickly playing the G# there in between, but not letting it play for long. If you want to play quick, practise changing strings with both hands, but the basic quick bursts are easy on just one string and barely noticable. To this it's easier when you know how to play the scale on 1 string, 2 strings, 3 strings etc... there are loads of places where you can find the C and more ways to go through the scale to it. Just so that I wouldn't lose my paycheck with this, I'll give you one lesson. Play through the chords you know and after each play one type of scale through and then take the second chord and so on and so on. Example. C and c-major scale, G and g-major scale, D and d-major scale. Same thing with minors. And remember. There can be even 20 ways of playing C which all sound a tad different... |
Posted By: GabbleRatchet
Date Posted: October 19 2006 at 12:04
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Lots of good advice from my fellow forum colleagues. Just a few words of encouragement really - quite a few people move successfully from piano to guitar. I'd treat them as different animals though. There are lots of different ways to learn. Some mode devotees practice religiously. Other players feel the urge to set fire to a mode if they see one! Their idea of 'practice' is a jam. Have a good think about the kind of guitarist you'd like to be and how it fits in with your piano 'n' flute. Flatpicker? Fingerstyle guru? There are some great albums made of just flute, piano and guitar, nothing else. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: October 26 2006 at 06:07
| I would think it is best to start with a simple scale i.e., Minor Penatonic, and get that down as quickly as possible along with some other scales, so when you get better you are able to come up with more complicated things because of the scales you learned. I would also recommend looking up tabs on songs you like that do not sound too complicated. |