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Thatfabulousalien 
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 Topic: John Zorn's Alchemists
Posted: December 04 2016 at 23:50 |
A thread for all that love his music.
His extremely diverse career has put out some very extraordinary masterpieces:
But there's way too much to list for an opening post, but you get the idea.
His music in some projects are very proggy, some bands are grindcore jazz, Klezma, surf rock, CLASSICAL, you name it! 
Edited by Thatfabulousalien - December 04 2016 at 23:53
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Posted: December 05 2016 at 11:09 |
My favourites are:
Masada - Live in Sevilla 2000 Filmworks XIII: Invitation to a Suicide The Dreamers O'o
Pretty much in the soft side of his music. 
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Posted: December 05 2016 at 12:03 |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 08 2016 at 18:39 |
I don't know how many people here like classical music but Zorn's work; Chimeras is a masterpiece I highly recommend 
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Posted: December 08 2016 at 19:14 |
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Electric Masada - At The Mountains of Madness is damn awesome. One of the greatest live albums IMO.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 08 2016 at 22:21 |
 Mascodagama wrote:
Electric Masada - At The Mountains of Madness is damn awesome. One of the greatest live albums IMO. |
I completely agree, I love that live album. Also the famous new York concerts with Naked City (easy to find on YouTube) are incredible performances!!
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Posted: December 09 2016 at 10:05 |
Another fan here. I prefer his more out/noisy/difficult recordings (like Naked City, Painkiller, Simulacrum, etc), but stuff like A Vision In Blakelight, The Goddess, Transmigration Of The Spirit... is quite wondrous.
Hard to keep up with everything he releases though. :p
Edited by Man With Hat - December 09 2016 at 10:06
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Posted: December 12 2016 at 13:48 |
 This is the only album of his I'm familiar with. Playful trad jazz interpretations (though they verge on avant jazz in places) of well-known Christmas tunes, plus a couple of self-composed tracks. Mostly instrumental, great fun. Recommended.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 17:07 |
IAO is amazing!!!
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 17:10 |
My favorite Zorn albums are the following (In no specific order)
Radio
Chimeras
Mount Analogue
Simulacrum
The String Quartets
Astronome IAO
The Alchemist
Songs Without Words
Hen To Pan
Fragments, Prayers and Interjections
Grand Guignol
At the Mountains of Madness
Spillane
Angelus Novus
Guts of a Virgin
The Gift
Hermetic Organ (2 or 3, they're all amazing though) Classic Guide to Strategy Anything from the original Masada band
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 17:38 |
^ Thanks for the list. I know only fragments of his output, there's much here to explore 
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 17:41 |
Mascodagama wrote:
^ Thanks for the list. I know only fragments of his output, there's much here to explore |
Cheers!
I'm a bigger fan of contemporary classical music than any other genre, so that stuff is definitely among my favorite in Zorn's discography. Moonchild and the mystical series is also very close to the kind of aesthetics I love but obviously as a Zornian (Zorn fanatic), I have a very broad range in my musical tastes.
His recent organ trio group Simulacrum is certainly up the prog metal alley 
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 18:19 |
Mascodagama wrote:
Electric Masada - At The Mountains of Madness is damn awesome. One of the greatest live albums IMO. |
Whenever I want to listen to something more berserk and heavy than most metal bands, this is the one I reach for, I always get a silly grin whenever it gets insanely crunchy.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 18:54 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
Electric Masada - At The Mountains of Madness is damn awesome. One of the greatest live albums IMO. |
Whenever I want to listen to something more berserk and heavy than most metal bands, this is the one I reach for, I always get a silly grin whenever it gets insanely crunchy. |
I enjoy the hell out of that one too, the playing is some of the tightest I've heard but at the same time it's so loose and free 
Also, I think that version of Metaltov may have eclipsed the original Naked City version 
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 19:01 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
Electric Masada - At The Mountains of Madness is damn awesome. One of the greatest live albums IMO. |
Whenever I want to listen to something more berserk and heavy than most metal bands, this is the one I reach for, I always get a silly grin whenever it gets insanely crunchy. |
Yeah, this along with a few other things e.g. certain Flying Luttenbachers stuff, satisfies my "avant but brutal" itch very nicely. My wife has pretty adventurous musical tastes (grew up on thrash and enjoys Magma, KC, etc) but this falls firmly into the realm of sh*t she will not tolerate.
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 19:05 |
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
^ Thanks for the list. I know only fragments of his output, there's much here to explore |
Cheers!
I'm a bigger fan of contemporary classical music than any other genre, so that stuff is definitely among my favorite in Zorn's discography. Moonchild and the mystical series is also very close to the kind of aesthetics I love but obviously as a Zornian (Zorn fanatic), I have a very broad range in my musical tastes.
His recent organ trio group Simulacrum is certainly up the prog metal alley |
I wonder if you've run across the Australian avant-garde composer Antony Pateras? Really enjoy his stuff. The Simulacrum album with Kenny Wolleson added on vibes, The Painted Bird, is one of my fave albums this year and has sparked a resurgence of my interest in what Zorn has been doing.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 19:11 |
Mascodagama wrote:
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
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I wonder if you've run across the Australian avant-garde composer Antony Pateras? Really enjoy his stuff.
The Simulacrum album with Kenny Wolleson added on vibes, The Painted Bird, is one of my fave albums this year and has sparked a resurgence of my interest in what Zorn has been doing. |
I surprisingly haven't  but I'll check him out
The Aussie composer I'm most personally familiar with is probably Carl Vine but the majority of my favorite classical music came out of the Darmstadt school + Webern.
Btw, is there a thread for classical music discussion here?
Edited by Thatfabulousalien - December 19 2016 at 19:12
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Posted: December 19 2016 at 19:47 |
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
Mascodagama wrote:
Thatfabulousalien wrote:
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I wonder if you've run across the Australian avant-garde composer Antony Pateras? Really enjoy his stuff.
The Simulacrum album with Kenny Wolleson added on vibes, The Painted Bird, is one of my fave albums this year and has sparked a resurgence of my interest in what Zorn has been doing. |
I surprisingly haven't but I'll check him out
The Aussie composer I'm most personally familiar with is probably Carl Vine but the majority of my favorite classical music came out of the Darmstadt school + Webern.
Btw, is there a thread for classical music discussion here?
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Pateras is fairly obscure, I think. Which doesn't indicate any high level of knowledge on my part, I should add, I just randomly happened on his stuff somehow. There is a thread about the symphony on the General Music Discussion board which resurfaces from time to time, started by a poster Presdoug who is quite knowledgeable. But other than that not a vast amount of classical discussion that I've noticed.
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Posted: December 23 2016 at 10:05 |
The Bearded Bard wrote:
This is the only album of his I'm familiar with. Playful trad jazz interpretations (though they verge on avant jazz in places) of well-known Christmas tunes, plus a couple of self-composed tracks. Mostly instrumental, great fun. Recommended. |
This is an odd one to be the only album of his that you know.  but I do like to listen to it around this time of theyear. |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 02 2017 at 23:13 |
Templars in sacred blood is another masterpiece, I can't believe I forgot to mention it!!! It's another absolute favorite 
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